2001-905-Minutes for Meeting December 17,2001 Recorded 12/20/2001h } r,o yt 1
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COMMISSIONERS' JOURNAL 12/20/200103:06:00 PM
Board of Commissioners
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Tom De Wolf
Dennis R. Luke
MINUTES OF PUBLIC HEARING Mike Daly
DESCHUTES COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
MONDAY, DECEMBER 17, 2001
Today's public hearing was on an application for a plan amendment and zone
change proposal regarding property adjacent to the City of Sisters (File PA-01-
4/ZC-01-4; Applicants are the Sisters School District and the Sisters Organization
of Activities and Recreation, also known as SOAR).
Present were Commissioners Tom De Wolf, Dennis R. Luke and Michael M. Daly.
Also present were Chris Schmoyer, Steve Miller and Kevin Harrison, Community
Development; Laurie Craghead, Legal Counsel; Media Representative Barney
Lerten of bendnet. com; and 12 citizens.
Chair Tom De Wolf opened the meeting at 9: 00 a.m.
Chair DeWolf then read the opening statement (copy attached as Exhibit A).
DEWOLF:
Regarding pre -hearing contacts, has any member of the Board had any pre -hearing
contacts that need to be disclosed?
LUKE:
Just that I attended a reception where the attorney for the School District was
present.
DALY:
None.
DE WOLF :
None here.
Do any members of the Board need to set forth the substance of any ex parte
observations?
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Just what was in the newspaper and the media.
DALY:
I have none.
DEWOLF:
Me, either.
Are there any challenges from the members of the audience as to bias, prejudgment
or personal interest?
None were offered.
CHRIS SCHMOYER:
The matter before you this morning is an application for a plan amendment and a
zone change to include approximately 98.2 acres inside the urban growth boundary
of the City of Sisters. The proposal includes a plan amendment and a zone change.
The plan designation currently is forest, and the zoning is F-1, forest use. The
proposed plan designation would be urban residential reserve, and the proposed
zoning would be urban area reserve, UAR-10.
The property lies west of the City of Sisters. It is adjacent to the existing high
school and the existing urban growth boundary and City limits boundary. The
applicants in this matter are the Sisters School District and the Sisters Organization
of Activities and Recreation, also known as SOAR.
The property is a portion of an approximately 260 -acre parcel, consisting of Tax
Lot 1003, and it is located on the Assessor's index map for Township 15 South,
Range 10 East. (He then referred to an oversized map at this time, indicating the
property in relation to other lots.)
The northern portion of Tax Lot 1003, which would not be included in the urban
growth boundary as part of this proposal, would be subject to a conservation
easement managed by the Deschutes Basin Land Trust.
The Hearings Officer held a public hearing on October 2, 2001, and the matter
closed on October 23, 2001. On December 7, 2001, the Hearings Officer's
decision was mailed to parties of interest.
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SCHMOYER:
The Hearings Officer approved the decision, subject to conditions of approval.
These are recommended conditions of approval, as the Hearings Officer's decision
is now final; it has to have a de novo hearing before the Board of Commissioners,
which is why we are here today.
Her conditions stipulated that the Board adopt a resolution of intent to rezone the
property, which would stipulate the City's annexation of the property, following a
favorable vote; and the City's execution of an intergovernmental agreement, which
would stipulate that the property be rezoned to public facilities and used for a
proposed school campus and recreational facilities for SOAR.
LUKE:
Would the County have to rezone that, or would it be rezoned after it is annexed?
SCHMOYER:
After the vote occurs, upon a favorable vote of annexation, the City would annex
it. They would rezone it. The zone change criteria in Title 22 include a criterion
that annexation must occur per the zone change. So we have to include that as a
part of this proposal.
CRAGHEAD:
In a sense, it's kind of an odd situation. You would have the annexation and the
County zone change at the same time the City takes over and does a zone change.
We have an annexation coupled with a zone change to a County zone, but the City
will also have to rezone.
DEWOLF:
Because we don't have the zone that they need.
SCHMOYER:
Correct. The Hearings Officer also included two additional conditions that require
the applicants to construct and/or fund certain road improvements, such as left-
hand turn lanes on Highway 242, as well as improvements to the future
intersection at Highway 20 and McKinney Butte Road. These conditions were
found necessary to show compliance with the transportation planning goal.
LUKE:
There are a lot of others who will kick into that intersection, though. There have
been discussions with ODOT on that.
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SCHMOYER:
The City of Sisters had approved a transportation system plan in June 2001, and
this intersection at McKinney Butte Road and Highway 20 is identified as a high
priority, listed as number 3. It's likely to happen soon, as funding allows.
LUKE:
Was the site of the new high school part of the campaign for the bond measure?
Did people know where it was going to be built?
SCHMOYER:
That might be a question for the applicant. I do not know.
NANCY CRAVEN:
(The attorney for the applicant.) Steve (Swisher, School Superintendent) and I will
make the presentation on behalf of the applicants, and I think we'll provide you
with a little bit of context for this. We'll also get into the procedural issues so that
we understand what you're doing and what we have pending with the City.
Steve Swisher is here with me, and Bill Reed of the School Board is also here;
David Natowski of the OEA (Office of Economic Analysis) is here if we need to
get into any of the transportation issues. Heather Wester, Chair of the School
Board, is also here; in the event you have questions for School Board members or
the School Superintendent.
We're pleased to be here with a staff recommendation for approval and the
Hearings Officer's recommendation of approval. We have, over the course of the
last several months, coordinated this application with the City and the County and
ODOT, and have resolved all issues that came up during the course of preparing
the application.
You'll see that the Hearings Officer imposed three conditions on her approval.
One, related to a transportation issue that we've working through with ODOT and
David Evans & Associates, plus the City and the County, addressed all of the
issues that came up through your transportation planner, who I believe is here this
morning, as well as the ODOT issue. So, we have come up with a contribution by
the School District for the one intersection that indicated failure as a part of the
introduction of new trips from the construction of the school.
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CRAVEN:
This is a joint application by two public entities. It proposes to bring in the 100 or
so acres that Chris Schmoyer mentioned. This is land that the School District
obtained from the County as a part of a land exchange with the Forest Service.
The County then deeded it to the School District to be used for recreation and
school purposes. So the application is not only consistent with the deed restriction,
but we have combined both the recreational entity that services the Sisters area and
the School District, and are using the land for both of those purposes.
The northern portion of the land that is under the conservation easement will
remain as is, and we are not proposing to bring it in to the urban growth boundary.
The purpose of the request is to allow the School District to have an integrated
campus for the existing high school, which will become the middle school. The
construction of the new high school and related SOAR facilities will accommodate
the planned needs for the School District and SOAR for the next twenty years.
We made a case in our application, and the Hearings Officer agreed, that the need
for these facilities has been demonstrated, and that there were no alternative sites
available within the existing urban growth boundary; also that this is the best site
outside the urban growth boundary for the project.
LUKE:
One of the things we looked at here, in Bend, when they did schools out by the old
drive-in theatre and the landfill, both of which are outside the urban growth
boundary, the case was made that over 50% of the students came from outside the
urban growth boundary. Is that the case here?
CRAVEN:
In fact it is even higher than that. Steve (Swisher) can speak to that.
Let me provide a little bit of perspective. In my view, either one of these
applicants could justify this 100 -acre expansion of the urban growth boundary of
Sisters. We have combined these applicants and have come up with a coordinated
approach for the use of that acreage through a contract between SOAR and the
School District. I think it is a benefit to both the City and the County that we've
been able to do that and do not have separate requests for these facilities.
I think the case in the application demonstrates that this part of the County and the
City of Sisters is in need not only of school facilities, but has a wholesale need of
recreational facilities. So, I think it's a good application, and I think the standards
have been met.
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CRAVEN:
What I'd like Steve to do briefly is to describe what the exact plans are for the
property, and talk about the needs of the School District.
STEVE SWISHER:
(Superintendent of the Sisters School District.) As we look at this map (referring
to an oversized map), first of all I want you to get a sense of our School District
boundaries. The boundaries go just about Fryrear Road, where the County landfill
is, and runs up to the Jefferson County line, and in a couple of places actually goes
over that line. Going west, it goes past Black Butte Ranch to just about where you
go to Camp Sherman. In the portion in Camp Sherman, Black Butte School
District sends their students grades 7 through 12 to our schools also.
As we look at the area, there are approximately 200 students who live within the
City of Sisters itself. We have about 1,100 students in our school system.
Primarily they come from surrounding areas. In fact, if you take a look at the
subject property on the map, it is just about in the geographic middle of the district.
We have current facilities of an elementary school, housing K to grade 5; it's in the
red roofed building on the right as you drive into town from Bend. The current
middle school facility is sort of a hodge-podge of buildings; that is the old brick
building that you see and the buildings behind it as you are driving from Bend into
Sisters. That particular facility was built starting in 1929 in the gym portion; the
brick building was built in 1938; a major portion in the middle was built in 1948
and remodeled in about 1984. Then there is a metal shed that currently houses
students in the building. That houses the 6th through 8th graders, and is one of the
compelling reasons why we need a new school facility. It is inadequate, both in
space, size and facilities for a school.
Our high school facility is now within the City of Sisters. That is the building that
is proposed to become the middle school, as we vacate and abandon the downtown
middle school location and move the students; and create a new high school
facility.
We also, in the industrial park area, lease a facility of about 3,000 square feet
where our alternative school and school -to -work program are found, basically
because of lack of space in other facilities, and because it is a convenient location.
Our district office facility is in a donated space in downtown Sisters. It originally
had been in the brick building, but as we converted that to a middle school, we
needed the space for classrooms.
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SWISHER:
The immediate need has to do with the fact that the middle school facility borders
are unsafe in many ways, is overcrowded, and we need to move the students from
there. We think the proposal, with the middle school and the high school, and the
allocation of future property for perhaps a second elementary school in the future
on this property, will have a great advantage in many ways as an integrated
campus. Certain tutoring programs can take place and facilities can be co -utilized
on this type of campus. This makes a lot of sense to us. Also, many of the after-
school facilities for recreation, and students who go to latchkey programs, will
benefit when SOAR is housed on that same property. It makes a lot of sense that it
is right next door.
A bond measure for a higher amount failed in November of 2000; in the spring of
2001 a reduced bond measure with reduced programming was passed. From that
point the architectural planning has proceeded through the schematic design phase,
and we are entering the final design phase. The School Board is in the process of
selecting a general contractor to work as the construction manager. We reviewed
those criteria and decided to go that way for cost savings, quality, speed and
efficiency, and we hope we can start construction this spring in order to have our
students moved by the fall of 2003.
DEWOLF:
Did the bond measure include details about the new elementary school as well?
SWISHER:
No, it did not. It is just indicated as possible future space. Our elementary school
is adequate at this time. Over time, over many years, we predict that with the
sewer infill infrastructure, we may need a second elementary school site. Right
now, it's not in the foreseeable future.
DEWOLF:
I've also heard discussions about a 600 or 700 seat performing arts facility. Was
that included in the bond measure?
SWISHER:
It was. There's a 900 -seat auditorium currently in the schematic design, which will
be part of the new high school.
LUKE:
I know the site wouldn't have been on the bond measure itself, but were there
discussions about where the new high school would be built?
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SWISHER:
On the bond literature, it described the property west of the current high school as
where the facility would be built.
CRAVEN:
We did submit as a part of our application significant data in regard to the
justification of need, alternative sites, and more. You have all that in the record,
but I'd be happy to go through it this morning if you'd like.
DEWOLF:
That's not necessary.
I don't know if you can answer this, but with Neal (Thompson) here, I do have a
question. When we were considering the Barclay Meadows and School District
issue, one of the things talked about by the City was having a comp plan done by
the fall of 2000. I still haven't seen anything, and I haven't gotten an update on
where this issue is. It seems like what we are doing is basically creating a comp
plan one land use application at a time.
CRAVEN:
Neal may be better to speak to this than I am. It's my understanding that they now
have a grant from DLCD (Department of Land Conservation and Development) for
the comp plan, and have consultants on board. I think they intend to work on it
this spring. I don't know how long it is going to take, but the plan is to move that
forward.
DEWOLF:
Do you know the timing on that, Neal?
NEAL THOMPSON:
(Planner with the City of Sisters.) What we're talking about is very frustrating to
me, also. It seems like things have to happen in order to move it forward. There's
a coordinated population forecast that needs to be done, and because of the timing
of the census we delayed work on the comprehensive plan until we knew the
census data. Now, through the County's leadership, we are going to do this
coordinated population forecast, which will then allow us to get the comp plan
completed by the fall of 2002, which is our goal.
DEWOLF:
I know that this is a crazy way to do comprehensive planning. I'm not standing in
the way of this, but it is a bit awkward.
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DEWOLF:
Is there anyone else on the proponents' side who would like to testify?
No response was received.
Do we have any opponents?
MEL BRYAN:
I'm a bit nervous; I've never done this kind of thing before, and I hope I've got
some of the protocol right. I live in Sisters.
LUKE:
We want citizens to feel comfortable.
BRYAN:
I've got a series of points, some of which go directly to the heart of the application.
The School Board repeatedly throughout their submission refers to growth in the
school, and the need to expand facilities. In the report, the application that Chris
Schmoyer has, on page 11 it states that the enrollment is 1,084, when in fact at that
time it was actually 1,008, plus 29 in the flex program. That's what their base was,
1,084 students in the district.
The district's school population is flat. In 1998, there were 1,097 kids in the
School District. Four years later it had increased by 11 students, to 1,008. So
we're not in what you'd call a boom. Our City's population was approximately 820
- I'm taking this off the street signs when you enter the City. When I moved there
in 1993,'there were 820 in the City, and today the sign says 911. This averages
about ten people per year during a national economic boom.
The applicants state that we will grow to 1,250 by the year 2005, which is on page
5 of that report. The applicants use a population of 975 in 2001, which I think is
wrong. But if they grow from 975 to 1,250 by the year 2005, we will average
about 70 people to our City per year. In the past ten years, we've only averaged
about ten people per year.
I guess an oxymoron would be a pessimistic developer. Most developers believe
that things are going to go to the moon. The application cites crowded rooms and
aggressive future growth. Our K to grade 4 population has decreased by 13% since
1998. If you compare it to the school enrollment today, it's down by 13%.
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BRYAN:
Sisters does not have a large industry or employer to attract young families, and
recent tax increases have affected many of our fixed income retirees as well as
young families. The economy locally in Sisters and the nation is poor.
The 98.4 acres in the School Board's plans are probably not a concern for you nor
important for the purpose of this hearing, because I think you are talking about just
the land as opposed to the school. But I think it is worth knowing, and I want to be
on record, that the land's use as a middle school, not a high school, becomes more
of a focus for the County, the City and the School Board. In other words, instead
of designating it for a new high school, we should do what is required, build a new
middle school. There is mere puffing about needs, growth and enrollment in the
application, and direction about the property's proposed use is needed.
Taxpayers want more realistic programs for our school's needs. The County's
growth is not being paralleled by Sisters' growth. In terms of the school's location
and the impacts on traffic flow, and the impact of having all school grades on the
same site, I think more study is needed. I think the proximity of a middle school,
and elementary school and a high school all on the same campus is a mistake.
DEWOLF:
Don't you think that this could bring opportunities for mentoring and blending of
different ages to help each other? Like we have it in La Pine?
BRYAN:
That's a definite possibility, but I think the few high schoolers who are qualified to
do that could make the half mile or mile effort to go to the other school. I just
think there are other things that occur every day on the playground.
DEWOLF:
The reason that I ask is that all of the questions you are raising are really questions
for the School Board. These questions really don't have anything to do with the
land use application that's before us. Even if you are absolutely, 100% right on all
this, if the voters have voted to build a new high school, it doesn't matter what you
and I think. That's democracy.
BRYAN:
Correct, Tom. Let me make one more point about the application in terms of the use
of the land. There's a flood plain that has flooded before, per Mr. Cliff Clemmons, a
long-time resident there. I haven't studied the flood plain, but there was apparently a
flood before, according to him. I would question whether that might happen again.
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LUKE:
What has flooded?
BRYAN:
I think it is called the Trout Lake or Trout River. I don't know the name, but there
is a flood plain that goes through part of the property.
Let me go back to this. This is probably bothering most taxpayers more than
anything. In the last vote, and this relates to the annexation and is going to be a
mess, I believe, we voted "no" 190 on the bond issue versus a "yes" of 177. There
was a 53/47 percent split at the time against the $20.5 million bond issue. Since
then that has flared up, since more numbers have come to the table. But the
growth is not there.
I'm just suggesting to you folks that the annexation should occur with a middle
school. The point about the voters voting for the bond in the last election is
correct, but before that it was turned down. It's sort of an apathy thing in the town,
and we were bludgeoned with a major advertising program and letters to the editor;
and some people had a bigger interest in this thing happening by the way they were
directing it. I think today we have a different situation. They would disapprove it
right now, I'm pretty sure of that.
In addition, I'm questioning where the money is going to come from to pay for this,
in view of the economic circumstances and the false projection of where the
growth is. Now it is a School Board issue, but it all flips back to the County. How
much investigation did the County do before the proposal was accepted, and how
does that fit into it?
DEWOLF:
It doesn't.
LUKE:
The application numbers can't be too far off, but the sewer going into the City of
Sisters should increase development there, and increase population.
BRYAN:
I would agree, except people go to where the jobs are, not because there is a sewer
there. We need industry and employment to cover the tax basis, not a sewer
system.
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LUKE:
Again, the sewer should help that, because now the industry can hook up into the
sewer. Maybe not today because of the economy, but that will change. It's hard to
do; everything is a prediction. Our population projections are based on the best
knowledge that we have.
BRYAN:
I think it was mentioned earlier that someone is going to do a population study.
We don't have the jobs in Sisters, and we are not going to have them, sewer or no
sewer. That's my opinion.
DEWOLF:
Anyone else like to speak to us this morning?
JIM MACKEY:
I'm even more nervous than he was. I don't live in the City limits; I live in an area
called Sage Meadow, which is off Camp Polk Road, north of Sisters. I'm a
relatively new resident of the area. One of the reasons I'm nervous is because I
have only recently become involved in this. My facts are sketchy, but I've had the
opportunity to participate or listen in on a couple of meetings, and I've listened to
Mr. Bryan talk, and he seems to be the only voice at this point that at least
questions this. I felt that it is important that others might speak.
By background I'm a businessman. I spent about twelve years in industrial
development in California early in my career. I have owned a couple of
businesses, and found myself in Sisters because I was familiar with Central Oregon
and it seemed to be a good place for my wife and me to retire.
All of that being said, one of the things that occurred to me as we went through the
first steps of the bond issue was the economic growth of the area, and the value of
the real estate in the area. It has literally astounded me. The growth in value of the
residential properties in the City of Sisters has increased immensely. The value of
my property has probably increased at least 50 to 60 percent during the three years
we've owned it.
LUKE:
But the taxable value can only increase by 3%.
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MACKEY:
That's correct. Having said that, the question is, as people move into the area,
where do they work? I know that what Mr. Bryan spoke of, relative to the need
and the growth in the School District, that is a part of the report prepared by staff.
In other words, if there is growth in the schools in an area, that is something you
should be interested in.
I don't see the growth, and the young people that I talk with in town all tell me that
they can't afford to live in Sisters. The areas that they might live in that are
currently included in the School District area, such as Tollgate and Crossroads, are
fairly well populated now.
The value of property has increased substantially in those areas, and the young
people moving into the area are buying either in Redmond or in portions of Bend,
and they are being employed either in the service industry in Sisters, or in industry
in Redmond or Bend. By my knowledge, there is no current plan within the City
of Sisters to expand the industrial employment base there. So the possibility
within the next several years, or five or six years, for substantial growth in
employment opportunity for young people is non-existent.
DEWOLF:
There are a couple things that I would raise. First of all, we just last year brought
in sixty acres to be used for the expansion of industrial opportunity. The flip side
of that is, I'm not sure how this is relevant to the land use application.
MACKEY:
The land use application I believe has to do with the need for additional school space.
DEWOLF:
If, in fact, you have a duly elected School Board that during their work believes
that is the case, and they put the matter before the voters and had it approved, you
may disagree with that ---
MACKEY:
No. The thing that bothers me is a point that you made earlier, and that is the
process we're using here is disjointed and kind of backwards. I understand that the
City is in the process of doing this coordinated population forecast, and I think the
demographics of that would help make decisions. I think frankly that we are
rushing to judgment here, because this is the first step of a very important set of
steps that we are going to be going through.
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MACKEY:
We passed a bond measure that does not include a number of the facilities that are
forecast on the master plan. They will need to come back and get additional
moneys for those additional facilities. My experience in these matters, as a voter
and a citizen, is this. Once the base has been set it is very difficult for the voters,
who unfortunately are generally lethargic and are not as attentive to these things as
they should be, to vote against a future bond issues that might come for the
additional facilities that will be added here.
I'm not opposed to the education of our young people. I've sat on a couple of
School Boards in my past. That's why I have difficulty even speaking here. But
the land itself that you folks have dedicated to this purpose is not going to go
anywhere. I don't believe that you would allow that land to be given to a private
purpose, so it's not like we're dealing with a private piece of property in a high
growth area, that would disappear and not be available for use by the School
District in the future.
Therefore, with the question of the growth that's happened in the last four to five
years in the Sisters area, and the demand for new school space, plus the fact that I
have had an opportunity to talk with at least a couple of School Board members
that were on the School Board in the past when the high school was built.
Unfortunately, I don't have documentation on this, which is why I am nervous. But
I understand that when the original high school was built, it was designed so that it
could be expanded. The hallways that are adjacent to the current gymnasium were
constructed in a way in which additional classrooms could be built along those
hallways to accommodate additional space.
I'm sure that the School Board probably went through all of this, but in the face of
the flat or minimum growth in the area, the fact that we haven't identified an
employment base yet for the area, it seems to me that we are rushing very quickly
to spend a lot of money in an area that is increasing in value, which is going
against the opportunity for young people to move into the area. The tax base went
up over 26% this last year, which doesn't help any young person moving in.
I had three points essentially; the growth, the transportation - which we talked about,
but as a citizen I'm not comfortable with it, knowing that the amount of transportation
that's required is heavily prevalent within the middle school, not the high school as
much. I drive by that middle school a lot, and there's a lot of access to it, and a huge
traffic problem around it. To move it to an area where there is only highway to get in
and out, without further study it seems to me it's difficult to understand.
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LUKE:
There have been substantial studies done. The Central Oregon Area Commission on
Transportation, which is all three counties, and all the cities, just went through a big
review of projects. There will be a light at the grade school area, and there will be a
light out at this other one. It's a little bit further out on ODOT's priority list because of
the lack of money. This last go -round of distributing money, and this planning process
they went through, shows it will be on ODOT's schedule within three or four years.
MACKEY:
I'm sure that is true. At the end of the day, I can't vote on this. I'm done. I don't
live in the City of Sisters. I know that the vote within the City of Sisters has been
"no". They've been against this.
DEWOLF:
This is a School District wide vote, not just the City of Sisters.
MACKEY:
I know that. But the next vote, the vote required to annex, I can't participate in and
neither can any of the other people in that extended area. I can't even mount an
opposition to that.
DEWOLF:
You can mount an opposition. You can spend $200 million if you choose to.
MACKEY:
But the vote ultimately is within the City of Sisters.
DEWOLF:
All the questions that you've raised today are either for the School Board or the
state legislature.
MACKEY:
But these issues are all in the report that you are approving.
DEWOLF:
I understand that. But the point that I'm trying to make here is that if you have
issues around decisions that the School Board is making, those are for the School
Board to consider. If you want to change the way that voting is done in this state,
that requires altering the constitution. We have no authority there. What we're
looking at is a matter for the community of Sisters to decide. The School District
on the one hand, the City residents on the other.
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DEWOLF:
I believe I am speaking for myself and both of my colleagues that we really believe
in local control. It shouldn't be the big, bad County coming in and telling you or
your School District or City the way that you ought to grow. We try to work as
well as we can with these entities. When you look back through history, people
complain that there is no planning, that nobody has any vision. Typically it is
because they don't have "my" vision, or they don't plan what "I" want to plan.
The fact is that this land has been dedicated specifically for this purpose from the
beginning, and the School Board and the school staff have done all this planning.
The conditions that are set and established by the Hearings Officer do deal with the
transportation and the commitment of dollars that the School District will have to
commit in order to answer those transportation needs. Nothing that I have heard
today is specific to the land use application that is before us.
MACKEY:
The data is inaccurate at best. The statement was just made by Dennis that the
transportation issue is not something that will happen within the next year or so.
LUKE:
The need for it is there; there's no question.
MACKEY:
I don't disagree with this. My whole point - and maybe you can't consider this - is
that I think there's a rush to judgment here. It will be three years before this
transportation thing happens. The School Board passed whatever it was at their
last meeting, that they want to turn $900,000 of the interest back to the bond, but
that was contingent upon the construction beginning in July of this year.
This school's going to be up, and the transportation problem is going to exist before
the transportation problem has been solved. The economic situation master plan
hasn't been completed yet. But yet we're building all of this. We're all planning
for something that we're not completely sure is going to happen. When you look at
the numbers that are in the report that you prepared, they aren't accurate. And
that's my concern.
I don't know that I can make a fact -based point other than the fact that there are just
too many holes in this. It seems to me that since the land is currently controlled by
the County, delaying a judgment on this for another couple of years or so, since
growth isn't going to overwhelm us, makes good sense to me.
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MACKEY:
If I were a businessman in this economic climate, and I could do that, that's what I
would do. Now I may not be able to do that as a County, and I may not be able to
do that as a governmental agency, but I had to say it. I appreciate your listening to
me.
DEWOLF:
Anyone else wish to speak?
No response was offered.
Not hearing any response, would it be our intention to continue this? Have there
been any requests to leave the record open?
CRAGHEAD:
I believe the applicant has requested the record be left open for discussion on a
couple of revisions so that I can do some review. You could leave the record open
and hold a possible hearing in mid-January. We'd do a fully noticed hearing if
necessary on a couple of the issues. Otherwise, it would be setting a date for
deliberations.
DEWOLF:
Any final comments you'd like to toss out, Nancy?
LUKE:
If the record were to stay open, if the two opponents could present some numbers
that they believe are inaccurate and have some way to show it, we would
appreciate that. You could do that in writing.
CRAVEN:
I'd like to make a couple of points, because I think it's important for you to realize
what the basis of this report was. The data that's included in our application,
specifically in regard to population, building permits and growth, comes from
Deschutes County as well as the Office of Economic Analysis. We have many
pages of documentation with regard to projected growth, not only within the City
of Sisters but also the surrounding area. Some of the information talked about this
morning relates to the population of the City of Sisters. Obviously this application
covers a lot more territory.
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CRAVEN:
Also, the coordinated population gain that occurs at the end of each decade has
nothing to do with regard to the Office of Economic Analysis data. That is a
process that the County controls with regard to the allocation of population within
the County after each census. That's what Neal was talking about today. It is
clearly very important to their comprehensive plan update, because how many
people they have relates to all sorts of things within the City.
LUKE:
And the County is also protesting the Portland State University numbers as being
too low.
CRAVEN:
But that really has nothing to do with the OEA numbers that we have included in
our application.
There will be two accesses to the property, as you know. We are going to be
paying for one of them. The traffic fix was evaluated by ODOT and by our traffic
engineers. The failure at McKinney Butte Road and the Highway does not occur
until 2013. Our commitment in this condition of approval provides for
contribution to that intersection provided that it isn't otherwise funded through all
these other means prior to 2013.
So, while there was an issue related to McKinney Butte, we obviously fixed it, and
will obviously contribute to it if necessary.
The integrated campus proposed here includes a potential future elementary
school. That was put in at the request of DLCD, so that as part of a twenty-year
planning program, this covers all potential new school facilities that the School
District might need.
The City of Sisters is working and continues to work to expand its industrial land
base, as you know. We're all involved in some cases related to the expansion of
the industrial area. They've also recently approved a new affordable housing
project. And I believe we've addressed adequately to standards that relate to this
land use case.
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CRAVEN:
I would like to have an opportunity to review some procedural issues with Laurie
that she and I talked about briefly this morning. I think it probably makes sense to
keep the record open to allow us to evaluate those issues and come back to the
Board with proposed recommendations regarding whether an additional hearing is
needed.
DEWOLF:
I guess my preference would be to leave the record open and continue this hearing
so we don't have to go through the renotice process.
CRAGHEAD:
There may be a couple of issues that require a renotice of a hearing. We'd let the
Board know that.
DEWOLF:
Then why don't we continue this to our first meeting in January, which is on
Thursday, the 3rd? We can then either close the record and close the public hearing
at that time, or continue it to a date certain.
LUKE:
What are we looking at? Is it about what is in the law?
CRAVEN:
We want to make sure that we are applying the appropriate approval criteria with
regard to County and City related issues. If we could do it until January 3, I think
we'd be ready to brief the Board on it, and decide where to go from there.
The other alternative is if you want to put it out further.
DEWOLF:
We could do it the 91h
CRAGHEAD:
That might be preferable, because of the holidays.
DEWOLF:
Why don't we do that. We'll continue the public hearing and leave the public
record open until January 9 at 10:00 a.m.
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CRAVEN:
If there is a decision made of the need to notice that hearing date, I would like to
see if we could get that done before the 91h, so that hearing could accommodate that
need.
The 9th would probably work better than the 3rd
DEWOLF:
So if anyone has any additional testimony they want to put in writing, submit that
to our Community Development Department to Chris (Schmoyer), and we'll
consider that as well.
AUDIENCE MEMBER:
Will you be taking testimony on the 9th, or just written comments?
LUKE:
The record is normally open for just written comments.
DEWOLF:
By the same token, if there are people who want to give testimony on what's been
introduced into the written record, we're pretty flexible.
CRAGHEAD:
So you'll be limiting the testimony on the 9th to the rebuttal of what was said today?
DEWOLF:
I can't say that. If we're leaving the record open, we're leaving the record open.
We can limit testimony in any way that we want at that time.
LUKE:
I really don't want to go through all of this again. I wouldn't mind leaving the
record open for written comments. Staff can give a report of any negotiations, and
depending upon what the recommendation is, if you believe that it's necessary to
leave the record open for additional written comments, that's available, too. I'm
not sure I want to go through oral testimony again.
DEWOLF:
If that would be our pleasure, we can just limit it to written testimony. This means
we would not be able to discuss this with Nancy. Nancy would have to talk with
Laurie, and Laurie would have to talk to us.
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LUKE:
Laurie can provide a report to us. Is that a problem?
CRAGHEAD:
No. I can do a report based on my analysis and discussions.
LUKE:
You guys are doing legal stuff.
CRAGHEAD:
Yes.
DEWOLF:
That has been a frustration in the past, that once we close for oral testimony, we
can't talk with these folks anymore.
CRAGHEAD:
Right. It's just a matter of a procedural issue, what we will be discussing.
DEWOLF:
Okay. So all we are going to accept is written testimony, unless we have to
renotice for new information.
Being no further testimony taken, the Board adjourned the meeting at 10: 00 a. m.
DATED this 17th of December 2001 for the Deschutes County Board of
Commissioners.
ATTEST:
Recording Secretary
Minutes of Public Hearing
Sisters School District UGB Annexation
Tom eWolf, Chair
nnis R. Luke, Commissioner
M. Daly, C6rnAissioner
Page 21 of 21 Pages
Monday, December 17, 2001
Introduction
This is a denovo hearing before the Deschutes County Board of Commissioners
following the Deschutes County Hearings Officer's findings and recommendation
on files PA -0 1 -4/ZC-0 1 -4 issued on Friday, December 7, 2001.
The applicant in this matter is requesting approval to change the plan designation
and zoning of the subject property from Forest to Urban Residential Reserve and
from Forest Use (F1) to Urban Area Reserve (UAR-10), respectively, and
approval of an exception to Statewide Planning Goal 4 to include the subject
property within the Sisters Urban Growth Boundary.
A public hearing was held by the Hearings Officer on October 2, 2001. Evidence
and testimony was received at the hearing.
Burden of proof and Applicable criteria
The applicant has the burden of proving that they are entitled to the land use
approval sought. The standards applicable to the applications are listed on the
handout provided.
Hearings Procedure
The procedures applicable to this hearing provide that the Board of County
Commissioners will hear testimony, receive evidence and consider the testimony,
evidence and information submitted into this record as well as that evidence
constituting the record before the Hearings Officer. The record as developed to
this point is available for public review at this hearing.
Testimony and evidence at this hearing must be directed toward the criteria set
forth in the notice of this hearing and listed on the handout. Testimony may be
directed to any other criteria in the comprehensive land use plan of the County or
land -use regulations which any person believes apply to this decision.
Failure on the part of any person to raise an issue, with sufficient specificity to
afford the Board of County Commissioners and parties to this proceeding an
opportunity to respond to the issue precludes, appeal to the Land Use Board of
Appeals on that issue.
Order of Presentation
The hearing will be conducted in the following order. The staff will give a
presentation of the prior proceedings and the issues raised by the Hearings
Officer. The applicant will then have an opportunity to make a presentation and
offer testimony and evidence. Opponents will then be given a chance to make a
presentation. After both proponents and opponents have made a presentation,
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the proponents will be allowed to make a rebuttal presentation. At the Board's
discretion, opponents may be recognized for a rebuttal presentation. At the
conclusion of this hearing, the staff will be afforded an opportunity to make any
closing comments. The Board may limit the time period for presentations.
Questions to and from the chair may be entertained at any time at the Board's
discretion. Cross-examination of witnesses will not be allowed. However, if any
person wishes a question be asked of any person during that person's
presentation, please direct such question to the Chair after being recognized.
The Chair is free to decide whether or not to ask such questions of the
witnesses.
Pre -hearing Contacts
I will now direct a question to the other members of the Board of County
Commissioners. If any member of the Board, including myself, has had any pre -
hearing contacts, now is the time to state the substances of those pre -hearing
contacts so that all persons present at this hearing can be fully advised of the
nature and context of those contacts and with whom contact was made. Are
there any contacts that need to be disclosed?
At this time, do any members of the Board need to set forth the substance of any
ex parte observations or facts of which this body should take notice concerning
these applications?
Any person in the audience has the right during the hearings process to rebut the
substance of any communication or observation that has been placed in the
record.
Challenges for Bias, Prejudgment, or Personal Interest
Any party prior to the commencement of the hearing may challenge the
qualifications of the Board of County Commissioners or any member thereof of
bias, prejudgment or personal interest. This challenge must be documented with
specific reasons supported by facts.
I will accept challenges now.
Should any Board member be challenged, the member may disqualify himself or
herself, withdraw from the hearing or make a statement on the record of their
capacity to hear these applications.
Hearing no challenges, I shall proceed.