1995-01003-Minutes for Meeting April 20,1994 Recorded 12/1/19940137-158"1
95-01003
MINUTES
Cascade Pumice Public Hearing
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DESCHUTES COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
April 20, 1994 '1 +4
Chair Schlangen called the public hearing to order at 5:37 p.m.
Board of Commissioners in attendance were Nancy Pope Schlangen, Tom
Throop, and Barry Slaughter. Also in attendance were Bruce White,
Assistant County Counsel; and Dave Leslie, Planner.
PUBLIC HEARING ON AN APPEAL OF HEARINGS OFFICERS FINDINGS AND
RECOMMENDATIONS ON SP -93-29 BY CASCADE PUMICE
Commissioner Schlangen reported this issue had been before the
Hearings Officer at public hearings on December 9, 1993, and
January 6, 1994.
Chair Schlangen asked for disclosure from the Commissioners for any
prehearing contact in this matter. All three Commissioners
reported having no prehearing contact. Chair Schlangen also asked
audience members if they felt any member of the Board of
Commissioners should be challenged with bias or inability to make
a fair decision in this matter. No challenge was made from the
public.
Dave Leslie reported the subject property was currently zoned and
designated on the Comprehensive Plan for surface mining. It was
considered as part of the legislative package considered by
Deschutes County in 1990. There are two adjacent properties known
as County Site #355, a 40 -acre parcel owned by Cascade Pumice, and
Site #356, a 120 -acre parcel owned by Tumalo Irrigation District.
Mining activity that was proposed by the applicant was an outright
permitted use in the surface mining zone, subject to a site plan
that complies with Chapter 18.52 of the County Code. The County
Code requires approval of the Site Plan when or if the applicant
demonstrates that requirements of the ESEE analysis and the
setbacks, standards and conditions of Title 18 have been or can be
satisfied by the proposed Site Plan.
The Hearings Officer approved the Site Plan in February with
twenty-eight conditions of approval. Many of those conditions
addressed specific standards and conditions in Title 18. There
were several issues on which the Hearings Officer recommended
additional information be submitted if this application was
appealed to the Board of County Commissioners. The applicant did
submit this information and will provide further testimony at this
hearing.
Sharon Smith, representing Cascade Pumice, reported she received
the appellants materials on the afternoon of Tuesday, April 19,
1994. She felt there was too much information to digest in a short
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amount of time and requested that the record remain open for
written testimony and additional exhibits.
Sharon Smith reported that Dugan Pearsall, Manager of Cascade
Pumice, will be testifying. Kerrie Standlee will then testify
regarding the noise study. Dave Bateman, David Evans & Associates,
will discuss the visual screening. Sharon will then summarize
their presentation.
Commissioner Throop asked how much time the applicants would need
for testimony. Sharon felt that it should take approximately one
hour.
Sharon Smith reported that Cascade Pumice filed the Site Plan
application on Site #356 and #357. Substantial documents were
submitted to show how the plan met the ordinance criteria. There
were two public hearings held before the Hearings Officer. The
Hearings Officer determined that Cascade Pumice met all the
criteria of the ordinance and approved the Site Plan with
substantial conditions. Cascade Pumice was prepared to meet all of
the conditions even though they were very expensive. Sharon stated
that Cascade Pumice was here to ask the Board of County
Commissioners to affirm the Hearings Officers decision and uphold
the determination that they have met the criteria.
Sharon Smith reported additional information had been provided as
requested by the Hearings Officer, such as: 1) a DOGAMI reclamation
plan; 2) proof of availability of Avion Water in the non -irrigation
season; 3) site watering plan; 4) proof of adequacy of road dust
suppression; and 5) an additional plan for screening Tumalo
Reservoir Road which included the planting of 90 trees.
Sharon Smith reported these sites were zoned surface mining. The
zoning designation was not appealed by anyone. She felt there was
no legal ground to challenge the zoning of these sites. She felt
Cascade Pumice has met all the criteria and that the Hearings
Officer's decision should be upheld.
Sharon Smith reviewed four legal issues raised by the appellant.
The first issue was DEQ air quality. She reported that Cascade
Pumice has an Air Contaminate Discharge Permit.
Commissioner Throop asked if this permit was for the new area that
would be mined or for the entire site. Sharon Smith stated she did
not know the answer to that question, but she would find out.
Sharon Smith reported there were two issues raised in the
appellants materials regarding setbacks. One issue was related to
the berms. She stated that berms can be within the setback portion
as they are not a structure and are not subject to the setback
requirements. She stated that historically the setbacks have been
from the residence itself.
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Sharon Smith stated that screening is an outright permitted use
under 15.52.040 C. The screener separates out large pieces of
pumice from the rest of it.
Sharon Smith stated the mining operation is subject to the Mining
Safety Health Administration (MSHA), which is a federal agency.
Safety inspections are required by law to be done every six months.
MSHA evaluates whether the mining operation is meeting Federal
Mining Safety Standards.
Dugan Pearsall, General Manager of Cascade Pumice, testified in
support. He showed a video tape of the screener and other pieces
of equipment in operation.
Dugan Pearsall testified that the Manager of Cascade Pumice in 1989
stated that Site 355 had approximately 1,000,000 cubic yards and
they would be done in 4 to 5 years. Site 356 had approximately
500,000 cubic yards and they would be done within a year. On Site
357 they estimated one more year to mine. Dugan felt the previous
manager made these estimates based on his experience in the mining
business and the equipment that was available to him at that time.
He stated that at the end of 1989 Cascade Pumice acquired equipment
that enabled them to mine the resource that was previously
unavailable to them. The new equipment also enabled them to catch
up on the reclamation of Sites 356 and 357.
Dugan Pearsall reported that in June, 1993, Deschutes County
informed Cascade Pumice that they needed a new site plan for Sites
#355 and #356. The resources in Sites #355 are approximately 1
million cubic yards and Site #356 are about 500,00 cubic yards. He
stated that he agreed with the statement of the previous manager of
Cascade Pumice when he estimated 5 years to mine Site #355. He
disagreed with the estimated time needed to mine Site #356. He
felt that in order for 500,000 cubic yards to be removed from Site
#356, it would take 2 1/2 to 3 years. He felt that it would take
about 8 years of exclusive mining on Sites #355 and #356 to remove
the resource based on 200,000 cubic yards annually.
Kerrie Standlee of Daily, Standlee & Associates, a registered
acoustical engineer, stated that he had been involved in acoustical
engineering for 19 years. He reported that his company was
contacted by Cascade Pumice to assist them in developing a mining
plan which would address the DEQ written noise regulations. They
visited the site and observed the procedures used in the existing
mining operation. In developing the analysis they used a computer
model called "noise calc" to monitor the noise levels at the site.
They monitored the sound from the scraper, screening equipment,
dozer, and considered the use of all of the equipment that they
might want to use. To meet the DEQ regulations they determined
that it would be best for Cascade Pumice to use the scraper or the
small dozer as the large dozer was too noisy.
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Mr. Standlee reported they looked at the worst case noise
conditions for each residence that they analyzed. He stated that
they do not normally analyze all residences within a certain
distance of a site. They look at the residences that have the most
potential for being impacted or where the levels have the most
potential to exceed the DEQ regulations. They would take into
account the topography, the location of the residence, and if there
are any natural barriers between the residence and the site. In
developing the analysis they looked at the worst case condition for
each residence that they analyzed. In order to do that they
located the sources for a particular residence at the location at
which the distance was the shortest distance or in which the sound
propagation would be maximum to that location. For each residence
they took only one location and addressed that residence from that
location for the sources. The location that was selected was the
one which they found produced the highest noise levels at that
residence. For the next residence they took another location for
the sources because the sound reduces with distance from the
source. They looked at the residences and where the sources would
be to produce the maximum levels for that residence.
Mr. Standlee stated that if the screening equipment was down in the
trench, it will never be heard above the sound of the front end
loader. The reason for this was because the screening equipment
was about half as loud as the front end loader.
Mr. Standlee addressed the back-up beepers on the equipment. He
stated there was mitigation for those pieces of equipment. One
means of mitigation was a "smart alarm" which cause the sound level
of the beeper to be determined by the ambient sound level in the
area where the equipment was working. The requirement from the
mining regulation people was that the level of the beeper has to be
audible above the equipment noise.
Mr. Standlee reported that the noise from the watering truck was
not included in their analysis. He stated that the noise from that
truck would be no greater than that from the scraper. If the
scraper and the watering truck were operating simultaneously and in
close proximity, the noise level would be higher. The mining
operation can still meet the DEQ regulations because mitigation can
be applied to both pieces of equipment.
Dave Bateman, a surveyor with David Evans & Associates, testified
in support of this application. He stated there was screening
created by the berms.
Sharon Smith, attorney for the applicant, stated the ordinance
requires that supplied screening be used. Supplied screening can
include berms, earthen berms, and vegetative screening. The
vegetative screening height was 6 feet. If the supplied screening
does not work due to topography, there would be no additional
requirement. There was one site where the use of supplied
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screening does not completely screen the operation. She stated
Cascade Pumice could plant some additional vegetative screening on
top of the berm or closer to the setback line.
Bruce White asked if Sharon Smith felt that Cascade Pumice met the
standard without the additional vegetative screening. Sharon felt
they met the standard without it, because due to topography the
mining operation could not be completely screened.
Ed Fitch, representing the appellants, asked Kerrie Standlee if the
equipment was on site when the noise study was done. Mr. Standlee
stated he had Cascade Pumice run the equipment on Site #357 and he
recorded the sound. He then took the tape recording back to his
office to analyze. Mr. Fitch asked if there were any tests done on
Site #356. Mr. Standlee said no. Mr. Fitch asked if any of the
tests included all of the equipment operating all at once. Mr.
Standlee said no. Mr. Fitch asked if any of the tests included
noise levels from both of the sites operating at the same time.
Mr. Standlee stated that the tests took in the possibility of
operations on both sites. Mr. Fitch asked if you were at one of
the residences that could hear Site #357, would the noise from Site
#356 be in addition to that. Mr. Standlee stated that the noise
from Site #356 would be louder than what would be coming from Site
#357. Mr. Fitch asked what the noise level would be from both
operations at once. Mr. Standlee stated only the noise from #356.
He stated you would not see an increase in the sound level even
though you might be able to detect a specific frequency of sound
from another direction, but it would not be affecting the overall
level of sound. Mr. Fitch asked how Mr. Standlee would know that
without testing. Mr. Standlee stated he would be able to tell from
the frequency analysis. He stated that when an analysis was done,
they go back and analyze that sound for frequency content and the
octave bands from 31.5 hertz to 8000 hertz are measured. Then by
using that data they predict the levels radiating from the source
to the residence. He stated that hearing something and having it
affect the level are two different things. He stated he analyzed
the scraper, screening equipment, and the front end loader all
operating simultaneously.
Sharon Smith asked Kerrie Standlee if the fact that the sound was
measured on #357 (rather than #356) would flaw the analysis.
Kerrie Standlee stated no. He reported that if you take a source
and put it in any position, you can predict the sound radiating
from that source to the different residences and take into account
the topography at that site and all of the effects that you would
have on sound, and it would not change its radiating
characteristics whether it is on Site #357 or #356. Sharon Smith
stated that she knew that he had measured each piece of equipment
individually but asked if he had considered what would happen if
they were all operating at once. Mr. Smith said yes. He stated
that they analyzed it assuming three pieces of equipment were
operating simultaneously. Sharon Smith asked if the sound of the
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watering truck was added, would Cascade Pumice be able to meet the
DEQ requirements. Mr. Standlee said yes. Sharon Smith asked
Kerrie Smith what would be done in the follow up study. Mr. Smith
stated that in a follow up study they set up the monitors at the
residences and let them run. Every hour the equipment calculates
internally what the levels were during 50% of the hour, 10% of the
hour and 1% of the hour. The numbers are then compared with the
DEQ regulations.
Ed Fitch stated the presentation by the appellants would cover the
mining plan, the amount of the overburden on the property, the
amount of the top soil, sources of dust, the impact of that dust on
the surrounding area, the applicants plan to suppress that dust,
address the proposal of winter operations, the deficiencies that
are in the plan, the setbacks from the residential uses, the
location of the berms, the storage of the equipment, the noise, and
the monitoring problems that are anticipated.
Ed Fitch stated that the information that had been given by the
applicant had been very confusing and, in his opinion, misleading.
He felt there was no fair and open analysis of this application.
Ed Fitch stated the information he had received on the amount of
overburden on this site had been very conflicting. He stated that
in 1988 Chuck Clark had indicated that they were finishing up the
mining at that time because the depth of the overburden in the
other areas was prohibitive. In 1993 when this process started,
the applicant submitted a number of burden of proof statements. In
the supplemental burden of proof statement, the overburden was
described as anywhere from 4 feet to 20 feet. At about the same
time that information was submitted, Dugan Pearsall indicated in an
interview on television that the total pit depth on this site was
between 20 feet and 40 feet, which would include the top soil, the
overburden and the pumice. At the hearing on January 6, 1994, the
testimony was that the overburden could range anywhere from 5 feet
to 60 feet. In the report that was submitted a few days ago, the
overburden was described as somewhere between 10 feet and 30 feet.
Ed Fitch felt it was hard to believe that a more thorough analysis
had not been done as to what was under the surface in this area,
how deep the pumice was, and what it would cost to get it out. Ed
Fitch stated it was still unclear as to how much overburden was on
this site.
Ed Fitch stated that in the DOGAMI report in 1982, Cascade Pumice
indicated that the topsoil was somewhere between 6 and 12 inches.
In the burden of proof that was stated as the same amount. In the
appeal, the amount of top soil was stated as being 12 inches. In
the reclamation plan filed with DOGAMI recently it was described as
12 to 18 inches. He stated there was a big difference between 12
to 18 inches of top soil. He stated there was nothing in the
record that states the amount of top soil, but there was a lot of
conflicting information.
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Warren Rehn, a professional geologist, testified in opposition of
this appeal. He used an overhead projector to review information
on the mining site which was included in the notebooks submitted
for evidence. He stated the applicant did not submit a topographic
map nor a cross section of the site. He felt the dust from the
Tumalo Tuft could not be adequately controlled.
Patty Rehn, a geologist, testified in opposition of this appeal.
She provided samples of Tumalo Tuft which is composed of fine ash.
She stated that pumice does not make as much dust as the Tumalo
Tuft.
Ed Fitch stated the applicant had described that the overburden was
the source of the dust on the project site. He stated the
neighbors felt there were multiple sources for the dust. He stated
the mining plan shows that there was a proposal to construct a berm
along the north side and the southeast side of the property. These
berms will be made up of the ashen overburden and they would be a
significant source of dust. Additional overburden will be stock
piled which would be a second source of dust. The pumice that is
exposed would be a source of dust. The overburden that is exposed
on the side of the pit would be a source of dust. The screener
operation, the trucks, the road, the loading area for the trucks,
the reclaimed area, and the actual mining area would be sources of
dust. He felt that the dust that would be generate would have a
number of impacts. The dust will effect their livability and their
health, and this impact should not be minimized.
Ed Fitch discussed how the applicant proposed to suppress the dust.
He stated there was no documentation by the applicant regarding how
water would be needed. He reported Cascade Pumice states that they
plan to water but it was not tied to a need.
Tom Hall, a water quality specialist at DEQ, testified in
opposition to the appeal. He stated the main point was that
Cascade Pumice has not adequately planned for their irrigation
watering and water supply needs. He understood that Cascade Pumice
had the burden of proving that they can do what they say they would
do in regard to controlling dust. He felt this had not been done.
He stated there were procedures for planning an irrigation system
to meet both the irrigation requirements of newly planted as well
as established vegetation. He reported these same procedures could
be adapted to determine water needs for dust control on unvegetated
surfaces.
Dr. Dan Harrison, Veterinarian, shared a video tape with the Board.
The video tape showed the mining site from his property which
included noise from equipment running and showed dust blowing. His
biggest concerns was that the dust goes beyond being a nuisance and
poses a health hazard. He stated he felt the dust had a high
percentage of particulate matter and the people in this
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neighborhood were breathing it almost daily. He felt this was a
health risk especially to the elderly and children.
Dr. Harrison reported that Cascade Pumice has said they will apply
up to 72,000 gallons of water per day which equals 500,000 gallons
per week to put on the dirt. He felt this was not a wise use of
our water resource.
Tony Jermaczonak testified in opposition of this appeal. He stated
his property was a 1/4 mile north of mining Site 356. He showed a
video tape of the dust.
Pat Tellin testified in opposition to this appeal. She stated her
residence was the closest one to the mining property. The setback
from her front door was 290 feet.
Faith Hall testified in opposition to the appeal. She stated that
Cascade Pumice had misrepresented themselves over the years.
Ed Fitch stated the ESEE analysis prohibited operations by Cascade
Pumice from October 31st to March 31st. The Hearings Officer
allowed mining through those dates if a water plan was acceptable.
He felt there should not be any winter operations because the
applicant has not shown an adequate watering plan.
Ed Fitch addressed setbacks. The stated the applicant claimed that
setbacks had to be 250 feet from the residential structure. Mr.
Fitch stated that the code says all mining activity must be at
least 250 feet from a noise sensitive use or structure. He pointed
out that people use their yards and felt the mining activity should
be at least 250 feet from the yards.
Mr. Fitch reported that Cascade Pumice felt that the berms could be
between the setback line and the property line. He stated the code
provides that any mining activity or use must 250 feet away. He
felt that berms were a mining activity because that is their
purpose.
Mr. Fitch stated the storage of equipment could not stored within
a 1/4 mile of a dust sensitive use. Cascade Pumice was proposing
to have that equipment within 1/4 of a mile. He felt that if
Cascade Pumice was to do that, they must prove that on any other
site they cannot locate this screener.
Ed Fitch stated the Hearings Officer required that if there were
high wind conditions, the operations must be curtailed. Ed
wondered who determined when operations should be curtailed. He
felt it was almost impossible to monitor and there was no plan to
do so.
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Ed Fitch felt the neighbors had been given misleading information
by the applicant time and time again. He felt the Board had the
right to revoke the zoning based on the information supplied.
Sharon Smith, attorney for the applicant, requested an additional
hearing in order to present rebuttal testimony. She stated that
rebuttal testimony would take 1 to 1 1/2 hours.
Commissioner Throop stated he had several questions. He asked
staff to explain the basis for the requirement of new site plans.
Dave Leslie stated there was a time period when the County became
aware of reentry into the site. At that time the County determined
that the pre-existing site plan had run its course and was no
longer valid to use to reenter the subject property.
Sharon Smith stated that Cascade Pumice believed that they had the
authority to go in and mine Site #356 and so they started. They
were then told that they needed to apply for a site plan. They
submitted justification as to why they felt they did not need a
site plan. It was their opinion that the entire mining site
operation of Cascade Pumice was covered by a valid DOGAMI permit.
She felt that permit included sites #355, #356, and #357.
Commissioner Throop asked if Cascade Pumice had a valid site plan
for mining those sites. Sharon Smith stated it was her belief that
they did not need an additional site plan because they had a valid
DOGAMI permit. Commissioner Throop asked again if they had a valid
County site plan for sites #355 and #356. Sharon Smith stated the
County told them they did not have a valid site plan. She stated
they were before the Board for that reason.
Dave Leslie reported there was some written correspondence that
addressed that issue. The five year time limitation that was put
on this area when it was first zones surface mining in 1982.
Shortly after that, the site plan for this application was
approved. One of the conditions for approval was that all
conditions for that zone change became site plan conditions. The
five year limitation transferred to the approved site plan in 1982.
In reviewing this issue in 1993, the site plan became invalid in
1987. There was discussion not to require a new site plan in
approximately 1990.
Bruce White reported that in the written ESEE there was no
limitation and that was not appealed. He felt the question was
whether the previous written decision reflected the Board's actual
decision.
Commissioner Throop asked if the berms could be inside the setbacks
or are they part of the mining operation that requires them to be
outside the setbacks. Dave Leslie reported that their preliminary
interpretation was the berms were not structures and they can exist
within the setbacks.
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Commissioner Throop asked if screening was a mining process. Dave
Leslie reported that it had previously been determined that
screening was processing and it was prohibited at the Rose Pit
site.
Commissioner Throop asked if the ESEE specifically state that there
would be a winter closure requirement. Dave Leslie reported the
closure was included in the ESEE findings because Oregon Department
of Fish & Wildlife considered this area to be in the deer winter
range.
Commissioner Schlangen stated there will be a continued public
hearing for rebuttal testimony on May 18, 1994, at 5:30 p.m. All
written testimony will be accepted but the hearing will be for oral
rebuttal testimony only.
DATED this :QDJj:::► day of 1994, by the
Board of Commissioners of Deschutes County, Oregon.
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Recording Secretary
Nancy Po* S/Jhlangen, Chair
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Barry H. Slaughter, Commissioner
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