1990-36801-Minutes for Meeting November 06,1990 Recorded 12/7/19901Os - 1407
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` ` November 6, 1990
Ch d r Thraxp called the meeting to order at 9:10 a.m. Board
members in attendance were Dick Maudlin, Tom Throop and Lois
Bristow Prante. Also present were Rick Isham, County Legal; George
Read, Planning Director; Paul Blikstad, Planner; Kevin Smith,
Planner; Mike Maier, County Administrator; and Dave Peterson, Data
Processing Manager.
1. DECISION ON PP&L APPEAL
Before the Board was a decision on the appeal of the Hearings
Officer's approval of a conditional use requested for a
transmission line in southeast Bend by Pacific Power and
Light. Chair Throop reminded the audience that no testimony
or public comments would be taken at this meeting but that
questions might be addressed to members of the audience by the
Board.
Commissioner Throop said the question that Paul Speck raised
at the public hearing on behalf of Helen and Stosh Thompson
about whether or not a plan amendment was required in
conjunction with the application was an issue he wanted to
pursue. He said the comprehensive plan language concerning
this 177 acre site prescribed the uses which were appropriate
for the site, and Mr. Speck asserted that the application was
not valid until a plan amendment was done. At the public
hearing, Mr. Van Vactor, attorney on behalf of the Lewis',
talked about looking at alternate corridors, but Commissioner
Throop felt that unless a plan amendment was required, he did
not believe that issue could be looked at. He said if a plan
amendment were not required, he didn't see the grounds to look
at alternate corridors or to deny the application. If a plan
amendment were required, then he felt they could consider
other corridors to determine which was the best.
Commissioner Prante felt the issue of who would make a profit
on this was irrelevant. She felt the issue was the need to
provide power service to a rapidly urbanizing area. She had
the utmost respect for Stosh Thompson and his commitment to
preserving wildlife, however she felt, in this particular
case, the Crudens were impacted the most. She said wildlife
did not react to power poles and the of front on their view the
way people did. She felt that it would have been difficult
for PP&L to have planned farther ahead than they did due to
the growth surge in the last three years. The needs of the
community had to be balanced with the impact on individuals,
and the needs of the expanding community could cause some
power shortages without the new lines.
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Commissioner maudlin said the site visit the previous day had
answered a great number of his questions, and that he had
reread the information in the record.
Rick Isham suggested the Board state into the record their
observations made during the site visit which would influence
their decision in this matter so that the parties would know
the basis on which the decision was being made. He said this
would complete the record since the parties had agreed not to
comment further on the site visit observations.
Commissioner Prante that the site visit reemphasized the
devastation of the Awbrey Hall fire. She was made aware of
the impact on the Cruden property in a very stark way. She
felt if they moved the corridor outside of the urban growth
boundary, the impact would be significantly greater. She did
not see how the existing line impacted the Lewis' view. She
expressed the hope that the Forest Service would select the
far west alternative.
Commissioner Throop said that the site visit didn't change his
view of the area very much because he knew the area well. He
said from the east, he noticed their wasn't much impact on
dwellings and private property from Highway 97 until you were
within one-quarter mile of the river. He felt 75 feet from
the Cruden's property was pretty close. The site visit gave
him a better idea of how naked the area would be in five years
when the existing trees were either taken out or fell on their
own and how exposed the line would be on Bend's southwest
boundary.
Commissioner Maudlin said it appeared there would not be, to
any great extent, a parcelization of the property. He felt
the Lewis' home faced to the northwest and when you looked out
the windows, you didn't see the proposed, westerly power line.
He said the area where the line would cross the river would
not be skylined in any way. The only concern he had was what
the view would be from the Cruden property looking out their
front windows at the river, because there would be a pole by
the river at that site. He felt that was the best place for
the pole to be even if it did have a negative impact on the
property owners. He wished that it did not impact this site
as much as it appeared it would, but he felt PP&L had made
every effort to minimize the visual impact for the whole
route.
Commissioner Throop said that the language on this 177 acres
in the comprehensive plan appeared to require a plan
amendment, specifically when it said on Page 10 was that "to
carry out the purposes and intent of the plan, the westerly
177 acres shall be designated as an area of special interest
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and no further parcelization shall be permitted therein. The
uses permitted shall be (1) those existing and (2) wildlife
management." He asked Rick Isham whether a comprehensive plan
amendment was required in order for this to be a valid
application? Commissioner Prante also asked how the existing
power line on the property affected the situation.
Rick Isham said he was going to regress a little to answer
their questions. He said the provisions of the comprehensive
plan would control the decisions the Board would make under
any implementing ordinance. So the meaning of the words in
the comprehensive plan were usually given their plain meaning,
and where they might be subject to Board interpretation, a
decision made by the Board would be given some weight. A
court would always interpret those works and provisions, with
deference to the Board's decision. He said Mr. Bock had
submitted a short memo with respect to one of the plan
policies to the areas of special interest. In this memo, Mr.
Bock stated that power line use did not appear to be one of
uses contemplated in policy #2. The specific language on the
site ends with, "the uses permitted shall be those existing
and wildlife management." He said he could not answer the
question of whether an existing power line was a use, since
that was a matter of interpretation for the Board. He
believed that when the general policies were written, the
anticipated uses were developments and land divisions. The
question of law for the Board to decide was whether or not
the last paragraph contemplated that kind of use. If it did
not contemplate the kind of use for which this application was
being made, then a plan amendment would be required. If it
did contemplate this kind of use, then the plan amendment
would not be required, and the Board would continue with the
process under the conditional use.
Commissioner Throop said there was an existing distribution
line on the concerned property, but that what was being
proposed was a major transmission facility.
Rick Isham said the second question the Board would need to
answer was whether the use was still different even if power
lines were contemplated in the compensation plan language.
He said the first question was whether power lines were
contemplated in the comprehensive plan under the term "use
permitted." If the answer was no, then the Board would go to
the comprehensive plan. If the answer was yes, then the Board
would ask the second question of whether the power line which
was currently located there was the same as the use that was
being proposed. If yes, then the Board would sign the
decision. If no, then you're back to some amendment of the
plan.
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Commissioner Prante asked if the issues would be before the
Board if the power line were to be placed outside of the urban
growth boundary (UGB). Rick Isham said that outside the UGB
in the RR-10 it would require a site plan review. He did not
believe that the term "community uses" could be limited to
community sewers and water systems because they were buried
in the road and wouldn't normally require a site plan when
done in the right of way. He felt "community uses" was a more
expansive term, and therefore, even in an RR-10 zone there
would be a site plan review. He said most of the RR-10 zone
was on an existing power line right of way with existing
service, but he didn't think there was anything in existence
on the Cruden property.
Commissioner Prante said that the County had allowed the
development, and therefore the County had the responsibility
to enable the services to be there to support the development.
Rick Isham said there was more language in the comprehensive
plan regarding this 177 acres than there was for whole
sections of Deschutes County. It was very unique and unusual
to find that much discussion regarding a parcel, and you could
conclude from this unusual treatment that there was intent to
directly manage this site through a comprehensive plan policy.
The issue for the Board was to interpret that provision.
Commissioner Throop said he wouldn't knowingly violate the
comprehensive plan to achieve the end described by
Commissioner Prante. He agreed that the public facilities
needed to be ahead of development, but they had to be approved
in conformity and in conjunction with the comprehensive plan.
He said again that a small existing power distribution line
was not the same as a major transmission line. He felt it
would be a knowing violation of the comprehensive land use
plan to approve the application without a plan amendment. He
didn't see any course of action but to deny the application
and ask the parties to come forward and address the
comprehensive land use plan.
Commissioner Maudlin said the plan for this 177 acres may have
been extensive, but it was incomplete because it didn't
discuss sewer, water and power lines. He pointed out that
every word in the comprehensive plan could not be defined, and
anything that was not completely defined could not be
permitted. He said there was an existing power lines in the
proposed area, and there were similar power lines running
through residential neighborhoods within the city limits of
Bend. He said there were several wildlife management areas
in Oregon with power lines and transmission lines running
across them.
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Commissioner Throop said the comprehensive plan was written
envisioning that this 177 acres would be set aside, and there
wouldn't be sewer lines or power lines.
Rick Isham asked whether anyone on the planning staff had
reviewed the resource documents from which this plan was
developed to see if there was any guidance given. George Read
said he had not been able to find Exhibit A.
Commissioner Throop recessed the meeting to allow time for
staff to find Exhibit A.
Chair Throop reconvened the meeting, and Paul Blikstad
distributed copies of Exhibit A to the Board. Stosh Thompson
also gave the Board some documents which he felt were also
part of Exhibit A.
Rick Isham felt that the Exhibit A, which had been distributed
to the Board by Paul Blikstad, was the one referred to in the
plan and was, therefore, part of the plan and the record. He
said it appeared to be a listing of various species that would
be preserved on the site and was entitled "Wildlife of the
Thompson Wildlife Sanctuary Deschutes County Principle Target
Species." He said it did not deal with any background
development for the plan policies. George Read said he did
not believe that the information submitted by Stosh Thompson
was part of the exhibit since the context of reference to
Exhibit A referred to wildlife that existed on the property.
Commissioner Maudlin said there appeared to be new telephone
lines in the area. Stosh Thompson said they were new because
they were replacing existing poles which had been burned in
the fire.
MAUDLIN: I feel that the impacts on the property in question
have been addressed in the best possible manner, not
perfectly, but in the best manner possible, and I
would move that the hearings officer's decision be
upheld and the line most westerly designated or a
compromise there in between 4A and 4B, and I'm
talking about the two most westerly lines, be the
line site so designated.
PRANTE: Second.
Commissioner Prante asked if the Board had any jurisdiction
over the lines which crossed Forest Service land.
Commissioner Maudlin said he put that condition in the motion
because he felt that was where the line should go because it
would have the least amount of impact.
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Commissioner Throop said he thought the Forest Services would
give deference to the Board's recommendation.
Commissioner Prante said she would also strongly recommend the
most westerly route.
Rick Isham said there was a joint management agreement with
the Forest Service where they are required to take into
consideration and explain why they would not follow the
Board's decision which would give the County party status in
any decision that the Forest Service would make. However, the
Federal Government could make an independent decision and may
not be bound by what the County did.
Commissioner Prante said she would like to recommend to the
Forest Service that the most westerly line be used, but she
wanted the decision to be separate.
Commissioner Maudlin said it was the intent of his motion to
condition the approval on use of line 4A or 4B or a compromise
between the two because he did not wish to place the line in
any other location.
Commissioner Prante asked if the Board passed the motion
indicating it was only valid if one of the two westerly lines
were used, and the Forest Service would not use one of those
two line, then would the Board's decision to uphold the
hearings officer's decision be invalid? Commissioner Maudlin
said that was his intention.
Commissioner Throop said he thought the motion was in
violation of the comprehensive plan and he didn't support it.
PRANTE: I would move to amend that we support the hearings
officer's decision and strongly recommend to the
Forest Service that the westerly boundary or route
be utilized.
MAUDLIN: I will second.
Rick Isham said the Board did need to address the F2 zone even
though the Federal Government's preeminent authority may take
precedent over the Board's decision. He said Deschutes County
had taken the position that it could zone federal lands, and
he felt the Board had to make a decision not just a
recommendation.
Commissioner Prante asked if the Forest Service decided to use
the easterly boundary, which the Board did not recommend,
would that invalidate the Board's decision to uphold the
hearings officer's decision? Was one dependent on the other?
Rick Isham said no.
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2.
Commissioner Throop ask if the Board could condition the
approval to be invalid if the line did not follow the course
that Commissioner Maudlin addressed in his motion? Rick Isham
said yes.
Commissioner Maudlin withdrew his second on Commissioner
Prante's amendment and, therefore, the amendment failed for
lack of a second. He said the reason his motion included the
most westerly designated route or a compromise therein between
4A and 4B was because there might need to be some movement
because of archeological or other situations.
Mark Heidecke, consultant for PP&L, said the most westerly
route in the environmental assessment for the Forest Service
was 4B, the next route was 4A, and both had the low crossing
in the northwesterly direction across the river rather than
the higher crossing which went directly north and south.
Alternative 3A went directly north to the angle point and 3B
went diagonally over to the Midstate line.
The question was called for on Commissioner Maudlin's motion.
VOTE: PRANTE: YES
THROOP: NO
MAUDLIN: YES
George Read said there were a couple of issues left to be
resolved. One was the question of whether site plan review
was required and the second that the hearings officer had not
addressed the landscape management issue, and he felt it
should be clarified. He said the staff recommendation was
that a site plan be required and that the landscape management
review occur concurrent with the site plan.
Commissioner Maudlin said that the attorney for PP&L had
indicated that a site plan was not a problem for them. The
Board agreed that Rick Isham should conform the decision to
include site plan review with concurrent landscape management
review.
PURCHASE OF COMPUTER EQUIPMENT
Before the Board was a request to go ahead with the purchase
of a new computer system. The Board, Mike Maier and Dave
Peterson had met last week to discuss the option on the
purchase of new computer equipment. Since then, Dave Peterson
had been able to negotiate a lower lease/purchase price and
a reduction in the interest rate. The prices quoted were
assuming no involvement by 9-1-1. Mike Maier said the
previous first year figure was $130,000 over the operating
capital costs and $153,000 for the next four years. With the
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