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Deschutes County Board of Commissioners
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MINUTES OF MEETING
DESCHUTES COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
WEDNESDAY, MARCH 24, 2004
Commissioners' Hearing Room - Administration Building - 1130 NW Harriman St., Bend
Present were Commissioners Michael M. Daly, Tom De Wolf and Dennis R. Luke.
Also present were Mike Maier, County Administrator; Anna Johnson,
Commissioners' Office; Les Stiles, Larry Blanton, Ruth Jenkin, Mike Johnston,
Michael Takagi and several other members of the Sheriff's Office; Roger
Kryzanek, Mental Health Department; Damian Syrnyk, Catharine White and
Community Development; Mark Pilliod and Laurie Craghead, Legal Counsel;
media representative Chris Barker of the Bulletin, Barney Lerten of bend com and
The Bugle, and Jason Carr of Z-21 TV; and approximately twenty other citizens.
Chair Mike Daly opened the meeting at 10: 00 a.m.
1. Before the Board was Citizen Input.
None was offered. However, citizen Jo -Ann Ray submitted documents for the
Commissioners to review. (A copy of these documents is attached as Exhibit A.)
2. Before the Board was the Presentation of a Medal of Honor to Deputy
Michael Takagi for his Lifesaving Actions during the Davis Lake Fire.
Sheriff Stiles said that this is one of the few times this award has been given.
He then read a statement detailing the actions of Deputy Takagi that merit his
receiving the award. (A copy of the statement is attached as Exhibit B.)
(There was hearty applause from the audience)
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3. Before the Board was Consideration of Signature of Chemical Dependency
Organizational Contracts between Deschutes County and Pfeifer &
Associates (Document No. 2004-096), Central Oregon Extended Unit for
Recovery (Document No. 2004-106), Serenity Lane (Document No. 2004-
107), and BestCare Treatment Services (Document No. 2004-108).
Roger Kryzanek gave an overview of the agreements. He said that even though
the effective date was October 2003, new Legal Counsel needed to become
familiar with the master contract and also made significant changes to the
agreements to ensure consistency.
DEWOLF: Move approval of these four agreements; and, subject to legal
review, the other two CDO agreements that are not yet signed by
the providers.
LUKE: Second.
VOTE: DEWOLF: Yes.
LUKE: Yes.
DALY: Chair votes yes.
At this time Commissioner Mike Daly received a call that his mother, who has
been serious ill, had passed away, and he left the meeting.
4. Before the Board was a Public Hearing on Ordinance No. 2004-006,
Regarding Changing a Garage Setback in the La Pine Neighborhood
Planning Area.
Damian Syrnyk gave an overview of the item and the documents that had
previously been provided to the Commissioners.
Acting Chair Luke then opened the public hearing.
Brian Bergler of Pahlisch Homes testified that he supports this ordinance. He
added that they are out for bid now for infrastructure work, with building
expected to begin in September, and dwellings to be available soon thereafter.
Being no further testimony offered, Chair Luke then closed the public hearing.
DEWOLF: Move first and second reading by title only, declaring an emergency.
LUKE: Second.
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VOTE: DEWOLF: Yes.
LUKE: Acting Chair votes yes.
Acting Chair Luke then conducted the first and second readings, by title only.
DEWOLF: Move approval.
LUKE: Second.
VOTE: DEWOLF: Yes.
LUKE: Acting Chair votes yes.
5. Before the Board was Consideration of Whether to Hear an Appeal of the
Hearings Officer's Decision Denying a Verification of a Nonconforming
Use (Applicant/Property Owner. HufnagelMirschberg).
CATHARINE WHITE:
This is a request for an appeal of the Hearings Officer's denial for a non-
conforming use for a second home built on a piece of property. As a follow-up
to Monday, what I can tell you about the second home is what is in the record.
What is in the record is that we know the house was not a mobile home. We
know that a building permit was issued for a portable home. We know County
inspections were done in terms of the foundation, plumbing, electrical and
sewer, to make sure that everything was connected properly. All of these t
things are consistent with a modular prefabricated home, which is a home that
is built off-site and brought to the site and placed on a concrete foundation.
This is what the evidence in the record leads us to believe.
I did talk with the building inspector, but the information he provided me is not
a part of the record that was heard by the Hearings Officer so, on advice of
Legal Counsel, I'm not able go into that.
LUKE:
Did it have an insulation inspection?
WHITE:
I'm not sure what an insulation inspection looks like.
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DEWOLF:
It's a separate inspection, and would be checked on the inspection form. That's
a key point. If this was a pure stick -built home, you would have to have it. If it
came in as a manufactured home of some type, the insulation would be in place
and you wouldn't have that part of the inspection.
CRAGHEAD:
I would also like to remind the Commissioners that there are a couple of
different issues in deciding a non -conforming use. One is, was it legally
established. Then you have to decide the nature and extent of what was legally
established. So you may have a decision that a stick -built home was legally
established, but may not be established for anything more than a farm worker
house.
DEWOLF:
Maybe it doesn't matter, but what I want to know is, if in fact this is not a
mobile home that was brought in on wheels, and if we are torn as to whether it
was a manufactured off-site, brought in home, which would be more temporary
than a permanently built, stick frame traditional home.
The difference is, if by implication if the County went out and performed all of
these inspections on it on a traditionally stick built home, is there some
implication that we agreed that it was acceptable.
CRAGHEAD:
Your decision then would have to be, do you want to hear more evidence that
you think the Hearings Officer did not consider.
DEWOLF:
If our belief is that this is a manufactured home, that fits in with the original
criteria, which has its own implications.
LUKE:
The question is, was this an established home that they can take down and put
up another home in place. That's what they want to do. They want to take this
home out and establish one as a permanent residence.
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My understanding is that if it is a legal non -conforming use, then it can be
modified and expanded so long as there is no greater adverse impact to the
neighborhood. That would be the next step.
DEWOLF:
Let me take this down two tracks. One is, if it is a traditionally constructed
frame home and we inappropriately allowed this to be built when the condition
was that it be more temporary in nature. What I'm gathering here is that if we
were to deny this, they would have potential recourse there through Circuit
Court or what have you on that issue. And that's separate from what we are
considering today.
CRAGHEAD:
That's an avenue they may want to consider. But I believe that the applicant has
tied them together, believing that because of the fact the County may have
made an error and established it as a legal non -conforming use. They could
choose Circuit Court if they want to.
DEWOLF:
The second thing, is there a different avenue for the applicant to try to achieve
this goal? In other words, another land use process that is more appropriate,
rather than trying to make a non -conforming use where not allowed.
CRAGHEAD:
I don't believe so. There would no second dwelling allowed on this property
normally.
DEWOLF:
Or get the zone changed. How far away are they from being able to do that?
CRAGHEAD:
It would mean taking an exception to the zoning. I don't know.
WHITE:
If it were a zone change, it would probably go to MUA-10 or RR -10, and you
can still only have one dwelling.
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LUKE:
To me, if we were to hear this and found for the applicant, it would be setting
precedent that says to people that they can do things on their property that is
illegal, and if you get away with it for a certain length of time we're going to
say it is okay. Under the law, if it had been there for twenty years, we wouldn't
have been able to touch it.
CRAGBEAD:
It is entirely possible because of twenty-year limitation in State statute for non-
conforming uses.
DEWOLF:
That's the problem that I have. Logically, it tells me that they are 600 to 700
feet from the city limits, and potentially could be brought into the city soon if
the UGB is expanded. Everything changes and it comes under a whole
different set of land use regulations. I mean, you look 600 feet away and you
have neighborhoods there on small lots.
Logically, I don't have a problem with this. But our role is to interpret and
uphold the law as we see the law. It's my concern, too, the kind of precedence
that we set if we go about trying to shoehorn things in that don't follow the law.
And, from what I read here, this doesn't.
DEWOLF: I move that we do not hear this appeal.
LUKE: Second.
VOTE: DEWOLF: Yes.
LUKE: Acting Chair votes yes.
6. Before the Board was Consideration of Approval of Revised Deschutes
County Audit Committee Formation Documents.
Mike Maier stated that Internal Auditor David Givans previously presented a
draft document to the Board; the changes would incorporate more citizen
members and remove some staff members from the Committee.
DEWOLF: Move approval.
LUKE: Second.
VOTE: DEWOLF: Yes.
LUKE: Acting Chair votes yes.
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CONVENED AS THE GOVERNING BODY OF THE 9-1-1 COUNTY
SERVICE DISTRICT
7. Before the Board was Consideration of Approval of Weekly Accounts
Payable Vouchers for the 9-1-1 County Service District in the Amount of
$52,755.72 (two weeks).
DEWOLF: Move approval, subject to review.
LUKE: Second.
VOTE: DEWOLF: Yes.
LUKE: Acting Chair votes yes.
CONVENED AS THE GOVERNING BODY OF THE EXTENSION/4-11
COUNTY SERVICE DISTRICT
8. Before the Board was Consideration of Approval of Weekly Accounts
Payable Vouchers for the Extension/4-11 County Service District in the
Amount of $691.73 (two weeks).
DEWOLF: Move approval, subject to review.
LUKE: Second.
VOTE: DEWOLF: Yes.
LUKE: Acting Chair votes yes.
RECONVENED AS THE DESCHUTES COUNTY BOARD OF
COMMISSIONERS
9. Before the Board was Consideration of Approval of Weekly Accounts
Payable Vouchers for Deschutes County in the Amount of $3,301,389.56
(two weeks).
DEWOLF: Move approval, subject to review.
LUKE: Second.
VOTE: DEWOLF: Yes.
LUKE: Acting Chair votes yes.
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10. ADDITION TO THE AGENDA
Before the Board was Consideration of Signature of Document No. 2004-
126, a Revocable License between Deschutes County and the Humane
Society of Central Oregon.
Laurie Craghead stated that the Humane Society of Central Oregon wants to
break ground on its new facility as soon as possible. However, the transfer of
the property has not been completed because of the partition application that is
pending at the City of Bend. HSCO has asked that a license agreement with the
County be approved so they can begin work on the property. The document,
which holds HSCO responsible for what occurs on the property, has been
completed by Legal Counsel and is ready for the Board to consider.
DEWOLF: Move approval, subject to review.
LUKE: Second.
VOTE: DEWOLF: Yes.
LUKE: Acting Chair votes yes.
Being no further items brought before the Board, Acting Chair Luke
adjourned the meeting at 10:40 a.m.
DATED this 24th Day of March 2004 for the Deschutes County Board of
Commissioners.
ATTEST:
Recording Secretary
chael M.- Daly, Chair
Dennis R. Luke, Commissioner
Tom DeWolf, Commission
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Attachments
Exhibit A: Documents submitted by citizen Jo -Ann Ray regarding the proposed
tire pyrolysis project (8 pages)
Exhibit B: Copy of Medal of Honor Certificate awarded to Deputy Michael
Takagi (1 page)
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COMMUNITY ACTION NETWORK
24 March 2004
Deschutes County Board of Commissioners
1130 N.W. Harriman Street
Bend, Oregon 97701
Dear Commissioners:
The Community Action Network has decided to postpone the date of our invitational
speakers' seminar the Knott Landfill Pyrolysis project to allow invited parties to respond
and prepare. We will be sending you e-mail and written invitations as soon as the
location is secured.
The format of this gathering will provide both sides of this most important issue, and give
ample time for comments and questions. In addition, agencies and individuals who have
not had a forum for their input will be given an opportunity to present their concerns
and/or position on the matter.
The Community Action Network will continue to provide the Board of Commission
pertinent information at meetings and by e-mail.
Thank you.
Jo -Ann B. Ray
ExhibitIq
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Knott Landfill Concerns
We are extremely concerned about the health and welfare of the students at High Desert
Middle School. With more tires (and we've seen how well you can follow health
guidelines with regard to ricking tires, building 50' fire roads, covering them with tarps)
the possibility of mosquitoes is a real one, couple that with the bird population (West Nile
Virus is incubated in birds) and you have a real danger of a West Nile outbreak. That is
horrendous with the students on the field across the street. And that doesn't even begin
to address the fact that West Nile is 40% fatal to horses.
Years from now if our children become ill, who will be responsible to pay for their
needs? Erin Brockovich is currently testifying that students at Beverly Hills High School
have 20 to 30 times the number of cancer than the general population, as they prepare a
lawsuit against the school. They have been exposed to an operating oil well next to their
playing fields. What guarantees can you give us that our children will not develop
serious illnesses because they exercised on the High Desert Middle School playing field
across the street from your "Demonstration Project"?
Will we see results of a consultation with OSHA on procedures and process? IRR will be
long gone if contamination results in illness for any employees of the Landfill, Disposal
Truck Drivers, IRR employees or resident users of the Landfill, OR the 800 students and
numerous staff at High Desert Middle School become ill or die as a result of undisclosed
contamination by "char" or pyrolytic oil, not to mention hazardous cleaning materials
such as toluene or benzene, which are listed in your 1996/1997 manuals for the BEVEN
TP 2000.
How does the "char" get from the retort into the bags? How is the "char" going to be
prevented from flying out of the building? How are you going to clean the inside of the
building when the experiment is over or fails? Who pays?
You are proposing a chemical manufacturing plant be built on our Landfill. You aren't a
"recycling" operation, as nothing in your process can currently be recycled. All "char" is
slated for the Landfill, and the pyrolytic oil (which IS NOT the same as home heating oil,
but has three times the sulfur content and is not refined enough for house heating
purposes) will be hauled off by the company that currently takes waste oil from the
Landfill. All potential income producing streams are to be given away or buried in the
Knott Landfill.
Why are the MSDS sheets not filed with the Deschutes County Fire Marshall (Gary
Marshall)? All toxic/hazardous materials must be listed, both consumable and by-
products. I would like to hear from the Fire Marshall about the hazards to life and the
environment.
Who is providing your 1,000-2500 gallon oil tank, and has it been approved by the Fire
Marshall?
Exhibit A
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Where will the rest of the oil be stored? If you pyrolyze 300 tires per day, you will
produce 750 gallons of oil per day. Your tank will be overflowing in two days! Please
explain the process of reducing the oil.
How will the oil be transferred from the retort to tank to truck? What kind of contract has
been signed with what trucking company? And are they licensed to transport flammable
material? What route will they take?
Since this system was never housed in a building, have you applied for a permit for the
structure from the Fire Department? Planning Commission? Is the machinery itself
certified by all necessary agencies and departments for operation in the US? Oregon?
As part of maintenance, you will have to clean the scrubbers. How is this done? Where
do the contaminants go? What kind of solvents will be used for this cleaning?
Why is an environmental impact study by the EPA not required?
Since IRR,LLC does not plan to recycle any of the by-products during this test year, how
does Deschutes County benefit from your GRAND DEMONSTRATION project? We
now haul our tires to Crook County (none end up in our Landfills) how does turning them
into two unmarketable and very toxic materials (and unprofitable scrap steel at $5/ton)
benefit the taxpayer? More goes into the landfill at what we think will be a greater cost!
If this is such a great process, why, in the 20 or more years since its first appearance and
75 or more "demonstration projects" in the U.S. alone, is there not ONE commercially
viable plant operating anywhere in the world today?
An example, verified by the DEQ in Oregon, having the same by-products (oil, "char"
and steel), operated in Multnomah County from '92-'94. Although it used a
"gasification" process, and chipped tires, the end products were the same as pyrolysis.
When the site was abandoned by the RMAC International company, they left a
$1,300,000 clean-up for the DEQ and the County... and that didn't even clean up the soil;
it just removed the tires, tire chips, "char" and oil left behind. The site is unusable
today...
We read about another plant in VA, but that turned out to have gone bankrupt and was
dismantled over 14 years ago. This was verified by VA DEQ, by a Mr. Lassiter, who is
Ms. Guililand's counterpart in that state.
IRR's claim that the "Belgian" process of milling the "char" isn't operating in Norway or
Finland (since IRR can't get its position quite together), but is going to be presented in
Europe later this month, according to its inventor, Mr. Fader. It may be years away from
being built, and "demonstrated" successfully in Europe, before it can be imported to the
U. S. And I don't think Bend is the place for that demonstration either.
Exhibit
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How will your employees be outfitted? Will they have to wear respirators? Safety
clothing? How will they clean up when they are finished working?
Because we haven't seen a cost analysis of the plant, reasonably written safety,
maintenance or process manuals (and we'll have to sign a secrecy agreement if we are
one of the chosen to see them), we cannot endorse this project. We won't subject our
children to something we can't verify.
IRR has never shown that they have built or operated a successful pyrolytic tire plant.
How do we know you have the scientific or engineering background to handle the
inevitable upsets and breakdowns that are historically problems with pyrolytic tire plants?
Why is the assumption that there will be no dioxins or PCBs a reasonable one? Oxygen
can be present in the tires, can leach into the system from a variety of openings for probes
and hoses, thermocouples etc. All it needs is chlorine to produce high levels of dioxin
and PCBs. Since there will be no testing for either, why is it reasonable to assume they
won't be produced?"
We witnessed the illegal stockpiling of tires (12,000) when the allowed amount was
2000. The petition for more tires includes being responsible to rick the tires, build fire
lanes and protect against water standing in the tires (which would provide a ripe breeding
ground for mosquitoes, and with West Nile Virus on its way to the Northwest, especially
in the ranch area around the Landfill, horses will be at risk, not to mention the 800
students at the High Desert Middle School! With the birds that gather at the landfill it
makes the risk of West Nile that much Greater!) None of these precautions was taken
during the 6 months of non-compliance on the number of tires at the landfill.
The only conclusion we can draw from all of this is that this is possibly the worst idea
this County has ever seriously considered.
Jo -Ann B. Ray
Community Action Network
http://www.bendcan.com
j oannray(ir),b e ndnet. com
Exhibit
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Michael Blumenthal, March 3, 2004
Rubber Manufacturers Association
1400 K Street, NW, Suite 900
Washington, D.C. 20005
The simple fact is that no scrap tires are being pyrolyzed in the United States on a production
basis. There have indeed been several sites where people are testing or developing their
technologies. And there are research sites, primarily at universities, where tire rubber is being
pyrolyzed. But none of these add up to any significant or indeed recordable volume, and none of
the sites are being operated on a production basis. In Pennsylvania the former de Beers facility in
Wind Gap, PA did operate at one time, but has been essentially shut down for several years. In
the meantime, it has been bought and sold several times by various promoters who appeared to
believe that there was a viable market in selling pyrolysis operations. Understand that is selling
pyrolysis operations, not in pyrolyzing tires. I understand that the most recent attempt to restart it
was halted when a workman was killed in an explosion.
It is likely true that the ultimate success of any pyrolysis operation is not in the process of
pyrolyzing tires; rather it is in the ability to market the end products, the gaseous and liquid
fractions and the solid carbonaceous char. It is a simple matter of due diligence to ask any
marketer of pyrolysis technology where he sells his by-products; ask to see the contracts he has
and visit the customers he has for the oil fraction and the char fraction. Do not rely on simple
statements that these products "can be sold to ..."; ask for the proof.
The lure of the pyrolysis option has been around for several years, at least since the oil shocks of
the early 1970's. Indeed, two tire companies undertook extensive research on pyrolysis and
came away both having extended the range of knowledge about the process and having reached
conclusions that pyrolysis held little prospect for being a significant technology for managing
scrap tires.
One should also recall that pyrolysis as a technology has been tested with several other organic
materials. I believe that there was a major government funded demonstration project to pyrolyze
municipal solid waste ["garbage"]. When that project was a complete failure, the issue was not
heard from again as a strategy to deal with MSW. In the plastics field, the American Plastic
Council conducted extensive testing of pyrolysis of plastics, only to conclude that it was not
economically feasible to use pyrolysis to manage scrap plastics.
Only with tires do we see the fairly regular infatuation with pyrolysis. About every 5 years, a
new group of "developers" appears on the scene promoting pyrolysis technology, some of it new,
some of it from the last go -round.
If one of these promoters succeeds is bringing his risky scheme to fruition, and demonstrates an
economically sound end use or uses for the byproducts, and within an economic structure that
can be competitive with existing scrap tire options, then more power to him.
If there comes a time when this happens, and scrap tires are being pyrolyzed on a production
basis, we will report the data.
Exhibit A
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Other issues to address: What are the economics of your situation? Taking in 50,000 tires a year
will yield slightly less than $50,000 in revenue; what are the annualized costs to build/operate
this facility? What will the company receive in revenue for the by-products less the costs of
shipping? How much does virgin and off -spec carbon black sell for? What is their price?
Community Action Network http://www.bendcan.com
Exhibit
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March 22, 2004
The fact this company does not have contracts for the by-products should be the central reason
that their request for a permit be denied. The denial is not a function of the fact that this is a
pyrolysis facility. It is a function of the fact that they do not have markets for their end products. It
is also common for regulating agencies to deny permits for tire processing operations, any tire
processing operation, until/unless they have contracts for the processed tires they take in. The
rationale is that without these markets/contracts, tires will come into the facility but will have no
where to go. The facility would take in tires until they reached their permitted limit, then would
have to stop taking in tires or close (violation of the permit conditions). History has indicated that
such a scenario usually ends up with an abandoned scrap tire pile. Consequently, regulators
must be shown that the tires that come in will indeed go out as a finished product.
Further to this point, if the company is stating that they will land dispose the carbon char, the
entire reason for this operation to be in existence must be questioned. The major problem with
this technology has been the inability to be operated on an economically viable manner. In
general, any scrap tire processing operation would be paid to take in whole scrap tires (a tip fee).
The tip fee is typically used to cover the costs of handling/processing the tire into whatever by-
product stream for which the facility is designed. Real economic viability is a function of the
companies ability to sell the products they make. For any operation to be successful these
materials must be sold for a price that will cover the companies costs to produce/handle/transport
the products in question. In other words, make a profit. If this proposed operation is stating that
they will be land disposing a significant percentage of their by-product stream, then the remaining
materials must be sold at an even higher amount, or the facility would probably operate at a loss.
Selling your materials where you sustain a loss on all materials sold is not the description of a
company that will be long in business.
I must also question the statement about landfilling the carbon char based on their statement that
this material is pure carbon. If it is that pure, why landfill it? But the statement that this material is
pure carbon is misleading. The carbon char generated from a pyrolytic operation is certainly high
in carbon, and it is certainly black. But by definition it is not carbon black (as defined by ASTM).
There is typically a considerable amount of ash in this char, as well as any/all solids that were
used in the manufacturing of the tires that were pyrolyzed.
Have there been pyrolytic operations permitted/operated in the United States. Yes, there have
been several. However, none were operated on a commercially viable basis and all closed in a
matter of months.
In Oregon scrap tires are used a fuel (tire -derived fuel) in a cement kiln. Ground rubber (finely
processed particles of rubber) are used by several companies to manufacture new products.
Finally, tires are shredded and used in civil engineering applications (tires used in lieu of
conventional construction materials --sand, dust, etc.). In the case of Bend, Oregon, I would
suggest civil engineering applications (tires shreds used in landfill construction) as a
reasonable/viable use of the tires available in your area.
Exhibit
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Your question concerning the temperature at which tires burn; tires will burn at 1202 F (mostly
smoke) and will auto -ignite at 1800 F. Once a tire catches fire, they are very difficult to extinguish.
Burying the tire with dirt might extinguish a single tire. If there is a pile of tires, covering them with
dirt would create a pyrolytic condition where an oil -like material would ultimately ooze from the
pile. This is a most undesirable condition.
In conclusion let me state that a pyrolytic operation, like any proposed scrap tire operation, must
demonstrate the ability to sell the by-products they produce in a manner that will ensure their
economic viability. If this can not be demonstrated, all permits should be denied until such a time
when they can do so. There have been too many examples where a company's good intention
has left a community an abandoned pile of scrap tires.
Michael Blumenthal
Senior Technical Director
Rubber Manufacturers Association
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