1992-30906-Minutes for Meeting September 09,1992 Recorded 9/16/199292-30906
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DESCHUTES COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONE SF!D j
September 9, 1992
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Chairman Maudlin called the meeting to order at 10 a.m. Board
members in attendance were: Dick Maudlin, Tom Throop and Nancy
Pope Schlangen. Also in attendance were: Rick Isham, County
Counsel; Bruce White, Assistant County Counsel; George Read,
Planning Director; Paul Blikstad, Planner; and Karen Green,
Community Development Director.
1. CONSENT AGENDA
Consent agenda items before the Board were: #1, signature of
Amendment to Personal Services Contract for Conservation for
Central Oregon dba Bend Recycling Team; #2, signature of ODOT
Agreement for possible crushed rock purchase; #3, signature of
Personal Services Contract for Ralston Barber Communications;
#4, signature of Resolution 92-104 establishing a petty cash
fund for the Health Department; #5, approval of Amendment #23
to the 1992-93 Mental Health Intergovernmental Agreement; #6,
signature of Personal Services Contracts with Dr. Geoff Hyde
and Dr. John Rennebohm for FY -1992-93; #7, signature of
Development Agreement for Ken Purkey as a condition of
approval for LM -92-27 for property at 67015 Rock Island Lane;
#8, signature of tax refund Order 92-103; #9, chair signature
of liquor license renewal for LaPine Mini Mart and Sunsets at
Orion Greens; #10, signature of Resolution 92-073 establishing
a fee for a family planning device; #11, signature of City of
Redmond plat for Hayden Village Phase IV.
SCHLANGEN: Move approval of the consent agenda.
THROOP: Second the motion.
VOTE: THROOP: YES
SCHLANGEN: YES
MAUDLIN: YES
2. PUBLIC HEARING: ORDER 92-094 PLATEAU ANNEXATION TO RFPD #1
Before the Board was a public hearing on Order 92-094
approving the annexation of Plateau Estates to Rural Fire
Protection District No. 1 and scheduling the final hearing for
October 7, 1992.
Chairman Maudlin opened the public hearing. There being no
one who wished to testify, the public hearing was closed.
MAUDLIN: I request a motion for signature of Order 92-Q94.
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THROOP: So moved.
VOTE: THROOP: YES
SCHLANGEN: YES
MAUDLIN: YES
3. WATER RESOURCE DISCUSSION WITH BOB MAIN
Commissioner Throop said a couple of things came to the
Board's attention recently, so they had asked Bob Main, South -
Central Region Manager, Department of Water Resources, to come
to this meeting. Commissioner Throop said there was a water
right application for the Cyrus development in the
Cloverdale/Sisters area which generated some discussion about
land use policy in Deschutes County. He asked if Mr. Main
knew anything about that issue and any discussion or
conclusions drawn by the Water Resource Commission in that
proceeding. Also, the Water Commission was going through some
rule making proceedings to protect the Columbia River water
resources for the protection of indigenous salmon species.
This would affect the water basins (i.e. Deschutes) which
impacted the Columbia system. There was discussion that they
wouldn't just protect surface water but potentially ground
water which might be providing surface water.
Bob Main said the Water Resources Department staff had
proposed that the Water Commission adopt amendments to the
basin plans for all streams and tributaries for the Columbia
above Bonneville which would close the surface water of those
basins to any consumptive uses except uses which would promote
fish recovery, domestic livestock and uses essential for
public health and safety, i.e. fire fighting. He felt this
proposal would be adopted. The impact on the Deschutes Basin
was "not going to be that great." The upper Deschutes was
already more restricted that this proposal. The Crooked River
system would not be effected "because there was no water to
apply for anyway." There was water to apply for in the Lower
Deschutes, however he couldn't think of any "uses which could
come up down there." The drafts that he had seen involved
surface water only, not groundwater. He said there had been
many, large groundwater applications in Deschutes County over
the last ten years. The Commission had always felt uneasy
about the lack of hard information about the ground water
situation in the Deschutes basin. The Cyrus' application was
the latest example. The Commission felt they had no factual
basis to deny the application, however they "didn't feel good"
about approving it.
Commissioner Throop asked about the size of the Cyrus
application. Mr. Main said he thought it was about 5 cubic
feet per second. He ran a total of how many cubic feet per
second had been applied for from groundwater from the Sister
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area since back in the 1950s, and he came up with a little
over 100 cubic feet per second. He asked if the Board had
received at letter from the Department of Water Resources, and
the Board said they had not. Mr. Main said he could quote
from the discussion of the Water Commission at their July
meeting. He quoted Roger Bockman as stating, "I would think
that Deschutes and Jefferson County Commissioners and economic
development folks should be alerted to this threat." The
threat being the lack of information and the increasing
reluctance of the Commission to issue ground water usage
permits without more information. They discussed whether the
Water Resources Department should alert the counties of
Central Oregon that the Commission felt there was a problem,
and they would like to put the counties on notice and elicit
their interest in trying to do something about it. The draft
letter to the counties said that counties should not expect
routine approval of groundwater applications in the future
unless the Commission could get more information about the
groundwater regime and how it worked. The Water Resources
Department did not have any funds to get that kind information
at this time. The City of Bend sponsored a meeting with U.S.
Geologic Service recently, and the USGS suggested that the
City do a groundwater study which would cost about $1 million.
The USGS would pay for half and the other entities would have
to come up with the other half. The other entitles might be
Water Resources Department, the County, and developers.
Chairman Maudlin asked how many applications for groundwater
had been made in the Deschutes County area. Mr. Main said he
didn't know but he could look it up, however he felt there had
been quite a few, i.e. Black Butte Ranch, Indian Ford.
Chairman Maudlin said it would be the developer's problem to
convince the Water Resource Commission that water was
available, not the County's. Mr. Main said the letter would
suggest that it wasn't all the Water Resource Department's
either.
Commissioner Throop said the state had most of the authority
over ground and surface water in Oregon. So he understood
that Mr. Main was saying that the Water Resources Department
was going to have a difficult time meeting this responsibility
because they didn't have enough data to make decisions,
however they were not in a position to get the data.
Therefore, they wanted someone else to help get the data, but
to retain the decision-making authority at the state level.
Mr. Main agreed with his evaluation of the situation.
Commissioner Throop asked if there was going to be a more
restrictive approach to approving applications, what kind of
criteria would the state use to either approve or deny
applications. Mr. Main said they could propose rule making
and make findings that the risk of issuing new water rights on
ground water was too great in the Deschutes Basin without
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information and close it. The ground water regime question
was so large that it was unreasonable to tell one individual
who was applying for water that he/she was responsible to get
the necessary data.
Commissioner Throop said he understood that at the USGS
meeting, it was determined that even if the County had the
half million dollars to spend on the program, it would still
be a five-year process. Mr. Main pointed out that all of the
information would be made available as it was received.
Commissioner Schlangen asked if the Department of Water
Resources had any money to contribute to the groundwater
study. Mr. Main said he wasn't aware of any money that could
be used for this study. The Commissioners thank Bob Main for
bringing them this information.
ORDER 92-104 SALE OF TAX FORECLOSED PROPERTY FOR THE THOMAS'
Before the Board was signature of Order 92-104 providing for
the sale of tax foreclosed property to the record owner
(Jeffrey Norman Thomas and Sheryl Ann Thomas) for the payment
of past due taxes, penalties, deed costs, recording fees and
administrative fees in the amount of $1,838.38. If approved,
there was a Bargain and Sale Deed prepared for the Board's
signature.
MAUDLIN: I would entertain a motion for signature of Order
92-104 and signature of Bargain an Sale Deed.
THROOP: I'll make the motion.
SCHLANGEN: Second.
VOTE: THROOP: YES
SCHLANGEN: YES
MAUDLIN: YES
ACCOUNTS PAYABLE VOUCHER
Before the Board was approval of Accounts Payable Vouchers in
the amount of $328,695.74.
SCHLANGEN: Move approval upon review.
THROOP: Second the motion.
VOTE: THROOP: YES
SCHLANGEN: YES
MAUDLIN: YES
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6. DECISION ON FENNELL REMAND
Before the Board was a decision on
Fennell decision on MP -91-27 which
parcel into three lots in an EFU-20
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the LUBA remand of the
would divide a 60 -acre
zone.
George Read felt it was clear from the Board's work session on
this topic that the criteria for partitions was unclear. He
said staff had taken a position which legal counsel felt would
be difficult to defend. He said the criteria required them to
look at the comprehensive plan and the zoning ordinance. They
had problems with the fact that there would be two houses on
one of the 20 -acre parcels which only had 7 acres of water.
There was a question of whether one house was a nonconforming
use. They questioned whether the house would remain a farm
dwelling. The staff report before the Hearings Officer
indicated there was inadequate evidence in the record to
justify that the house would be a farm dwelling after the
partition, and therefore the partition would create a nonfarm
dwelling. The applicant's expert provided evidence that the
partition would not reduce the capability of the land to be
productive. Staff commented at the end of that hearing that
while the partition might not reduce the capability, it would
split it up three ways. Based on evidence of how many animal
units the parcel could have and then dividing that by three,
they felt it was not shown that each parcel was suitable for
the intended use. There was a question as to whether or not
the record said there would be a dwelling on each of the
parcels. Staff felt it was clear from the testimony that
these would be hobby farms, so the question was still whether
they would be suitable for farm use with 7 acres of water on
a 20 -acre parcel. The Hearings Officer found that this
application was inconsistent with the intent of the zoning
ordinances. The next question was whether or not the
dwellings conformed with the zoning ordinance, and whether the
newly created parcels were suitable for the intended use. The
Hearings Officer decided he could not make that decision,
however a conditional use permit, on at least the existing
parcel as a condition of approval to establish that it was a
farm dwelling, would resolve that issue.
Rick Isham said that when the County went to LUBA, two of the
assignments of error related to use of the property more as
residential and not as farm dwellings. Under the state
statutes relating to partitions, it said "partition for farm
use." Therefore, they went back to the administrative rule
and argued to LUBA that because of the parcel's size, under
state law the administrative rule would not allow this
partition. LUBA said this rule related to the siting of a
dwelling while this was a partition which met the minimum lot
size and therefore, under state law, the fact that some
subsequent application would have to be made for a dwelling
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was not relevant. He thought Mr. Read was suggesting that
since under state law, the County's argument didn't win, that
the County should pursue it under County ordinance. The
ordinance said that "this proposal is in compliance with
applicable zoning." When you looked at the "applicable
zoning," the EFU section under uses permitted outright said,
"farm use, dwelling customarily provided in conjunction with
farm use." Some of these ordinances had since been amended
twice, and he was already working on a new amendment. Based
on those statements in the zoning ordinance, the Planning
staff recommended that they apply under the September, 1991
amendments and actually make conditional use applications for
these proposed lots. The difficulty he had with supporting
the Planning staff position, was the County made the argument
under state law and that argument was lost at LUBA. At LUBA
they asked him, "well if you've got a 20 -acre zone, why can't
you create a 20 -acre lot." In the LUBA decision, they said,
"You must make the decision based on the standards and
criteria in your ordinance." He said the County had, "in
essence, no criteria." The County had subsequently
established criteria after the application was submitted.
George Read said that while dwellings were not a conditional
use in the ordinance, since 1987 the County had treated
dwellings as a conditional use because of court cases which
said that these were discretionary decisions, and that the
administrative rules, therefore, did apply to the County's
zoning ordinance at the time this application was filed.
Chairman Maudlin said there were two dwelling on one of the
proposed 20 -acre parcels, however they were built prior to the
comprehensive plan. Rick Isham said the original position was
that you should have a permit for each lot to be proposed, and
the County shouldn't allow the creation of a lot when it was
unknown whether a building permit could be approved on the
lot. However, the County's ordinance did not say that. The
record showed that one of the existing buildings was built in
the 1930s or 1940s, and the other one received its permits in
1977 before the current zoning and planning ordinances. He
felt Mr. Read's position was that because the dwellings
existed when the partition was requested, the applicant should
be required to prove, in conjunction with the partition, that
one would continue to be a farm dwelling. The second house
would then be some kind of nonconforming use. The other side
was whether there was anything which required them to do
anything with the existing houses. Their tax status would not
change unless the Assessor reassessed them to determine
whether or not the parcels still qualified as a farm use. He
felt the question was whether they were required to
affirmatively deal with the issue of the house at this
juncture or was it an issue at all with respect to the
approval of the partition.
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Commissioner Schlangen felt lots should not be created when
dwellings would not be allowed on them, which was why she
voted the was she did on this issue the last time. She also
questioned the suitability of the intended use. However, she
interpreted the LUBA decision, the County could not apply the
administrative rule to the partition, and that they met the
criteria for a 20 -acre farm parcel. The applicants had
assured they could keep the property in farm use. She didn't
feel the County had much choice, even though she didn't want
to allow the partition.
Chairman Maudlin said he felt the same way, however the County
lost its argument at LUBA.
Commissioner Throop said he didn't feel the County "lost the
argument," but that LUBA remanded it back to the County to
look at it in a different way. He asked if there was any
information in the record that could lead this Board to the
conclusion that the partition would create parcels which were
not suitable for the intended use which was farming. George
Read said the problem was determining "what is farming." They
had discussed whether it was conducting an operation with the
intention of making a profit. The evidence and the record
probably showed that they did intend to make a profit. Rick
Isham said nothing was added to the record except the
petitioner's information.
Commissioner Throop felt it was "absolutely ludicrous" that
the County would be creating these three parcels when it could
be difficult to get dwelling permits for them. This would
further proliferate the creation of small parcels in an area
where that shouldn't be occurring.
Commissioner Schlangen said she felt a little better about
creating these parcels when she saw the number of small
parcels in the surrounding area.
Commissioner Throop restated what he understood the staff to
be saying, "This application preceded the changes in the
ordinance and because that was the initial application date,
we can't consider those changes in the ordinance but must deal
with the ordinances that were in place at the time of the
original application." Mr. Read said that was correct.
Chairman Maudlin pointed out that if someone wanted to place
a dwelling on two of these parcels, they would have to apply
for a farm dwelling which would be difficult. Therefore, it
would probably be difficult for the partitioner to sell the
parcels. However, he didn't feel the Board could deny this
partition because of when the application was submitted and
what was in the record.
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MAUDLIN: I would move that we allow the partition as
requested and that it be noted in the findings, and
I would instruct staff to make findings that uphold
our discussion here, but to also note that these
parcels do not necessarily... they are farm parcels
and that an application for a farm dwelling must
include the ordinances as they exist today or at
the time of application.
SCHLANGEN: I'll second it.
Commissioner Throop said he was going to vote no because in
order to vote yes, he would have to be able to determine that
the parcels being created were suitable for the intended use.
VOTE: THROOP: NO
SCHLANGEN: YES
MAUDLIN: YES
DATED this 7 day of
Commissioners of Deschutes 1
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