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WORK SESSION MINUTES
DESCHUTES COUNTY BOARD OF CON X§§. WR „�, ,_ 2:
July 1, 1991`` ' `` �
Chairman Maudlin called the meeting to order at 10 a.m. Board
members in attendance were Dick Maudlin, Tom Throop, Nancy Pope
Schlangen. Also present were: Bruce White, Assistant Legal
Counsel; Brad Chalfant, Property Management Specialist; Frank
Moore, Director of Mental Health; Florence Torrigino, Health
Services Administrator; Julie Dotson, Mental Health Services;
Dianna Pickett, Health Department; Karen Green, Director of
Community Development Department; Dave Leslie, Community
Development Department Planner; and Larry Rice, Director of Public
Works.
1. REOPENED PUBLIC HEARING AND DECISION WHETHER OR NOT TO REZONE
COUNTY SITE 541 (KMB ENTERPRISES) FROM FLOOD PLAIN TO SURFACE
MINING AND TO AMEND THE COUNTY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FROM
AGRICULTURE TO SURFACE MINING.
Before the Board was the reopening of a public hearing
concerning a proposed surface mining designation for property
owned by KMB Enterprises (site # 541). Dave Leslie provided
the staff report. Staff recommendation was that the Board not
rezone the site for surface mining since the noise report did
not clearly evaluate all aspects of a mining operation that
would occur at this site. He also stated that there were some
questions about the amount of noise and reduction of noise
that would be needed to meet DEQ standards.
Commissioner Tom Throop asked whether there were any
conservation easement public access requirements along Squaw
Creek. Dave Leslie responded that there was a conservation
easement on both sides of the creek from the high water mark,
landward 10 feet, and that strip included public access.
Upon opening the public hearing, Chairman Maudlin stated that
this hearing had been scheduled only for a decision, but
because other information had been received, the hearing was
being reopened to allow this information to be disclosed. He
stated that anyone else who wished to add further information
could do so at this time.
Commissioner Schlangen was asked to disclose her contact with
Fish & Wildlife. Commissioner Schlangen stated that she
contacted Fish and Wildlife because of her concern that there
was a lack of a plan being presented for fish and wildlife.
Norm Behrens of Fish and Wildlife had told her that a plan
could benefit the wildlife habitat. The ponds, if they were
constructed properly, could enhance fish life ,an if
vegetation in the area is correctly planted, could be 'j
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deer and other animals. Mr. Behrens also recommended that
cattle grazing not be allowed. The site in question was in
the flood plain, and the Oregon Department of Fish and
Wildlife felt that some of the vegetation would help hold back
damage that could occur during a flood. Commissioner
Schlangen disclosed that this was the information she received
from Mr. Behrens and that Fish and Wildlife indicated they
would be glad to work with Mr. Cyrus on a plan. Commissioner
Schlangen stated that she also had one contact with Mr. Cyrus,
but that all she had told him was she had talked with Mr.
Behrens, that the hearing would be reopened, and that he could
provide testimony.
Commissioner Throop asked for the context of the contact with
Mr. Cyrus. Commissioner Schlangen stated that Mr. Cyrus
called to see if they could talk, and she informed him that
she could only talk about process and the process was that she
had contacted Fish and Wildlife and that the hearing would be
reopened today at 10 a.m.
Max Merrill, attorney representing KMB Enterprises, testified
that the issue of noise had just recently arisen and that he
had not had a chance to do a complete study prior to the
original hearing. He stated that the engineer who wrote the
report was present at the hearing and that he had taken some
additional readings to present to the Board.
Commissioner Throop asked whether noise was even a standard
issue with surface mine hearings, and Bruce White stated that
it was an issue. Mr. Merrill stated that when the staff
report came out at the time of the original hearing, there
were no issues raised about the noise levels. Those concerns
came out next to the last staff report and that was the first
time he was aware that noise levels were an issue.
Commissioner Throop asked if there was a state statute or rule
that required operation of this kind to meet certain noise
standards. He also questioned if it was a part of state law or
DOGAMI deliberation.
Dave Leslie stated that he did not believe it was part of
DOGAMI deliberations but that state law required any new
industrial site meet certain noise standards. There always
has been existing law that was potentially enforceable by
surrounding home owners.
Mr. Merrill stated that the noise issue would be dealt with
when they actually made site plan application. If the zone
change was not approved, then the noise factor would not be
applicable.
Commissioner Throop asked if the noise issue was normally
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dealt with at the time the inventory and zone change decisions
were made or if the issue was normally dealt with at site plan
review.
Dave Leslie said it was difficult to make a decision on a zone
change if there was an uncertainty about meeting the noise
standards. Historically, it has been done both ways on a
site -by -site basis. There have been cases where the issue was
dealt with at site plan review. In those instances, there was
no guarantee that a site which had been zoned for surface
mining could operate. Dave Leslie felt it was better for the
applicant and the County to analyze these issues before a
decision to rezone was made.
Chairman Maudlin said that during the original testimony on
site 541 and the final decision, there was no mention of any
noise level. This was brought to the Board after the fact.
August 10, 1989, was the original hearing, and October 11,
1989, was the decision. The noise level factor was not
addressed at these times. The noise level issue came out when
the request went to LUBA.
Dave Leslie affirmed that this was the case. Also, an
additional factor is that subsequent to the Board's original
decision, the platting of the Rim at Aspen Lake Subdivision
occurred which raised the issue of noise to a higher level of
concern. Another factor is that the DEQ has been reducing
their role in doing noise work and the County has been gaining
expertise. The County is now in the position to provide
greater technical information than in 1989.
Bruce White stated that one of the reasons the Board had
decided to reopen the hearing was because of the change of
circumstances regarding the platting of the Rim at Aspen Lakes
Subdivision and with the potential of houses closer to the
site.
Karen Green raised a procedural issue. She stated that the
original hearing was open to any and all issues by Board
choice. When the Board elected to reopen the hearing for
today, it was limited to allowing Commissioner Schlangen to
put on the record what her conference had been with Fish and
Wildlife and for people who wished to comment and respond to
that testimony to do so but not to reopen it in its entirety.
Ms. Green stated that her concern was that the Community
Development Department would have to go back and reevaluate
the testimony received today if new noise evidence from the
sound engineer were introduced. That would then need to be
reevaluated and brought back to the Board. Therefore, this
could be an endless process. The end of July is the deadline
for returning the Coats and Cyrus sites to LCDC for
acknowledgement. Ms. Green recommended that the Board limit
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the testimony to responding specifically to what Commissioner
Schlangen put on the record.
Chairman Maudlin asked if anyone present wished to speak
regarding fish and wildlife information. Bruce White asked
Commissioner Schlangen if there was any discussion about
present fish and wildlife values in her discussion with Mr.
Behrens. Commissioner Schlangen stated the conversation was
regarding how to enhance current resources with vegetation.
Tygh Redfield of 68860 Goodrich Road, Sisters, Oregon stated
that due to the nature of the development, there would be no
shortage of any additional wildlife ponds because of the
amount of water that is being developed for the overall
project. The golf course will have many ponds and there are
many irrigation ponds in that area. He stated that there is
no shortage of wildlife enhancement in the area.
Bonnie Albert, 68923 Bradley Road, Sisters, Oregon stated she
was familiar with the area being proposed for surface mining
as she had irrigated this area for ten years. She is also
familiar with the top soil in this proposed area. Her
neighbor, Opal Thompson, adjoins the development and owns 360
acres and has lived there 55 years. She also remembers the
entire valley flooded. In 1980, the area flooded in this
manner. Ms. Albert stated that flooding does not always stay
within the creek. She submitted various pictures showing the
high water as well as pictures of the area at the present time
showing test holes dug by Mr. Cyrus.
Chairman Maudlin called to Ms. Albert's attention the fact
that the discussion was about the fish and wildlife
recommendations and that her comments needed to be specific to
that guideline.
Ms. Albert stated that her interpretation of the fish and
wildlife was the proposed ponds. Because of the manner in
which she has seen water come through the valley, she feels
that a major flood could occur every seven years. Her concern
is with the ponds and the possible flooding every seven years
plus a 16 percent chance of a flood every year. She felt that
the fish could be damaged as the ponds picked up aggregate
from the inflow to the first pond and then out of the pond.
Being no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
SCHLANGEN: I would like to move that we not zone site 541
for surface mining, that we maintain the
540,000 cubic yard resource in the Deschutes
County inventory, and that planning staff
prepare the ESEE report that shows site 541
does not comply with goal 5 because mitigation
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has not been sufficiently addressed.
THROOP: Second
Discussion on the motion followed. Commissioner Schlangen
stated that her great concern was for the ecological impact of
the ponds. She also did not know how long it would take for
vegetation to come back or for the wildlife to reappear, but
at this time, was not convinced that the ponds would be an
asset.
Commissioner Throop stated that the record is insufficient to
support findings that the negative environmental consequences
can be mitigated and that the noise and water quality
regulations can be met. He also felt that there was a
potential for further degradation of other Goal 5 resources,
namely fish and wildlife areas and habitats, and insufficient
evidence in the record to indicate that any of these could be
mitigated. He also noted that there were conflicts with uses
as well, primarily rural residential uses.
Chairman Maudlin stated that a concern he has with the site is
the undisputed testimony regarding sound levels. The dispute
arises at the staff level but is a matter that was not brought
up during the public hearing. It appears after reading the
staff report that the ponds can be developed whether it is
zoned for surface mining or not.
Dave Leslie stated it would require approval and a conditional
use permit to excavate material in a flood plain. It would
not necessarily need to be zoned surface mining.
Chairman Maudlin stated ponds could be put in if a certain
standard were met and that up to 50,000 cubic yards could be
taken out and used on site.
Dave Leslie stated that noise standards would still have to be
met but that they would not be reviewed with the same process
as for surface mining.
Commissioner Throop stated that if the site was not zoned for
surface mining, an application for a conditional use permit to
excavate for material to be used on site was a permissible
application to be made. He stressed again that the material
must be used on site, cannot be processed on site, and does
require a conditional use permit. Regarding noise, the
analysis to date is insufficient to determine that the DEQ
noise regulations can be met. The burden of proof is not on
opponents but is on the applicant to show that the noise
standards can be met. It is clear from the information that
there is not sufficient information from the applicant that
the noise standards can be met.
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Commissioner Schlangen indicated she was not satisfied with
the data that was presented by DSA. With the houses in close
proximity, noise and dust levels was a concern.
VOTE: THROOP: YES
SCHLANGEN: YES
MAUDLIN: YES
2. WEEKLY WARRANT VOUCHERS BATCH 1 (S84,118.59) FROM 6/28/91
Before the Board was a nunc pro tunc request for payment of
weekly warrant vouchers in the amount of $84,118.59.
THROOP: I'll move approval subject to review.
SCHLANGEN: Second approval
VOTE: THROOP: YES
SCHLANGEN: YES
MAUDLIN: YES
3. ORDER 91-091 DISTRIBUTING LAND SALE REVENUES
Before the Board was a nunc pro tunc action on Order No. 91-
091, distributing land use funds.
SCHLANGEN: I move signature of Order 91-091.
THROOP: Second
VOTE: THROOP: YES
SCHLANGEN: YES
MAUDLIN: YES
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