1989-19649-Minutes for Meeting May 16,1989 Recorded 8/7/1989S9~19649
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DESCHUTES COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
SURFACE MINING HEARING MINUTES
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Call to Order
Chair Prante called the meeting to order at 6:02 PM. Commissioner
Throop and Commissioner Maudlin were also present. Staff members
present were Craig Smith, Planning Director, Karen Green, Legal
Counsel, Chuck McGraw, Planning staff, and Sue Stoneman, recorder.
Public Hearing on Acceptance of Thompson Site (Site 540) to
Inventory of Mineral and Aggregate Resources
Chair Prante outlined the purpose and procedure of the hearings.
The first hearing is to consider whether or not the Thompson site
should be included in the resource inventory for aggregate and
mineral resources. She noted that the Planning Commission had
recommended that this site not be zoned SM. She called for
declarations of conflicts or ex parte contact by the board. There
were none.
Chuck McGraw gave the staff report for site 540. The site is
legally described as Township 18, Range 12, Section 24, taxlots
1500 and 1501. The site contains an estimated 340,000 cubic yards
of good quality red and black cinders. The site is owned by Kenyan
Thompson. Staff had determined that Mr. Thompson had met the
requirements to have the site placed on the inventory. Staff
recommended that the site be included on the inventory for
consideration of SM zoning.
Chair Prante called for any challenges and there were none. She
then called for public testimony regarding placing the site on the
inventory. Rick Ergenbright and Pat Rogers both stated they were
opposed to mining this site. Both had come to testify on the Rose
site.
Public Hearing on Zoning Thompson Site (Site 540) for Surface
Mining
Chuck McGraw gave the staff report. Staff had identified two
conflicting Goal 5 resources, fish and wildlife areas and habitats,
and outstanding scenic views. Further conflicts identified were
rural residential uses. Staff had recommended not to allow SM
zoning because of the high availability of cinders in the area and
the low value in relation to the conflicting uses.
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Chair Prante called for proponent's testimony. There was none.
She then called for opposing testimony. There was none. She then
closed the public hearing.
MOTION: Commissioner Maudlin moved that they accept the
recommendation of the Planning Commission and not zone
the Thompson site. Commissioner Throop seconded.
VOTE: Unanimous approval.
Public Hearing on Rose Site (Site 392)
Chair Prante called for declarations of conflict or ex parte
contact. Commissioner Maudlin stated that he had spoken with Sally
Wegner in the office, but there was no conflict or ex parte
contact. There were no challenges.
Chuck McGraw gave the staff report for site 392. The site's legal
description is Township 18, Range 12, Section 23, taxlot 300. The
resource type is quarry rock, aggregate and fill. There is 7.5
cubic yards of fill. They propose removing the basalt and crushing
it for road aggregate. Staff had identified two conflicting Goal
5 resources: land needed and desireable for open space and fish
and wildlife areas and habitats. Further conflicting uses are
rural residential uses in the area. Based upon the ESEE analysis,
staff recommended SM zoning for this site. He noted a $.20 per
cubic yard savings on hauling costs if this site is mined for fill
material. There was a discrepancy with the amount of quarry rock.
Estimates range from 59,000 to 10,000,000 cubic yards. Staff
recommended that the fill material be protected and quarry rock be
preserved but that blasting on site crushing should not be allowed.
He read into the record the proposed conditions of mining the site.
Chair Prante called for advisory testimony. Duane Clark, Planning
Comission member, came forward. He stated that the Planning
Commission had talked about retaining four feet of dirt and filling
in the mined area with rock to be covered with at least four feet
of dirt. He encouraged the board to zone portions of sites for
mining, contrary to the memo Karen Green had issued. He stated
that the Planning Commission recommendation to do so had been based
on the information provided by the applicant. He felt there were
additional adverse impacts to zoning the entire site SM.
Chair Prante then called for testimony in favor of zoning the site
SM. Bob Lovlien, attorney representing Rose and Associates, came
forward. He stated they had earlier requested that they consider
the fill material and the quarry rock as separate issues, and they
are making that request again at this time. He noted the site
contains two Goal 5 resources, aggregate, which is the crushable
basalt, and 7.5 million cubic yards of fill material. They had
testified that the county was no longer selling fill material, but
since then they have resumed dirt sales out of Knott pit. Based
on current rates of use, there is about two more years' supply at
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Knott pit. Based on the fact that the Knott pit resource will be
gone in two years and the proximity of this resource to the Bend
urban area, he stated that this was a significant resource. With
regard to the aggregate, he stated they could provide at least
25,000 cubic yards of aggregate, but they feel it is substantially
more than 59,000 cubic yards at the site. They have test results
showing that the resource meets ODOT specifications. With respect
to wildlife, he noted that deer are in the area, but this is not
a winter deer range or any other significant deer area. The deer
are already impacted by Knott pit and they have further addressed
this issue by allowing only a small area of extraction at any one
time. They will transfer irrigation water rights to this property
and they are looking at installing an 8-inch water main from Avion
to control dust. Rural residential conflict raises the issue of
transportation, which has been addressed by limiting access to the
north end of the site. This traffic will be traffic that was
previously using Knott pit across the road, so no more traffic will
be generated in the area as a result. He stated that they agree
with the staff's and planning commission's recommendation with
respect to extraction of the select fill material at the site,
however, whether the county has the authority to do this under the
ESEE analysis is a challenge they would preserve. Backfilling the
excavations with waste rock would be acceptable to the applicant
as well. Equipment impacts to open the site will be limited to a
dozer, loader, and backhoe. The did not agree with the planning
commission's recommendation on aggregate. They feel there was a
misinterpretation of Goal 5 as it relates to the conflicting uses.
They would like to have them address each of the two issues
separately. The applicant does feel that the basalt rim should be
preserved.
Chair Prante then called for opposing testimony.
Ed Sullivan, 101 SW Main, Portland, came forward. Mr. Sullivan is
the attorney representing the the Southeast Property Owners
Association. They oppose the site for either aggreage or fill use
under SM zoning. He noted that the Planning Commission had
recommended not allowing SM zoning for the aggregate resource. He
noted that a controversy had developed last fall over the lack of
quality and quantity information for aggregate on the site. They
request that this site be removed from the inventory for those
reasons. He stated they had previously thought they had an
understanding with the county to that affect, and he noted that he
had listened to tapes of earlier proceedings. He stated that the
applicant has bought no new information before the board since that
time. He then outlined what testimony and expert witnesses they
would be providing, and stated they would provide information about
alternative sites that have not yet been listed on the inventory.
He noted that there exists a fault line through the site and they
will address its implications. He stated that no site should be
considered by the county for placement on the inventory or for SM
zoning unless accurate quantity and quality data is provided. They
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believe the figures provided for total aggregate need is overstated
and that transportation costs as stated have been too high. This
information comes from the industry rather than an objective third
party. They plan to complete a study on this and submit it to them
in about one week. They also feel that mineral and aggregate
resources on federal lands should be included on the inventory.
He stated that processing and extraction are proposed at the bottom
of a bowl which is surrounded by homes so noise cannot be
mitigated. They are concerned about the affects on rural
residential and agricultural uses, conflicts regarding noise and
dust and effects on property values and interference with the
extention of the urban growth boundary and a possible taking claim.
He stated that they would present evidence of one large house deal
that fell through because of the possibility of this mining
occuring.
Louis Scott, 13855 SW Arlo Road, Beaverton, came forward. He is
a regustered engineering geologist and geotechnical engineer with
over 40 years' experience. He reviewed the geological features of
the Rose site using an aerial photograph. The site lies in a
valley with houses on the bluffs overlooking the site. The
material is sedimentary water deposited material through the valley
that reaches through the area. There are other sites which contain
this same general type of material which was deposited by a large
river at one point. On March 27, he did a site study. He referred
to two studies done by Century West Engineering, one in 1977 and
one in 1980. He noted that the 3/19/77 report from Century West
estimates a 7,000,000 cubic yards. He stated that the estimate is
based on intuition, they only know about material to a depth of 15
feet. Seven test holes were dug with backhoes, and of those only
two went 15 feet without encountering rock. The 1980 report refers
to a siesmic study which proves a depth of 30 to 40 feet. He
disagrees with that estimate because the skill or experience of the
person analyzing the data not documented. He stated that this test
is not as accurate as test pits. If they have to prove the amount
of resource, they can only use the test pit data reliably. Using
that data, they can only prove 1,000,000 cubic yards of material.
If they slope the site, it will be less. He stated that there are
three other sites west of Knott pit and 40 acres east of Knott pit
and the area near Arnold Market and Rickard Road for the same types
of material. They took traffic counts on Rickard Road and had a
study done by an acoustical engineer to determine the ambient noise
level which is extremely low in this area. That data was submitted
for the record. That report indicated that processing would be
considerably in excess of 10 dba. He stated that they could only
get 218,000 cubic yards out of a five acre site with the sides
sloped as requested. He submitted a letter from the Forest Service
indicating that they would make available to the county their sand,
gravel, and aggregate resources, so there would be no dire need or
sole source component. He indicated that the testing performed on
the quarry rock are from only two samples from the face of the
bluff, which he did not feel was an adequate sampling to base the
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quantity estimates on. He stated that this is Newberry lava, which
has a poor reputation for quality. He felt that the two small face
samples were not adequate to make a determination about the quality
of the resource. He noted that blasting would be necessary to
extract the rock. There were some questions regarding the other
sites. They are mostly privately owned parcels not on the
inventory, and the demo dump site. It was noted that these sites
are not mentioned because they have less conflict impacts, but just
to show there are other sites. He noted that the dirt on this site
is easier to work than most.
Rick Ergenbright came forward. He discussed the scenic beauty,
wildlife, clean air and water, and other quality of life factors
which bring people to Bend. These factors are Goal 5 resources.
He did not think that rock and dirt should be allowed to outweigh
the other resources which exist at this site. His homesite
directly overlooks the Rose site. He stated that he would supply
copies of publications and photographs showing the beauty of the
surrounding area and photos taken from the Rose site. He stated
that on page one of the staf f report there is no mention of the
wildlife conflict at the site. He stated that the site visit had
been made on a day when temperatures were below zero and so no
wildlife was present at that time. He stated that deer frequent
the site as well as other wildlife including endangered species.
He has observed two coyotes and a pup in a den on the Rose site.
He felt that the additional travel costs to truck in material from
another site was worth it.
Franklin Gist, 60386 Arnold Market Loop, came forward. He
presented a petition signed by about sixty owners or property all
around the Rose site who are opposed to mining it. He also
mentioned being opposed to blasting at the site. He also
questioned the quantity estimates provided in the Century West
report.
Pat Rogers, 60500 Arnold Market Road, came forward. They have
lived across from the proposed mining site since 1972. She talked
about how they love the land and what grows on the property and the
animals that live there. Their hobbies revolve around their land
and they are outside a great deal of the time as a result. They
were given assurances in the past that a dirt mine would not be
allowed due to the incompatibility in that area, that the site was
only a potential resource. She stated that the use would have
impacts on the roads, dust, and noise, and the quality of
livability in the area for over fifty years if allowed, and would
ruin the land forever.
William Thomason, 60660 Bobcat Road, came forward. He showed the
location of his parcel on the map. He stated that their family
has their place for sale, and listed it almost a year ago.
Recently they had a serious offer that was supposed to close on
June 10, but fell through when the prospective buyer found out that
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this action was pending and saw how it would impact this property.
He stated that he is against the proposed mining because it will
devalue surrounding properties, possibly affect wells in the area,
increase truck traffic and adversely affect wildlife. He regularly
sees from 30 to 50 deer on the property.
Joan Hale, 60635 Bobcat Road, stated that she has 20 acres within
one half mile of the proposed site and another 14 acre site to the
west. She has lived on the property since before it was zoned SMR
and has developed her property into a ranch. She stated that her
property assessment has increased 40%, but if the pit goes in the
valuation will go down at least that much. She is unaware of any
instance where property values held where there was a mine. She
stated that if the county would tax everyone a small amount they
would find all kinds of areas. She also stated that the area east
of town has many old seabeds containing resource, and there is no
need to put these mines in suburban areas. She mentioned that the
hospital had lost two prospective doctors coming to the area
because they did not want to live near this pit. She did not feel
it was right that a few men should make millions of dollars at the
expense of the surrounding property owners. She felt the property
would make good suburban ranchettes.
Sally Wagner, 60675 Bobcat Road, came forward. She showed the
location of their home on the map. The live above the Rose site.
She mentioned a sound study that had been done, and noted that due
to the prevailing winds, they will not be able to meet DEQ noise
standards at their home. She stated that llama breeding programs
can be upset by noise and that the dust that will coat the pastures
can kill animals that injest large amounts. She stated that Al
Driver at the Public Works Department had told her that there is
about 250,000 cubic yards of dirt remaining at Knott pit and that
supply is expected to last another three years.
Duane Manweller, 21395 Rickard Road, showed the location of his
property on the map. The Rose site is adjacent to his property,
as is Knott pit. He stated that he would not have moved there if
they had known of all this. They were not told of the Rose site
potential, and they almost didn't move there because of the dump,
but they were told that the dump would be made into a park in five
years. He said he had been told that the two rock samples taken
for testing had actually come from his site. He stated that they
hear a lot of noise from Knott landfill at their house which would
be further compounded by the proposed use.
Bob Marcott, 60789 Rickard Road, came forward and described the
location of his property. Their raise champion Chesapeake Bay
retrievers and have lots of animals. He stated his concern about
the dust harming their animals.
Michael Jeffries, 21079 Woodhaven, came forward. He stated that
his wife is a doctor. He stated that they are buying property in
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the area and that they moved here because of the quality of life,
the weather, and the people. They have to live near the hospital
due to his wife's profession. They have had a difficult time
finding property, and if this goes through, they will not buy this
parcel. This use will compound dust, noise, and traffic. He
stated that their house will be 3,000 square feet and very
valuable.
Patsy Schueller, 22232 Rickard Road, stated that she lives about
one half mile from the site. She stated they bought their property
about one year ago and were unaware of the proposed mine. They
oppose it.
Lester Alford, 60376 Arnold Market Road, stated that he moved here
about two years ago and is retired from the Air Force. He stated
that he chose to live here rather than his hometown in Central
Florida because of the development problems they have had here,
which is what Central Oregon is now facing. They had faced a
question of growth versus quality of life, which is what is being
faced here. He felt that we should be prepared to pay the
transportation costs for this material as the price for being able
to live here. When they purchased their property two years ago,
they called the Planning Department and he was assured that there
were no zoning changes contemplated in that area, and was told that
this area was zoned agricultural and nothing was mentioned about
rock mining.
Patricia Gainsforth, 327 NW Greenwood, Bend, testified about the
impact on land values. She is a real estate broker, and had people
looking at some property in the area. When they were informed of
this, they withdrew their earnest money offer.
Bob Archer, 22175 Rickard Road, stated that he is probably the
farthest from Knott landfill as anyone who has testified, but when
the wind is going east he can hear everything at Knott landfill,
so this is not just a noise problem for those nearby. On Sundays
they can hear the model airplanes flown near the landfill. He
bought his property two years ago and was told at that time there
were no problems in the area. He has a view of the mountains from
his property, and on certain days he can see clouds of dust and the
house gets very dirty. His house is two miles from the landfill.
Linda Entlecoffer, 60361 Horse Butte Road, stated that they
purchased their home two and a half years ago and have five acres
with a great view. Even though she lives a good distance from the
landfill, she deals with the constant truck traffic which has a
great impact because their area is so quiet. She noted they are
seeing a great deal of desireable growth in the area that will be
affected. She felt it was worth hauling dirt. She felt it was
important to protect the natural scenic beauty of the area.
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Chair Prante called for further testimony. There was none. Mr.
Scott asked to clarify some previous testimony, correcting the
statement that the two rock samples had come from the Manweiller
property. That had actually come from the Rose site.
Ed Sullivan came foward to summarize their testimony. He stated
that this is another application to mine this property but with no
more documentation than existed in 1985 when the county turned it
back for lack of adequate information. He felt they should resist
the approach of separate consideration for dirt and aggregate. He
stated that the site cannot be designated for aggregate use or fill
dirt use because the applicant did nothing to give the county any
idea for a reasonable amount of resource at the site. He stated
that they could not compete with Knott pit or other sources with
the conditions as proposed by the Planning Commission. He noted
that all known significant fill material sites must appear in the
inventory, but the two that they identified as alternative sites
do not appear in the inventory. He noted that even though there
would be no crusher at the site, there will be trucks and equipment
creating noise that will carry a great distance in that area. He
stated they would present live testimony Thursday on mining noise
and violations of the 10 decibel rule and showing that this site
cannot meet the 10 decibel rule. He indicated that Thomason's had
lost about $100,000 profit through the lost sale of a house because
of the status of this site. He concluded that their testimony
indicates without question there is substantial, severe, and
irreversible unmitigable conflicts from this site. He stated that
there was insufficient information upon which to predicate an
aggregate decision and even if the guesses are correct, they can't
get the material without blasting. He stated there was
insufficient data on the quantity of the fill material, and that
the applicant had failed to meet the burden of proof.
Chair Prante then called for rebuttal by proponents. Bob Lovlien
asked to have a couple of days to review the new material that had
been submitted. It was noted that the hearing would remain open
for five additional working days to allow additional written
testimony to be submitted. He reiterated their request to have
the two resources considered separately. Commissioner Throop asked
about rebuttal to the 15 foot testimony. Mr. Lovlien responded
that there is a 90 foot resource right across the street, and so
it is safe to assume this site is at least 50 feet deep, and that
is confirmed by the siesmographic testing done at the site.
Commissioner Throop asked for some rebuttal on the estimates on the
aggregate material. Mr. Lovlien responded that they did establish
where the samples had been taken from and that the samples met ODOT
standards. He noted that there had been testimony by Joel Smith
on how to calculate total volume. In a report dated May 10, 1983,
the resource was estimated at 59,800 cubic yards on a 200' x 200'
quarry site. With regard to the CWE seismographic tests on 91
acres, they are confident that the 7.5 million cubic yard estimate
is accurate on the fill material. He noted that sloping will
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reduce that by 20% to 25% at the most. He noted that a backhoe and
trucks would be the only equipment at the site, and if they can't
meet DEQ standards for noise, they won't be allowed to operate.
Under opponent's rebuttal, Rick Ergenbright stated that the wind
blows six months of the year from the west/southwest and in the
spring and summer it blows from the east/northeast. From Knott
pit there are very few people raising animals in the direction of
the wind but if this pit goes in they will definitely be affected.
Louis Scott came foward. He stated that in order to accurately
identify quantity, they would have to conduct a systematic testing
program including drilling holes to the planned 40 foot depth
spaced 20 feet apart. They should be core drilled with samples
taken at various depths. Instead, he stated they took two samples
from the face of the rock and from that they estimated length,
width, and depth of the entire area. With regard to projecting
depth based on the depth of Knott pit across the road, he stated
that this was not a valid conclusion, because that depth may or may
not extend to this area. He stated that based on his experience
and training, he concludes that more testing is necessary.
Commissioner Throop asked about seismic tests. Mr. Scott responded
that he thought this was a poor report because it did not give
explanations and give details. The testing is done by creating a
noise and computing refraction of the sound. If it is not
accompanied by control tests they could get misleading results.
Ed Sullivan stated that they were unaware that Knott pit had
suspended dirt sales before the last hearing, so the alternative
sites had not been proposed until now. They found these sites by
consulting a DOGAMI map, and that map indicated lots of areas with
fill dirt on them, however, those areas are not on the inventory.
Pat Thomas came foward. She stated that she had been told by Bud
Rose that their land had a lot of fill dirt and they should get
into selling it.
There was some discussion about placing additional sites on the
inventory at this time.
Adjournment
Chair Prante noted that written testimony could be submitted until
5:00 PM on May 23rd. They will announce their decision on this
hearing for June 7, 1989, at 10:00 AM.
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Being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 9:10 PM.
S UTES COUNTY BO OF COMMISSIONERS
is BB ~towG~PKJrante, Chair
Tom Tliroog; Commissioner
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