26-282-Minutes for Meeting December 07,1977 Recorded 12/7/1977V R.
December 7, 1977
Courtday Minutes
Courthouse Annex
Attendance:
Bob Montgomery
Abe Young
Don Grubb
Dave Hoerning
Bill McCann
Clay & Ruth Edwards
Robert & Theo Herwick
Grace Saunders
Isabelle Crocker
Margaret McDonald
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John J. Killen
Nora Bell
Eileen Donaldson
Ethel M. Sebastian
Jack B. Thornton
Marla Rae
Gary DeBernardi
Allen Abbey
Lucai Venator, Secretary
Chairman Montgomery called the meeting to order at 10:00 a.m. First order of business
was the cont'd hearing on the vacation of streets in LaPine. Dave Hoerning said it
was necessary to continue this matter until January because the parties involved are in the
East and cannot sign the deed necessary to close this transaction. Chairman Montgomery
closed the hearing. Commissioner Young moved they postpone this matter until the
January 4, 1978 Courtday. Commissioner Grubb seconded the motion. Vote was unanimous.
There was no discussion on Road Department or General Fund bills.
Scheduled next on the agenda was the appointment of Harry Baker to Special Road District
No. 1 Board. He was recommended by outgoing board member Jack Broadley. Commissioner
Grubb moved they appoint Mr. Baker to a three year term on the board. Commissioner
Young seconded the motion. Vote was unanimous. Mr. Baker's term will expire December
31, 1980.
At this time the Commission set aside the agenda to hear from representatives of the
Bus Committee who are soliciting financial assistance from the county to expand their
Dial a Ride bus service outside the city limits. Eileen Donaldson told the Commission
she had gone to the city for budget figures so they could come up with a proposed
budget to present to the count. They would not give her any figures. All she could
come up with was a salary of $423.00 per month for the bus driver. She asked the County
Commission if they would be responsive to a joint meeting of the Citizens Bus Comm-
itee, the City Commission and themselves. The Commissioners told her to set one up
at their convenience and the County Commissioners would make themselves available at
the time they choose.
Next was discussion on Pollution Control Bonds. Chairman Montgomery explained that
the State had given local authorities permission to issue local bonds for pollution
control. The county would guarantee the bonds. Commissioner Young said there would
be no risk to the county. The applicants for these bonds will have to provide evidence
that their net worth is no less that three times the cost of the pollution control
facility. Commissioner Grubb supports the pollution control bonds also. Commissioner
Young moved to adopt the Pollution Control Bond Resolution. Commissioner Grubb
seconded the motion. Vote was unanimous.
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The vacation of an unnamed road in Section 13, T17S, R12 EWM near Three Pine and
Gentry Roads was brought up next. Commissioner Grubb moved that January 18, 1978
be set as the public hearing on this street vacation. Commissioner Young seconded
the motion. Vote was unanimous.
Presented next was a vacation for Weston Street as petitioned by Keith Cyrus and
35 other petitioners. The Commission asked Dave if he could explain where Weston
Road was. He said he was not aware of this street vacation. Because Dave was not
informed of this vacation, Commissioner Young moved they postpone this matter until
a later date. Commissioner Grubb seconded the motion. Dave told them it was not
necessary to postpone this matter because the resolution was to set a public hearing
on the matter Janaury 18 and this would be ample time to investigate. All Commissioners
voted no on the postponement. Dave finally recalled this road in the Cloverdale area.
He went on to explain it was an old road and a subdivision had been platted over the
road making the vacation necessary. Commissioner Grubb moved they set January 18,
1977 as the public hearing on this vacation. Commissioner Young seconded the motion.
Vote was unanimous.
At this time Dave Hoerning brought up the matter of establishing 19 roads within
Romaine Village as county roads. These roads have been constructed for over 12
months and have met county standards. The roads are: Cinder Lane, Mahagany Street,
Driftwood Lane, Crystal Lane, Terrace Lane, Sugarbush Lane, Aspen Drive, Aspen Lane,
Alpine Drive, Alpine Lane, Arrowwood Drive, Arrow Lane, Wood Lane, Duke Lane, Tara
Lane, Melody Lane, Lodgepole Drive, Wedgewood Drive and Asford Drive. Commissioner
Young made a motion that January 18, 1978 be set as the public hearing on these
street establishments. Commissioner Grubb seconded the motion. Vote was unanimous.
Chairman Montgomery read an agreement between Deschutes County and the Deschutes
County Humane Society. Commissioner Young said this agreement is similar to ones
the Humane Society has with the cities of Bend and Redmond. The agreement covers
charges for the care and/or disposal of dogs lodged by the county that have been
picked up by Dog Control. Commissioner Young moved the county forward the agreement
to the Humane Society for their acceptance. Commissioner Grubb seconded. Vote was
unanimous.
Commissioner Young presented a Dog License Fee Agreement which needs to be approved
by the county and the city of Bend. The county has had agreements to this affect
in the past. Mr. Young went on to say that until October 1977 the county has had to
reimburse 80% of dog license fees to the city. The law has changed and the 80% is
no longer mandatory. The new agreement is basically the same as in the past. Only
the percentage has been changed to 70% reimbursement of dog license tags. The
county has been paying the cities share of the cost of the dog tags. Chairman
Montgomery moved this agreement be sent to the city of Bend for their approval.
Commissioner Young seconded. Vote was unanimous.
Under open discussion, Commissioner Grubb told the audience that several county
officials and himself have been traveling throughout the state for the past six
months looking into computer systems for Deschutes County. Ross Brown, DP Manager
made a formal presentation. He noted that Applied Theory Associates, Computer
Management Services, Inc., Data General, IBM and National Cash Register presented
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bids on a system for Deschutes County. Hardware bids were as follows: ATA for a
Hewlett-Packard Computer $97,600; CMSI, Microdata $108,245; Data General, $120,710;
IBM upgrade present System 3, $125,000; IBM new system, $191,072; National Cash
Register $76,130; CMSI software proposal $75,000 plus $7,000 for data captive and
implementation. Ross Brown recommends the CMSI system with a total bid of $190,245.
He feels this system is the best one to handle the needs of Deschutes County. Chairman
Montgomery asked Assessor Ray Bennett how many accounts did Deschutes County have two years
ago? Ray answered 45,000 and today we have about 50,000. Bob asked why three years
ago the present equipment would have been sufficient and now they are asking for a
$190,000 system when we have only added 5,000 new accounts. Ross Brown said that
three years ago their estimates were way low. Bob asked if the officials in traveling
to check out computer systems did they do any looking in the County? Ross Brown said
yes that Brooks Scanlon had a machine large enough for our use but there have been no
formal talks on renting their machine for Deschutes County's needs. Commissioner Grubb
told the audience that our present System 3 is 7 years old and operating at its capacity.
This is an old system as computers go and it is difficult to modify. Data Processing
can put everything we now have and the Library on a new system. Commissioner Grubb
compared an antiquated Ford to a new Buick to describe the difference in our present system
and the CMSI system. He further stated that Polk County spends $50,000 a year to rent
computer needs. He feels it would be better to buy than to rent and he also favors
the CMSI system. Commissioner Young told the audience the county has been trying for
years to get the Assessor's office computerized. Had they been able to do this 5-6
years ago it would have been much cheaper. The county has until December 15 to place
this order with CMSI. Ross feels if the Commission would like more time to make a
decision, a 7 day delay until December 21 would be acceptable. If the county decides
to make this move now, the computers need to be ordered so they will arrive in time
to get the Assessor on before the fall roll. Chariman Montgomery feels the public
needs more answers on where the money is coming from before the Commission makes a final
decision on this matter. Ray Bennett again expressed his concern that the present
equipment could not do a good job and their office will have to replace one or two
machines if the computer is not purchased. He feels a computer will provide efficiency
in retrieving material and eliminating human error. He also likes the CMSI system
best. Commissioner Grubb feels in a cost comparison, this cost is not excessive. The
money will come from our Revenue Sharing Fund. The Commissioners set December 21,
Courtday as the time for their decision on this matter.
Commissioner Grubb read a statement on Deschutes County's Land Use Planning Position.
Deschutes County's stand is to address statewide goals in all planning decisions; present
findings of fact concerning the goals; application of the goals must be made on a case-
by-case basis and the burden will be on the applicant to show compliance with the goals.
The county also request that Fish and Wildlife present the county with a plan for furture
compliance with LCDC Goal No. 5 future consideration of subdivision approvals
so the county will have a guideline to follow. Chairman Montgomery moved they adopt
this poisiton. Commissioner Young seconded the motion. Vote was unanimous. The
Commission thanked Deputy DA, Bill McCann for his work on this project.
Commissioner Young told the audience that contrary to what was in the paper, Deschutes
County did not apply to the EDA to form a Port District. This move is being made by
the EDA and concerned businessmen. The Commission passed a Resolution whereby they
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supported putting the matter of a Port District to a vote of the people. They did
not go on record as supporting such a district. Abe requested that anyone having
any questions on this matter contact the Commissioners office and they will attempt
to give them the correct information concerning a Port District.
Commissioner Young mentioned that they had agreed to set down with Fish and Wildlife
and now they have heard that 1000 Friends of Oregon recommended to Fish and Wildlife
that they do not meet with the Commissioners. Abe feels this is ridiculous. The
county cannot work out problems if these people refuse to work with the Commissioners.
Abe added that through November 21, 1977, Beverly Hall, from the Attorney General's
office, has been paid for 111.2 hours at $35.72 per hour for defense of the Fish and
Wildlife case against Deschutes County. That is a total of $3972.06 of our tax
dollars spent by the state for this case.
Commissioner Grubb feels the county by their resolution, has once again opened the
door to talks with Fish and Wildlife to resolve planning problems in Deschutes County
and hopes they will respond.
There being no further business or discussion, meeting was recessed at 11:20 a.m.
Respectfully submitted,
COM S ONER