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Linda L. Swearingen
Tom N. DeWolf
Dennis R. Luke
DESCHUTES COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS MEETING
WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 2, 2000
Chair Linda Swearingen opened the hearing at 11:00 a.m. Commissioners
present were Linda L. Swearingen, Dennis R. Luke and Tom'DeWolf. Also
in attendance were Bruce White, Legal Counsel; Paul Blikstad, Community
Development; and Michael Maier, County Administrator. Also present were
Barney Lerten, Bulletin Newspaper; Bob Shotwell, KICE Radio, Ray Lakey,
Candidate for Deschutes County Board of Commissioners position to be
vacated at the End of 2000; Dan Kiesow, the applicant involved in the Hearing;
and several interested citizens.
(This is a portion of the Minutes of the Board of Commissioners Regular Meeting
of Wednesday, February 2, 2000, concerning only the Hearing detailed below.)
RECONVENE AS THE DESCHUTES COUNTY BOARD OF
COMMISSIONERS
7. PUBLIC HEARING to Consider an Appeal of the Countv Hearings Officer's
Decision on CU -99-119, MP -99-18 (a Conditional Use Permit for a Non -
Farm Dwelling on a 3 -Acre Parcel That Would Be Created by a Partition of a
39 -Acre Parcel into a 3 -Acre Parcel and a 36 -Acre Parcel; Applicant: Daniel
Kiesow; originally Daniel Kiesow for Christine Watkins)
SWEARINGEN:
The Hearing today will consist of one hour; if additional time is needed to
complete the Hearing, a future date will be set for a continuation.
MINUTES of Board of Commissioners' Hearing Page 1 of 14
Wednesday, February 2, 2000 Quality Services Performed with Pride
Paul Blikstad, Community Development Planner, then gave an overview of
the history of the application and of the appeal.
BLIKSTAD: Daniel Kiesow, who previously acted as agent for Christine
Watkins, has purchased the property from her, so she is no longer a party to
the Hearing.
The application was denied on two main issues. The first is whether the
proposed non-farm dwelling would significantly alter the stability of the
overall land use pattern of the area. The Hearings Officer addressed these
criteria in great detail in her decision. Her conclusion was that the proposal
as submitted would destabilize the existing land use pattern, and would create
precedence for the approval of as many as thirty-eight additional non-farm
dwellings.
The second reason for denial was based on the criteria relating to the use of
the property in farming -and the production of livestock. It was determined
even though the soils are rocky, this acreage has been used for loafing.
LUKE:
Is the land is flood irrigated?
BLIKSTAD:
I believe it is.
LUKE:
The point is that grazing animals need an opportunity and a place to get out of
the irrigated portion of the land.
BLIKSTAD:
The Hearings Officer stated outright in her decision that she anticipated her
decision would be appealed, and made findings on the partition standards
under Title 17 of the County Code and the remaining EFU standards, and
found that the remaining criteria were all met.
The property is 39 acres and has two existing dwellings located on it in the
southeast quarter, both of which were constructed in 1955. The Assessor's
records indicate the larger home is just over 1300 square feet, and the smaller
home is 440 square feet.
MINUTES of Board of Commissioners' Hearing Page 2 of 14
Wednesday, February 2, 2000
BLIKSTAD:
Commissioners Swearingen and Luke have expressed concerned over the fact
that the proposed dwelling would be the third dwelling on the parcel. If that
is a concern, staff believes that the number of dwellings could only be tied to
the criteria when dealing with the stability of the existing land use pattern,
and the impact of this proposal on that pattern.
The applicant has submitted an outline for the Hearing today. The applicant
has questioned the staff as to why this went to a Hearing in the first place.
The concerns of Planning were threefold.
It was determined through investigation that the 30 -foot strip along the
northern property line is actually a dedicated public right-of-way. This is a
minor issue that could be easily resolved, either through the applicant
changing his flag lot configuration, or dedicating an extra thirty feet, making
it a full sixty -foot right-of-way.
The second reason was that a neighbor of the applicant called, asking how to
go about putting three dwellings on one lot, which was a red flag. The third
reason was the proposed dwelling would be placed in an area surrounded by
farming. Therefore, it was thought that a Hearing would be appropriate to
address all these issues.
DEWOLF: There were a couple of times when the Hearings Officer
mentioned the staff report; were we provided with this? Also, would this
include the comments of the other agencies as well?
BLIKSTAD:
If it has not been, the complete report will be provided to all three
Commissioners.
DAN KIESOW:
I am Dan Kiesow, the Applicant. I have purchased the property at 65797
Gerking Market Road, the subject property, from Christine Watkins, whom I
previously represented.
DEWOLF:
Is there a problem with this change of ownership?
KIESOW:
I did have the property under earnest money contract the entire time.
MINUTES of Board of Commissioners' Hearing Page 3 of 14
Wednesday, February 2, 2000
BRUCE WHITE:
Dan Kiesow had originally filed the appeal as the agent of Christine Watkins,
and she signed the original application. By record, we have her consent. I
don't see there being a problem with this.
KIESOW:
I have two tasks this morning: one, to convince the Commissioners that my
applications meet all the applicable criteria for approval and that they fall
short in no area; and two, to hold this hearing to those criteria. Today's
hearing is not a public opinion poll.
LUKE:
By going de novo, anyone can bring up anything. We do not hold this to any
type of agenda; it is open to anything anyone wants to say.
KIESOW:
I agree with what you are saying. I want to point out that there are two issues
here before the Board on which the Hearing Officer denied the original
application. I would like to keep this to those criteria.
Staff originally approved the application, with only two minor questions
regarding the road and neighbor conflict. Originally there was concern about
the additional dwelling on the property, but it is not a part of the criteria and
that's why staff and I didn't address it originally.
The two issues I wish to address are the general unsuitability and stability
issues. I'm not here to attack the Hearings Officer, but I do want to point out
the incompleteness of her fact-finding. I believe the denial is based on a lack
of information, and by not making a site visit.
The suitability of the farm issue, in my estimation, could not be determined
without a site visit and merely from photographs; nor could the similarly
situated issue in regard to stability.
If this property is going to create an instability issue, if the criteria calls for it
to be similarly situated to other parcels, in my opinion the decision falls short
by taking a too conservative approach.
MINUTES of Board of Commissioners' Hearing Page 4 of 14
Wednesday, February 2, 2000
KIESOW:
The Hearings Officer mentions in her findings that she has been questioned
about being too conservative, but that she has to speculate because she doesn't
have proper data in many cases to make these decisions. Therefore, she errs
on the side of denial, just to be conservative. I am asking for a reasonable
decision, which is defined as not exceeding the bounds of common sense.
DEWOLF:
In other words, if we don't agree with you, then we have no common sense?
KIESOW:
We'll have to debate that some other time. I don't wish for this to become
personal, but land use issues are definitely personal issues. Theycan become
neighbor versus neighbor, and property owner versus land use law:
In terms of general unsuitability, the Hearings Officer used some photos in
the file that show both the non-farm parcel and the in the background, the
farm parcel. The Hearings Officer makes some erroneous references
regarding sheep grazing on the less -rocky portions of the non-farm parcel.
Those photos showing the sheep grazing actually are on the farm portion and
not the non-farm parcel. When this was pointed out to the Hearings Officer,
she disregarded my testimony.
Secondly, the Hearings Officer in quoting the former owner, Christine
Watkins, who testified at the public hearing, stated that on page 14 of her
decision, "At the public hearing, the applicant, Watkins, testified that she has
grazed horses, cattle and sheep on the subject property".
However, the typed testimony of the hearing has Christine Watkins stating,
"The three acres that I'm seeking to split off are extremely rocky. My horses
refuse to go down there. Cattle would go down there if the neighbors' cattle
were in the field, and they'd walk down to see what was going on; but they
wouldn't hang out there.
"My sheep go down there whenever the dogs are out in the yard because I
have some wild bighorns that are afraid of the dogs, and they'll lead the whole
flock down.. If the dogs were not in the yard, if they were in the house where
I normally keep them, the sheep prefer to lie up by the road under the junipers
in a kind of grassy and sandy area."
MINUTES of Board of Commissioners' Hearing Page 5 of 14
Wednesday, February 2, 2000
KIESOW:
This is not part of the three acres. There are nine and one-half dry acres of
this thirty-nine acres. She also states that there is a very large dry lot up near
the barn by the stock pond that is the preferred area for the livestock to hang
out, as opposed to the rocky area. The ground is so rough on the three acres
that I'm seeking to split off that it is not a comfortable place for the animals to
be. The rest of the parcel is very smooth and sandy.
If you have photos, they probably show some of that. The actual part to be
split off is very rough, very difficult to walk over. So you can see that the
Hearings Officer's comments about raising cattle and sheep on that portion is
clearly inaccurate.
(At this time, Mr. Kiesow submitted photos into the record, showing the
three -acre parcel.)
LUKE:
In context, to ask staff, when you talk about subject property, to me it is the
whole thirty-nine acres, and not just a little three -acre piece.
KIESOW:
I'd like to read Page 14, the last paragraph, which says "At the public hearing,
the applicant testified she has grazed cattle, horses and sheep on the subject
property. The photographs of the proposed non-farm parcel in the record
show it is not fenced off from, and is at roughly the same elevation of the rest
of the subject property. The photos show no impediment to livestock on the
proposed non-farm parcel."
LUKE:
I would point out that she said "the rest of the subject property". So when
you say "subject property", she's talking about the whole thirty-nine acres and
not just a little piece of it.
S WEARINGEN:
I read that differently. I think that when you say subject property, it's the
three -acre piece that is asking for a non-farm dwelling.
KIESOW:
The question is, then, "whether the subject property can be reasonably put to
farm use in conjunction with other farms in the area". That's talking about the
three -acre piece. That's why it is an important issue.
MINUTES of Board of Commissioners' Hearing Page 6 of 14
Wednesday, February 2, 2000
KIESOW:
I asked the Hearings Officer not only at the public hearing but also again in
my rebuttal to testimony to make a site visit, that I didn't feel she could make
a reasonable decision without making one. From the photographs you really
can't tell.
DEWOLF:
Even if you make a site visit, is this taped off or marked so you can tell?
KIESOW:
Yes, there is a fence line and flagging on the parcel.
If the facts or the findings that the decision is based on are lacking,
incomplete or in error, then the decision itself would also be error. That's
why I hired Jim Burr, a former OSU Agricultural Extension Agent, to analyze
and give an opinion of the non-farm parcel. He viewed the property and
determined that it is not suitable for farm use, and is in fact 85 to 95 percent
rocks.
So, then, who is correct? The Hearings Officer who looked at photos and
made an incorrect assumption about the photos, who misquoted the
applicant's testimony, and who ignored my attempts to enlighten her in that
regard; or the man who is educated in and has worked his entire career in
agriculture.
I think it is very clear that the parcel is unsuitable or inappropriate. The
ordinance says "generally unsuitable", meaning pertaining to most or all, and
inappropriate. I don't think I have to prove that animals would avoid this
parcel, but rather that it is an inappropriate place for the production of
livestock or farm crops. That would be abundantly clear if a site visit is
made.
DEWOLF:
The Hearings Officer points out on page 15 that if these drier, treed areas are
used for resting, loafing or thermal cover, that there is nothing about these
areas that make them unsuitable for livestock production in combination with
the rest of the subject property. So as part of the larger parcel, it might be a
place for animals to rest or whatever.
MINUTES of Board of Commissioners' Hearing Page 7 of 14
Wednesday, February 2, 2000
KIESOW:
I agree, but there are nine and one-half dry acres. The ordinance specifically
allows for this piece to split off if we can meet these criteria. So DCC
1816.055(b) reads: Parcels less than the EFU minimum lot size may be
permitted to create one new parcel per non-farm dwelling. So, subject to the
criteria that we have a remaining twenty-three acres that are irrigated, we
have some remaining non -high value, non -irrigated land, we have loafing
land, we have homesite land, and we have a rocky area that is not appropriate
for animals to walk on.
DEWOLF:
What is to prevent you from, at some future date, attempting to split some
more off again?
KIESOW:
It's in the ordinance that it can't be done. You can do one split only.
BLIKSTAD:
(Explained the pertinent ordinance.) There can only be one new parcel for a
non-farm dwelling. And there is not enough allotted water.
KIESOW:
Regarding the stability issue, it needs to be defined in the context of what
must happen before this event can have an effect to deny this application. In
other words, it must materially alter the stability of the overall land use
pattern in the area. There are two key words: overall and materially.
The study area is two thousand acres. Of that two thousand acres a portion of
it is EFU, not all of it. About 25% of the tax lots are non-EFU. Of those tax
lots that are EFU, 18 tax lots have 23 acres of water, and therefore meet that
minimum commercial designation for the TRV sub -zone. There are 29 tax
lots, or 30%, that the Hearings Officer states can be "fairly characterized as
rural residences or hobby farms". So it's almost a two -to -one margin that we
are hobby farm to commercial farm.
KIESOW:
The second issue that defines stability is the trend, since 1993, for land use.
There have been two new farm dwellings approved, and eleven new non-farm
dwellings approved. That is 18% to 82%, non-farm versus farm, more than
five to one non-farm dwellings.
MINUTES of Board of Commissioners' Hearing Page 8 of 14
Wednesday, February 2, 2000
KIESOW:
According to staff, it is unlikely there will be any new farm dwellings
allowed; therefore, any new dwellings in this whole two thousand acres will
probably have to be non-farm dwellings. The Hearings Officer argues that
although this application continues the existing trend, the difference between
my application and the existing allowances, is that my application is based on
creating a new parcel.
There are two parts to this application. We've got the minor partition and the
conditional use. The minor partition cannot be approved without the
conditional use, and visa versa. If we consider that, I've met all of the criteria
for the minor partition, we must assume that it exists. For purposes of
cumulative effect, when she compares mine against 41 other potential non-
farm dwellings in this area, mine is not similar situated.
She articulates in her findings, quoting a case that was presented before
LUBA, stating there are two tests of similarly situated described therein; and
she uses those tests in my application. One is that it must be in the same
category of developability; the other is all those 31 vacant, non-farm parcels.
So we need to compare apples with apples. These aren't in the same category.
Also, they have to be of the same or smaller size.
When you narrow down the field, of the ten parcels she refers to, there are
only three comparable properties that meet the same criteria within the two
thousand -acre study area.
This information was available to the Hearings Officer, but she just didn't
avail herself of it. As far as setting a precedent for a similarly situated parcel
where I could affect the stability of, there are only three potential parcels that
could do that.
The other issue to consider is the land use pattern in the area. The parcel I
wish to split off meets every one of those criteria. The final test is whether it
is detrimental to agriculture; it is not about keeping open space or putting one
more house in the Gerking Valley; it's about agriculture, and that's the focus
of the ordinance. Another house is probably not only detrimental, but could
be beneficial. It would not use up valuable farmland, and will help make the
area more affordable.
It is my request then, due to the incomplete and erroneous findings, and
therefore the too conservative of an approach that was taken by the Hearings
Officer, her decision should be overturned and the applications be approved.
MINUTES of Board of Commissioners' Hearing Page 9 of 14
Wednesday, February 2, 2000
IROJ114
In testimony in three sessions of the legislature regarding land use hearings,
unsuitability and incompatibility also deal with the current farming practices
of fertilizing and other farm activities. I very much supported the right to
farm bills in two sessions. A house near an area that is haying at three a.m.
and doing similar farm things, that also is compatibility to meet, and not just
whether the piece if farmable. By putting a house in the middle of an area
that is a farm community, you have to look at this, too.
KIESOW:
People who do pick this type of dwelling will be abundantly aware of the fact
that farming will be done. There are land use laws that mitigate this. There
can be conflict between neighbors, but this can happen between two farmers
or farmers and non -farmers.
DEWOLF:
Paul, is that an accurate statement that there would be no more farm dwellings
in this area?
BLIKSTAD:
That was staff s opinion based on most of the area, which is highly irrigated.
This means that most of them are high value, which meets the $80,000
income test. Even if they are not, there's a $32,500 income test. I don't know
of too many farmers meeting that test. We just don't see it anymore.
S WEARINGEN:
Paul, could you give us a Leo Edwards decision, so we can review it. I feel
this is very similar.
SWEARINGEN: (11:45 a.m.)
I'll now open the public hearing. This is an opportunity for the public to
respond, either for or against, this particular land use decision.
RON DAVIS:
I'm Ron Davis, Associate Broker with Professional Realty Group,
representing the parties in the sale of the property. As you are making a
decision on this issue, I would like to ask that you help put some coherence
into our land use policy decisions. I would like for you, as elected
representatives of the citizens of this county, to help keep people from being
dragged through the process that they have to go through.
MINUTES of Board of Commissioners' Hearing Page 10 of 14
Wednesday, February 2, 2000
RON DAVIS:
In the Edwards case, there wasn't a single letter in opposition; you eventually
looked at the issue and said it was okay. But those people were dragged
through a rock pile of bureaucracy, taking a year and costing them thousands
of dollars; we're seeing the same thing now.
In my view, Dan Kiesow has met the criteria. The criteria needs to be such
that the public will know whether they have a chance, or is this just a big,
expensive gamble. As it is now, it appears that anything associated with a
non-farm dwelling in EFU zoned property is going to go to a public hearing.
I don't think that is in the best interest of the citizens of this county.
It takes your time, it takes a lot of money on the part of the citizen, it allows a
single emotional plea to sway the decision of a hearings officer, and it allows
the tyranny of the majority to dictate what's going to happen on a landowner's.
piece of property. It is difficult to see people go through this process. I
would like, as you are making your decision, to see if this process can be
clarified.
DEWOLF:
The part that I don't think you can expect me to do is the altering of a process
that I have no authority or ability to alter. What we're talking about in terms
of land use criteria are far beyond our authority to dictate. We can interpret
them locally the best we can, but the process is set up for a good reason, to
give people from both sides the opportunity to participate in as open a process
as possible.
It may be expensive and it may be a pain, but he can choose not to do this.
We don't require people to go through this process; they choose that. The
process, as flawed as it may be, is set up to be as fair as possible.
DAVIS:
My point is that when someone makes the application, they ought to have a
good idea of whether or not it may be approved. We have criteria in Section
18 that states the criteria to be used. I have a degree in agriculture and have
spent years on ranches, and I have worked for the Forest Service as a range
conservationist; so I have a little bit of expertise when it comes to land.
In the case of general unsuitability, this land is very rocky - worse that the
Edwards property - also, it's elevated, and the Hearings Officer did not even
make a site visit. That's where I think she really erred, because I think her
decision would have been different if she had made a site visit.
MINUTES of Board of Commissioners' Hearing Page 11 of 14
Wednesday, February 2, 2000
DEWOLF:
Even on Leo Edwards, there were three thoughtful people who really
struggled with that, and came up with a two -to -one vote, so it's not going to
be clear-cut from the beginning. That's part of the process.
DAVIS:
The other question I have is if this is not generally unsuitable for the
production of livestock and/or crops, what is? The only thing I can think of is
the side of a cliff, where a cow can't walk on or lie down. Something needs
to be done to make sure applicants don't have to go through this long,
expensive process.
Regarding the land use pattern area is a little more subjective. I think the
general unsuitability is a little more objective, but the land use pattern in the
county is something that you should be able to decide. I would like you to
consider those things as you make your decision.
LUKE:
I would like to point out to you that in the six years I was in the legislature,
the Realtors and homebuilders have all been in there supporting the saving of
farm land. That is the reason for land use in this state, the preservation of
farmland.
I don't think it is a waste of time to have these things come forward. In the
valley, they build on better ground than we've got. The purpose of land use
laws is to protect farm ground.
DAVIS:
I agree with you. And I don't think this is protecting farm ground. I would just
like to know so the people I represent will know whether this kind of thing is
going to be allowed or whether it should be removed from the criteria.
MARTIN WINCH:
I'm Martin Winch, the person who objected to this proposal in the beginning,
in front of the Hearings Officer. I would like to spend some more time than is
left in this hour, and there is at least one other person who would like to
speak. Instead of breaking that up, if we are going to continue the hearing,
can we do it all at one time.
MINUTES of Board of Commissioners' Hearing Page 12 of 14
Wednesday, February 2, 2000
S WEARINGEN:
Not a problem. If there is anyone who would like to testify at this time,
please step forward.
LUKE:
The next time we meet, are we going to allow people who haven't indicated at
this hearing that they want to testify, or will we limit it to those who are here
and ready to testify today?
BRUCE WHITE:
We can have those who want to testify sign up on a list today, and it should
be limited to them at the continuance.
RON ROBERTS:
I'm Ron Roberts, a Realtor with Rhino Ranch and Realty, and I am
representing .the prospective purchasers of the eighty acres to the west of the
subject property. They have asked me to come forward and be in agreement
with Dan's proposal.
DEWOLF:
Is it appropriate for us to make a site visit before the continuation of the
hearing? And are there any 150 -day issues?
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It is okay to visit the site during this time and submit your findings.
PAUL BLIKSTAD:
The 150 -day period is up on March 28.
SWEARINGEN:
We are continuing this hearing until next Wednesday, February 9, at 11 a.m.
The meeting is adjourned.
Those signing up to testify at the continuation were:
■ John Field
■ Steve Putnam
■ Martin Winch
THE MEETING ADJOURNED AT 12:00 NOON.
MINUTES of Board of Commissioners' Hearing Page 13 of 14
Wednesday, February 2, 2000
IT IS TO BE CONTINUED ON WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 9, 2000,
BEGINNING AT 11 A.M.
DATED this 3rd day of January 2000 by the Deschutes County Board of
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Linda L: S�arinp-en, Chair
Ddn—fiis R. LukE, Vice Chair
Tom De If, ComniWioner
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