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❑ Deschutes County Board of Commissioners
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MINUTES OF PUBLIC HEARING
DESCHUTES COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
TUESDAY, MARCH 13, 2007
La Pine High School Auditorium, La Pine, Oregon
Present were Commissioners Michael M. Daly, Dennis R. Luke and Tammy Baney.
Also present were Dave Kanner, County Administrator; Laurie Craghead, Legal
Counsel; Tom Anderson, Barbara Rich, Sandy Ringer, Sher Buckner, Todd
Cleveland, Peter Gutowsky and Dan Haldeman of Community Development; Dan
Peddycord, Health Department; Joe Studer, County Forester; Dave Morgan and
Steve Hinkle, USGS.; Connie Thomas and Bonnie Baker, Commissioners' Office;
and approximately six hundred citizens, including several representatives of the
media.
The purpose of the meeting was to discuss and to take public input relating to a
proposed local rule regarding La Pine Groundwater and Wastewater Systems
Issues.
Chair Michael Daly opened the meeting at 6:10 p.m. He explained the meeting
would start with an introduction of staff and a staff report; and to keep in mind that
even if someone has heard some of the information previously, many people have
not, and everyone needs to listen and learn, including the Commissioners.
He then read the preliminary statement to the audience. (A copy is attached as
Exhibit A.)
He noted that there would not be enough time in the evening to let everyone
testify, because the building needs to be vacated by 9:00 p.m., but the Board will
be having at least one more hearing in La Pine. (Audience booing; out of control
and shouting.)
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After the audience quieted, in regard to the opening statement concerning bias,
conflict of interest or prejudgment, all three Commissioners stated they had none.
Commissioner Daly asked if there were any challenges from the audience in this
regard.
Citizen Tony Borba asked if what he read in the Bulletin is correct; observing that
the article tried to make La Pine look bad. Commissioner Luke said that this is a
legislative process; in a land use issue, the Commissioners can't talk to outside
persons, but in legislative issues, the Commissioners can consider all input, letters,
e-mails and other testimony. He said what is written in the Bulletin does not create
bias for him, and he has no control over what the Bulletin publishes.
Commissioner Daly stated that they all read newspapers, and get lots of e-mail
messages, but try to keep an open mind. Commissioner Baney said that she
doesn't think she has read all that has been written in the Bulletin.
Citizen Bill Wells stated: I have been a La Pine resident for about seventeen years,
and feel the challenge is to the Constitution of the United States. I fought for and
was wounded for it. It makes citizens secure in all lands, property and papers. I
challenge you, Commissioner Daly, as no one has a right without an overall vote to
pull something like this on South County citizens. What about Redmond, Bend,
Madras and the others. I live in La Pine and don't like you worth a darn. I will try
to get every veteran in town to try to get you removed from office or beat this
project.
(Shouting, disorderly audience.)
No other challenges were offered.
Commissioner Daly said that the agenda states that staff will give a report and a
little history of this issue, and then the audience will hear from the USGS
scientists. Then there will be a cost comparison summary provided, information
on public outreach, and an overview of the financial aspects.
(Shouting and booing.)
Commissioner Daly asked the audience to please be more professional and polite.
(More shouting and booing.)
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Commissioner Daly said that the meeting can't proceed if people won't act more
professional, and that everyone needs to hear about the studies. There should be a
form on each seat for people to write down their specific questions, which will be
addressed later in the meeting as time allows.
Unidentified woman: (To the crowd.) Please be polite and listen to the
Commissioners and each other.
Commissioner Daly stated that they will let Mr. Churchill speak, as he has some
questions and seems to represent some of the other citizens, and has stated that he
is not biased toward the issue at all and has some concerns to talk about that others
may have as well. There will be another meeting next week, and possibly the
following week if needed, to obtain public input.
At this time, County staff was introduced. Commissioner Daly thanked everyone
for coming, and encouraged everyone to remember why they are here, out of
concern for the groundwater, which is the sole source of drinking water in southern
Deschutes County.
Barbara Rich gave a report on the environmental health aspect of the process, and
said she had updated packets with the latest group of comments. (Exhibit B.)
She then proceeded with a PowerPoint presentation, beginning with a history of the
issue. (A copy is attached as Exhibits J & K.)
(Audience shouting and chatter: We want our questions answered. We've heard all
this before.)
Commissioner Daly asked that staff be allowed to proceed and concentrate on this
for everyone's benefit.
An audience member asked about the DEQ applying nitrate data, and whether
there is a choice of manufacturer, and how the manufacturers apply to do this work
in Oregon.
Ms. Rich asked that she be able to proceed with the presentation, which may
answer some of the concerns and questions.
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After Ms. Rich's portion, the presentation continued with the work done by the
USGS. Steve Hinkle and Dave Morgan spoke about the studies that had been done
and the results of those studies.
They explained that the results of the studies have been published in reports and
articles that have received extensive review. Paper copies and links to the reports
are available.
An audience member asked what nitrogen and nitrates are. Mr. Hinkle said that
nitrogen is an element, and nitrate is one form of nitrogen. The EPA regulates it as
a carcinogen and is concerned about it. The State also governs this issue. Nitrates
are oxidized out of septic tank effluent, and then flow to the water table and the
aquifer. He added that right now the water is good for the most part, relative to
EPA standards. But with the fast growth in population and a smaller seasonal
population, aging septic systems and increasing sources of nitrate contamination, it
has become a big concern. He said that even if the nitrogen loading was stopped
immediately, what is already there is moving towards the aquifer, wells and rivers.
An audience member asked what nitrates do to people. Commissioner Luke
replied that information is coming soon.
(Audience shouting, booing, stating: we heard all this before.)
Commissioner Daly said that there are some people in the audience who may have
not heard this information previously, and to please be respectful.
(Audience shouting, we want to talk, we've heard this before. Woman: they are
feeding us this crap, this is their last ditch effort to make us do this.)
Commissioner Daly asked that the meeting stay under control.
(Audience shouting; same woman shouting, acting extremely rude.)
Citizen Vic Russell asked the audience to please be quiet. He said he doesn't have
enough information to make a good decision, and everyone needs more facts.
Everyone needs to learn, and they all need to hear this. A decision won't be made
tonight; please listen and be courteous.
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Commissioner Daly asked that they all please listen and allow a little more time to
get through the information.
Steve Hinkle gave a summary of the scientific information. Dave Morgan then
gave an overview of the hydrology portion, with maps of the water table and how
the water flows and discharges. He explained how much research had been done
and the results of that research, which began in 1960. The various scenarios
examined over the years were explained.
He said that there are tons of nitrates moving within the aquifer, and will remain
there until getting to a waterway. It moves very slowly. When build-out occurs,
the amount of nitrates will be substantially over what DEQ allows and deems
acceptable.
(An audience member shouted, people will decide not to come here.)
(Shouting and chatter from audience.)
Mr. Morgan explained that much depends on the ground water flows based on soil
thickness and the number of homes. Using new systems only for new homes will
not address the problem; there still needs to be reductions from existing homes.
And some areas will need to reduce more than others. This type of pollution is not
sustainable; eventually the drinking water won't be viable, and streams will be
negatively impacted.
(Applause from the audience.)
At this time, Ms. Rich went over the cost comparisons and the range of costs based
on the system and the location. When asked about a sewer system, she said it costs
residents of the City of Bend $28,000 to connect, with a $22 monthly service fee.
The average cost for Oregon Water Wonderland was $11,500. The cost of
upgrading is much less.
She detailed the number of meetings and hearings held over the past few years.
Tom Anderson explained that the County is committed to solving the groundwater
issue in order to protect the drinking water. The County has the means to generate
a large amount of funds for retrofits, through grants and other sources.
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The highest priority is to help those people with the least ability to pay.
Demographics from the 2000 census were studied, and show that some people in
La Pine are below the poverty line, while others are on a fixed income. To the
extent possible, the County would like to help everyone, if there are enough funds
available, including assistance with operations and maintenance. The County may
be able to buy some systems in bulk to bring down the cost of each unit.
He said a handout was provided at the entrance with more detail. The analysis
began with a look at the average cost, from high to low, based on the number of
systems needing to be retrofit. This amount came out to $65 million. After
introducing the ages of the systems, it was determined that the newer ones might
just require an add-on unit. This brought the amount down to about $43 million.
If the proposed rule is adopted, there are a lot of variables depending on the site
and the system. Much of the funding to assist the retrofits would come from the
New Neighborhood area, of which there are 300 acres left uncommitted. There are
other funding sources tied to this program. There is also grant money left over
from a previous grant and an earmarked grant. The sum total of funds available is
conservatively about $35 million, which is not that far off from the $43 million.
(An unidentified man said, saying you can't get a discount is crap.)
Mr. Anderson stated that the basic assistance is listed on the handout. An outright
grant is the simplest, and would be based on those who are most in need. No
repayment would be required. The second is the cost deferral program, which is
similar to a local improvement district. Property is liened, and payments can be
made if wanted, but there would be no repayment necessary until the property
changes hands -
A woman interrupted, shouting that it sounds like a done deal to her, that it has
already been decided.
Mr. Anderson replied that is just his semantics; no decision has been made and
nothing has been adopted.
Another program would be a more conventional type, with financing available at a
low interest rate. Another alternative is possibly a bulk purchase of systems, with
the savings to be passed on to the property owners.
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The other issues are operations and maintenance. The Board has stated that if it
passes, the County would be able to provide assistance; not necessarily through up-
front costs but at the back end with certified maintenance providers for some
properties and systems. The point is, assistance would be part of the package. A
third party administrator, possibly as a non-profit entity, could oversee this
process; the County would not administer the program. There could be incentives
for residents to do the work earlier. The timing of repayment could be at the time
of sale or remodel of the property. If there are leftover funds, a future Board
would have to decide how to allocate it.
Commissioner Daly asked if Mr. Churchill was in attendance, since he had specific
questions.
Jason Churchill of Orenco Systems then spoke. He stated: I was recently accused
of having a direct economic benefit regarding the nitrate toxicity issue, since
Orenco products have been approved for this use. Orenco would only benefit by
adoption of a local rule. Therefore, I have no incentive to question as to whether
the issue of nitrates is overblown. There is some common ground; there are a
number of wells in the area that have high nitrate concentrations; they need to find
out why and find a solution to the problem.
An audience member shouted, don't just talk about technical details; what area has
this problem?
(The audience again became unruly at this point.)
Commissioner Daly asked that the audience please give Mr. Churchill his time.
Mr. Churchill said he is not questioning that nitrates accumulate. It is a
complicated matter. He is questioning whether the equilibrium exaggerates the
expected end point concentrations. The degree observed in wells may not reflect
the aquifer or the local nitrate hot spots.
He said that a fact sheet from the County Health Department was passed around
regarding health effects. The most common health issue is the blue baby
syndrome. He asked what this is based on, since his review says there is not a lot
of conclusive evidence supporting this idea.
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Dan Peddycord, Health Department Director addressed this question. He said:
Okay, what is all the fuss about. This is a natural component in food. Health
experts are more concerned about what is in the water, as this can be controlled.
Nitrates are absorbed through the small intestine, and babies' systems are not
equipped enough to handle it. This can happen to anyone, but babies and young
children end up with higher acidity, as do people with gastric reflux disease when
their system is too acidic. The flora isn't present in their system enough to convert
the nitrates, which bind to hemoglobin so that oxygen doesn't get to tissues and
organs. That's why blue babies look that way; they are slowly suffocating. There
haven't been many deaths yet, primarily due to high EPA standards regarding
nitrates. Is it wise to set a standard for drinking water? Yes. You need to get it
out of the water.
Mr. Churchill stated that in his opinion this is a theory and not a fact, and that a
cause in drinking water may be because of bacteria or viruses due to fecal
contamination, with the high nitrates being coincidental. Infants involved often
have bacterial gastroenteritis.
Mr. Peddycord said that in order for nitrates to bind to hemoglobin, there has to be
nitrates present. This is not controversial in accepted medical literature. The State
toxicologist says that the science Mr. Churchill talks about is edgy, and that the
U.S. Center for Disease Control and World Health Organization do not recognize it
as viable.
Mr. Churchill said that a person from the Oregon Department of Human Services
said that there are a number of flaws to the health agencies' statements. He said
Mr. Peddycord must not be very familiar with the literature if he hasn't read Mr.
Churchill's white paper. There is emerging theory about the sources of nitrates.
(Audience member: Other people want to speak.)
Commissioner Daly asked Mr. Churchill to get the rest of his information to the
Board in writing.
Dave Kanner then went through questions that were submitted; he said he sorted
them according to how similar they were, and would read the ones with the most
interest first.
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A man shouted that he had a lot of questions to ask. A woman shouted that they
will just answer the ones they want to. Another man shouted that they should
answer her statement that this has already been decided.
Commissioner Daly stated that they are trying to answer questions at this time, if
everyone would please settle down.
A man shouted that he heard an interview on the radio that sounded like they had
already made up their minds.
Commissioner Daly asked if people wanted to continue the meeting. The audience
generally indicated "yes".
Dave Kanner stated that several questions asked if this is a done deal, is this the
best solution, if this meeting only for show.
Commissioner Luke stated that he has been involved in the political process for
fourteen years, and has attended a lot of hearings. He said they want to answer the
questions, and will be back in a week to get more public input, and a third meeting
if needed.
(A man shouted that they want to talk.)
Commissioner Luke asked that he please not do that. There are people at the
meeting who want to learn.
Commissioner Baney said that she is new to all of this, and that she can say three
things. One of them is that 90% of this is over her head, and she's been studying
documents for days. The money is a concern, and she would ask when, how, and
will I have something to say about it. That's why they are here today. She said
she understands the passion and concern. Another question is, are there
alternatives. This can't be answered yet but will be.
Commissioner Daly emphasized that his mind is not made up. It is a proposed
rule, one that is being considered.
(A woman shouted, you won't answer the question. You were on the radio and it
sounded like you have your mind made up.)
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(A man shouted, what are we here for. It's a waste of time)
Commissioner Daly asked that people please submit questions to staff.
Mr. Kanner stated that one question is whether the systems will be provided by one
vendor, or if there will be time to consider others, since it is not a one size fits all
situation.
(A man shouted, I can answer that one, it's a bunch of crap.)
Barbara Rich stated there are four systems; three are from companies and one is
non-proprietary. There is no monopoly, and others are being reviewed by DEQ
that could be added to the list.
Mr. Kanner said one question asks about the nitrates from lawns and golf courses.
Steve Gutowsky replied that golf courses are self-regulating, and are located in the
northern part of the study area so are not a significant source of nitrates. Most
people have desert-type landscaping so there is probably little fertilizer used.
Changing these could reduce nitrates but the result would be negligible.
Mr. Kanner stated that someone asked why the County allows growth in south
County, and why, if the rule is not in effect, they had to install a special system for
their new house.
Mr. Anderson stated that growth is still allowed; there has been no moratorium or
denial of development applications yet. That's a whole different decision to be
made and affects private property rights. This could be an outcome if the area gets
to the point where the DEQ steps in and takes over, establishing a management
plan and doing what they feel is necessary. This has occurred in other parts of the
state.
The second part is why someone had to put in a new system. Last summer this
requirement was put into place for new development as mandated by DEQ. Given
what they were learning and knew, the County's job under State rules was to
require the new systems on new development that was not already grandfathered in
under a previous site approval.
(A man shouted, why aren't the grandfathered ones up to standards yet.)
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Mr. Kanner then said there were several questions about installing a sewer system.
Barbara Rich explained that a cost comparison was done in 1997, and at that time,
the cost was from $19,000 to $28,000 per lot. The cost would be much higher
now. Sewer system connection costs in cities are significantly higher for existing
systems. The proposed rule is for on-site systems since the range of costs would
be significantly lower.
(A woman shouted, why can't we vote on it. We should be able to vote on this.)
Ms. Rich explained that State law does not allow sewer systems in unincorporated
areas. State law would have to be changed.
Commissioner Baney said she understands there would have to be a State
exception. She then asked if there are grants available for the installation of sewer
systems.
Ms. Rich replied that there are no grant funds available for sewer systems
anywhere in the nation anymore. The only help would possibly be low-interest
loans.
Mr. Kanner stated the next question was why they should upgrade if they are
below the problem nitrate levels.
Citizen Delbert Linn said he has lived in Deschutes County for many years, and
runs a septic business. He said he has seen drainfields put in right and wrong, but
that this can't be swept under the rug, as there is a problem. He asked about gray
water systems. He said they have to be careful about band-aid fixes, which are
expensive in the long run. Most of the people in the area are on fixed income or
are retired. They want to get any financial help possible. He asked about the
superfund for the cleanup of hazardous waste, if it gets that way. He suggested
that everything be looked at, as there has to be an economical way for the folks in
La Pine, and many moved there because housing is affordable. This needs to be
approached in a many pronged thrust. He has a sand filter but they can lose their
useful life, as can anything.
Barbara Rich stated that they have to protect the existing water resource.
Contamination is concentrated in the upper level, but will gradually move into
wells, the aquifer and the rivers. By the time it is a superfund issue, it's too late.
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(Someone shouted, what are Ms. Rich's credentials. How do we know she knows
what she's talking about.)
Ms. Rich replied gave an overview of her various degrees, including a masters
degree in water resources management.
Mr. Kanner stated that a question was why the reports have not been made
available. Mr. Hinkle replied that they are available for inspection. The USGS has
a policy regarding unreleased information; they put it through internal review and
then release it to the public all at the same time. Three reports are already
available, and others will be available after review in about two months, along with
the model and data sets.
Mr. Kanner said that someone asked whether the model was run with the red lots,
and what was assumed and what effect did the red lots have on the model.
Mr. Hinkle replied that the model was initially constructed without the red lots.
The technical advisory process requested they be considered, so they were added.
As a result, in general more systems in the area requires that others reduce even
further. The capacity to handle the pollution doesn't increase.
(Someone shouted, what are red lots?)
Ms. Rich explained that the red lots have less than 24 inches of separation between
the surface of the ground and water. There is a question as to whether these should
be allowed to be developed in the future; there will be an extensive public process
to address this particular issue.
(A man shouted, everything I got off the computer was crap)
Mr. Kanner said a comment was submitted that this should not be considered until
all documents are available. Ms. Rich asked which report they are asking about,
since the final draft has not yet been released by the EPA. The USGS has some
reports available. The EPA report will be published in May.
Mr. Kanner stated that a question is when will 50% of the wells in the study area
have nitrates exceeding 7 ml per liter. Mr. Hinkle replied that he could find that
information in his office work. In about 30 to 40 years, the shallow aquifer will be
well over 10 ml per liter; this is not hypothetical, and has been thoroughly
calibrated.
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Mr. Kanner said the next comment was that since water flows north, what about
the Klamath County systems. And systems in Ponderosa Pines could affect those
properties east of there.
Mr. Hinkle stated that northern Klamath County was including in the area studied,
and loading from that area was considered. The simulation shows it flows towards
the Little Deschutes or the Long Creek area. The nitrates don't necessarily flow
north; they flow towards streams.
Mr. Kanner said someone asked when or if the old septic systems not now in use
need to be replaced. Mr. Landin said that if the system is not used, the sludge will
stop moving out of the tanks and probably won't be a significant source of
pollutants. Ms. Rich said that a survey of permit records found that about 350
systems that might have older, failing steel tanks are still out there.
Mr. Kanner said the next question was how the model compares to the actual
systems in place in La Pine. Mr. Hinkle stated that the period of time analyzed
was between 1960 and 2000, and they used the concentrations found in the
sampled wells, utilizing five-acre blocks about five feet thick. The model was not
for individual homes, but for groups. They looked at the distribution and data, and
the model simulated the distribution satisfactorily. They can't state what most
individual wells have, but calculated the averages and the range of concentrations.
A man asked what the ATT systems are, what effect they have, and do they match
what the model shows, once they are in the ground.
Ms. Rich replied that they tested a lot of systems in the La Pine demonstration
project, and others have been tested in other parts of the County; this testing is all
well documented.
A man stated that the last data he saw shows that a lot of systems didn't meet
expectations. Ms. Rich replied that the demonstration project tested a variety of
systems, and they found some that were not acceptable. The DEQ does a good job
of screening the systems in order to protect the homeowner.
Mr. Kanner said there were a series of questions regarding the ammonia plumes
and wells; and was nitrate tested at these sites and compared.
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Mr. Hinkle stated that nitrogen is transformed into ammonia in the immediate
vicinity, then is changed to nitrate. Some is deep in the aquifer from natural
sources, and shallow parts of the basin may have some from organic matter and
sediment. Ammonium is natural, but nitrates produced from it are not.
Mr. Kanner said a question was submitted asking if global warming is responsible
for any of this, and if the USGS has considered this in its findings. Mr. Hinkle
replied that their studies do not account for anything having to do with global
warming, especially since the studies were conducted over a long period of time.
Mr. Kanner stated that a comment was made that nitrate levels found in the 1960's
and 1970's were the same. Mr. Hinkle stated that none were sampled in the
1960's; some were in the 1980's in a few locations, but there weren't many people
living in the area before then. In the mid-1990's there was a lot more testing done,
and loading that started in the 1960's was found and tracked.
Mr. Kanner said one question was why cluster systems have not been addressed.
Ms. Rich stated that this was addressed in the previous survey. A cluster system is
a large system that connects more than one lot. Public input was that they didn't
want them, with the exception of Oregon Water Wonderland, who has since
extended its system.
A question was asked, why not drill deeper into the aquifer, maybe to 400 feet.
Mr. Hinkle replied once you drill beyond a certain point, it may be an engineering
solution but violates DEQ statute. The DEQ does not want the aquifer
contaminated. Also, the nitrates will still discharge into the rivers, which leads to
water quality problems over a wide area. Also, the deeper water doesn't taste as
good since there is too much sulfur in it. In short, having deeper wells does not
address the contamination of the shallow wells, rivers and aquifers.
Commissioner Baney asked if this is the only county with this problem. If not,
what solutions have been arrived at for others. Mr. Hinkle said that this is a
problem in many areas. Unfortunately, La Pine has population density too low for
a sewer system to be viable, but enough population to contaminate water sources.
Other places have more rainfall, which lessens the impact of contaminates.
Usually housing density must be greater to have a sewer system be possible.
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Barbara Rich said that several areas are tied to onsite wastewater systems,
including parts of Rhode Island that have an advanced system to protect the
coastline; the same is true in Chesapeake Bay. The Florida Keys have significant
nitrate problems as well.
(Audience members began shouting; unintelligible.)
Mr. Kanner said that one comment is that 55% of area homes belong to snowbirds
or are vacation homes, and was this considered.
Mr. Hinkle replied that they looked at records, and in the early 1980's the seasonal
rate was 44%. The local postmaster and garbage collection service tells us in the
1990's this seasonal number is down to 20%. The model is calibrated through
1999, and is based only on what the aquifer can accept.
Mr. Kanner said the next question was how long does it take nitrates to get to the
river in the Wild River development. Mr. Hinkle replied that this area has a short
flow path to the river. He can't be specific, but it could be ten years or less. That's
where it will end up.
Mr. Kanner then asked a question regarding how the system works. Ms. Rich said
nitrogen goes through a transformation, starting as ammonia. When using a
nitrogen reducing process, it is reduced to nitrogen gas. The atmosphere is about
79% nitrogen.
A question was asked if the test wells were sealed with casing to below twenty
feet. Mr. Hinkle said all of the test wells were.
Mr. Kanner said a question was where are the test wells located, and what time of
year were they tested. Ms. Rich replied that there were two sets of wells tested.
One set was drinking water wells, and they were screened where drawn, an average
of sixty feet down. The other set was about 200 shallow water quality monitoring
wells, located in and around the systems being field-tested. They were monitored
every month or two for a year, then every quarter for three years. The locations are
in the USGS presentation; they were scattered around a wide area.
A question was asked why a sewer system would not be less expensive in La Pine,
since it is easier to dig one due to the lack of rocks. Ms. Rich said that the cost is
based primarily on the distance. Homes in the cities are closer together; more
distance makes installation more costly.
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Mr. Kanner stated that someone asked what happens when an electrically powered
system is subject to a power outage. Ms. Rich said she knows there can be power
outages, but this also affects the water supply systems people have. A generator
could handle both during an outage.
Mr. Kanner stated that a question was asked about a cost benefit analysis, looking
at alternatives versus a sewer system. Ms. Rich said that this was done in 1997,
and the cost of a sewer system was not updated to the current value of the land and
materials, as there did not seem to be an interest in a sewer due to the expense.
They are updating this data as they get additional information.
Commissioner Luke pointed out that the idea of a sewer system keeps coming up.
The State won't allow one outside of urban areas. Some developers would like to
put one in and some residents are interested. However, this is not a County
decision; it is up to the State.
Mr. Kanner said someone asked about nitrate reducing options on wells, nitrate
filters on wells and nitrate absorbing products. Ms. Rich stated these are three
distinct questions. Using nitrate filters speaks to digging deeper wells, but this
doesn't protect the aquifer or the rivers. As to gray water systems such as those
located north of Bend, the gray water is applied to large land areas; this is basically
what sewer treatment plants do. This requires a lot of land, and the cost isn't
known. Nitrogen reducing plants might work if there was a different climate, but
most of them don't root well in the La Pine area.
Mr. Kanner said a question was asked about the systems being maintained by
homeowners. Ms. Rich replied that Oregon Rule sets this out; people have to be a
certified maintenance provider, but a homeowner can go through the training
process. This is a State rule.
Mr. Kanner stated that a question was asked regarding those systems not requiring
maintenance, and whether they are proprietary. Ms. Rich said this is a mix; some
need more maintenance than others.
Mr. Kanner stated that someone asked if there is national research addressing this
problem. Ms. Rich replied that the national focus for research is for on-site
systems. EPA has come to the realization that they can't afford to sewer the world,
as many sewer systems already can't be properly maintained. So, the focus of their
funding has been for on-site systems. In terms of the USGS study, it has been
reviewed by experts nationally, which is a requirement of the work they do.
Minutes of Board of Commissioners' Public Hearing regarding La Pine Groundwater Issues
Tuesday, March 13, 2007 Page 16 of 18 Pages
A woman said, everything seems to be based on this model. Ms. Rich replied that
it is based on the national standard for this kind of work. Other hydrologists
review the work to make sure it meets the national standard.
A woman asked, why did we have to replace our system with a sand filter system.
Ms. Rich said that they must have had a high water situation, and the 24" standard
has to be maintained.
Mr. Kanner said that someone asked what happens when there are freezing
temperatures; and the Advantax system is only warranted for five years. Ms. Rich
said that AS-20 systems were installed around the county, with nine in south
County and forty or so elsewhere to test them in various environments. No issues
were observed regarding freezing; they are designed that way. They have a five-
year warranty, but the DEQ requires regular maintenance since they don't want to
see catastrophic failures. They can last the life of the property if properly
maintained.
(Audience disruption and chatter)
Mr. Kanner said a question was raised as to how long a sand filter will last. Ms.
Rich replied that they are not designed to remove nitrogen, just bacteria. They
start discharging nitrates right away.
Mr. Kanner stated a person asked how the new systems would handle household
cleaning products. Ms. Rich said that there were 49 systems monitored over three
years. There are restrictions on certain household products no matter what system
you use, even current systems. This is because they are all biologic systems and
need organisms to work. If they are poisoned, this can negatively affect the
function of any system.
At this time, school district personnel reminded the group that they must leave the
building, so Commissioner Daly advised the audience that the Commissioners and
staff would be back at the school to meet again with the public at 6:00 p.m. on
Tuesday, March 20. There could be a third meeting on March 27 if needed.
The audience was reminded to get their questions to the Commissioners or staff via
e-mail or in writing as soon as possible prior to the next meeting date so that their
questions and concerns could be answered at the next meeting.
Minutes of Board of Commissioners' Public Hearing regarding La Pine Groundwater Issues
Tuesday, March 13, 2007 Page 17 of 18 Pages
Being no further items to come before the Board, Chair Daly adjourned the
meeting at 9:10 p. m.
DATED this 13th Day of March 2007 for the Deschutes County Board
of Commissioners.
ichael M. aly, ?1air
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ATTEST: Tammy 134ney, Cobinissioner
Recording Secretary
Attachments
Exhibit A: Preliminary introductory statement
Exhibit B: Recent comments received by Community Development
Exhibit C: Letter from Orenco Systems regarding nitrates, dated March 13, 2007
Exhibit D: Comments from Keith and Diane Shefelberger, dated March 13, 2007
Exhibit E: Letter from Carl Jansen and Jake Keller regarding gray water systems
Exhibit F: Nitrate health effects information sheet (Health Department)
Exhibit G: Letter regarding nitrates, from the County Health Department Director
and State Offices: Environmental Toxicology Section & Drinking
Water Program within the Office of Environmental Public Health,
Oregon Department of Human Services
Exhibit H: Sign-in sheet (a few speakers; most who spoke out did not identify
themselves)
Exhibit I: Sample questionnaire sheet
Exhibit J: PowerPoint presentation: agenda
Exhibit K: USGS PowerPoint presentation
Minutes of Board of Commissioners' Public Hearing regarding La Pine Groundwater Issues
Tuesday, March 13, 2007 Page 18 of 18 Pages
PRELIMINARY STATEMENT
FOR A LEGISLATIVE PUBLIC HEARINGS BEFORE THE DESCHUTES
COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
This is a public hearing on proposed amendments to the Deschutes County Code,
Title 13, Public Services. This is a legislative matter, meaning the outcome of this
process could change the Deschutes County Code by adding Chapter 13.14
regarding the use of nitrogen reducing onsite wastewater treatment systems to
protect groundwater quality in south Deschutes County.
The Board of County Commissioners will hear oral testimony, receive written
testimony, and consider the testimony submitted at this hearing. The hearing is also
being taped. The Commission has established March 20, 2007 as the date certain for
continuation of this hearing. On that date, the Commission may either make a
decision on this matter, continue the public hearing again to a date certain, or leave
the written record open for a specified period of time.
The hearing will be conducted in the following order: The staff will give a report on this
issue. The Commission may direct initial questions to staff. We will then open the
hearing to all present and ask people to present testimony at one of the tables or at
the podium. You can also provide the commission with a copy of written testimony.
(Due to the large number of persons wishing to testify, the Chair will limit verbal
testimony to five minutes.)
Questions to and from the chair may be entertained at any time during public
testimony at the chair's discretion. Cross-examination of people testifying will not be
allowed. However, if any person wishes ask a question of another person during that
person's testimony, please direct your question to the chair after being recognized.
The Chair is free to decide whether or not to ask such questions of the person
testifying.
Prior to the commencement of the hearing any party may challenge the qualifications
of any the Board of County Commissioners for bias, prejudgment or personal interest.
This challenge must be documented with specific reasons supported by facts.
Should any commission member be challenged, the member may disqualify him or
herself, withdraw from the hearing or make a statement on the record of their capacity
to hear and decide this issue.
At this time, do any members of the Board of County Commissioners need to set forth
any information that may be perceived as bias, prejudgment, or personal interest?
I will accept any challenges from the public now.
(Hearing none, I will open the public hearing). STAFF REP BOCC Public Hearing
(LE PO RT March 13, 2007
BOCC Opening Statement - Legislative Hearing
Groundwater Issues - La Pine
Exhibit
Page 1 of 1
Barbara Rich
From: Tom Anderson
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 1:03 PM
To: 'Gayla'
Cc: Board; Barbara Rich
Subject: RE: Presentation at Commissioners' Public Meeting
Gayla,
Anyone present may testify before the Board at the public hearings. There may not be time for everyone to speak at the
first hearing Tuesday night, so a second hearing is also scheduled the following Tuesday (3/20). More may be scheduled
as necessary. Although given the numbers of folks who may wish to speak the Board may place a limit on speaking time,
they may extend the time as needed for speakers who have particularly relevant testimony.
Hopefully this addresses your concerns.
Tom Anderson
Director
Deschutes County Community Development
117 NW Lafayette Avenue
Bend, OR. 97701
541/385-1704
541/385-1764 (fax)
&m-Anderson@co.deschutes.or.us
From: Gayla [maiIto: gayla@coinet.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 10:15 AM
To: Tom Anderson
Cc: Board; Barbara Rich; Gayla
Subject: Presentation at Commissioners' Public Meeting
met with a gentleman named Glen Clark at last week's meeting. He informed me that he has called Barbara Rich
regarding making a presentation at the public meeting in La Pine; however, he has not heard from her.
Bonnie in the Commissioners' office informed me to send notice to you. Please schedule Mr. Clark. His phone # is 536-
2542 if you need to speak with him.
C7
3/12/2007
BOCC Public Hearing
March 13, 2007
Groundwate Issues - La Pine
Exhibit _
Page 1 of 1
Barbara Rich
From: JON SHARON VURIK [sjmvurik@msn.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 11:06 AM
To: Tammy Baney; Mike Daly; Dennis Luke; Barbara Rich; Tom Anderson
Cc: PPPOA
Subject: LaPine Community Mtg 3/13
Dear County Commissioners and CDD
Please remember that the meeting coming up is OUR meeting. If the CDD had even begun to meet
the public disclosure requirements of the EPA grant etc., they would not feel they have to give any
presentation at OUR meeting. Our speakers are limited in time so if CDD is going to speak, they should
be limited as well. Thank you for your consideration.
Jon and Sharon Vurik
Members of Ponderosa Pines Homeowners Assoc.
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3/12/2007
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Barbara Rich
.
W From': Barbara Rich
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 8:32 AM
To: 'Gayla; Tom Anderson
Cc: Board
Subject: RE: Presentation at Commissioners' Public Meeting
I received a voice mail from a person named Glen. I called him back on March 8, 2007 and left him a voice mail telling
him that there would be opportunity to ask questions and testify on the 13th and 20th. I did not understand him to say that
he wanted to make a presentation.
Barbara J. Rich, REHS
Deschutes County Env. Health
117 NW Lafayette Ave.
Bend, OR 97701
541-617-4713
FAX 541-385-1764
BarbaraR@co.deschutes.or.us
www.deschutes.org/cdd/ use "Quick Links" to the Groundwater Protection Project
•
From: Gayla [mailto:gayla@coinet.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 10:15 AM
To: Tom Anderson
Cc: Board; Barbara Rich; Gayla
Subject: Presentation at Commissioners' Public Meeting
I met with a gentleman named Glen Clark at last week's meeting. He informed me that he has called Barbara Rich
regarding making a presentation at the public meeting in La Pine; however, he has not heard from her.
Bonnie in the Commissioners' office informed me to send notice to you. Please schedule Mr. Clark. Hls phone # is 536-
2542 if you need to speak with him.
•
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Barbara Rich
From: Tom Anderson
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 3:36 PM
To: Barbara Rich
Subject: FW: Meetings of March 13 and March 20th
From: BARBARA KLINSKI [mailto:BKLINSKI98@msn.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 3:16 PM
To: Dennis Luke; mikeda@deschutes.or.us; Board; Mike Daly
Cc: Tom Anderson
Subject: Re: Meetings of March 13 and March 20th
Mr. Daly, Mr. Luke and Ms Baney,
Do you think that the people that have NOT attended any meetings by now, will attend these? From
what I've seen, it's the same people that continue to attend any and all meetings. There are a number of
elderly people that may be figuring that they won't even be alive in 10 years. I've heard some make this
comment.
How about a show of hands at the start of the meeting to see IF there are any who haven't heard the
scientific information?
.Thank you,
Barb Klinski
Original Message
From: Mike Daly
To: BARBARA KLINSKI ; Dennis Luke ; mikeda deschutes.or.us ; Board
Cc: Tom Anderson
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 12:33 PM
Subject: RE: Meetings of March 13 and March 20th
Barbara,
The public hearing on March 13th will begin with the scientific information gathered during the past 6
or 7 years and Staff Comments. I know some of you have already heard from our staff and do not
want to sit through it again, However there are at last count 6400 septic systems in the Lapine area
and each one of: them has a family behind it. The majority of the folks in Lapine have not had the
opportunity to hear this information. We want them to have that opportunity and have their questions
answered. We do not believe we will have time to answer all of the questions at the first meeting, that
is why we will have two, and maybe a third if needed. Please bear with us as we have to serve all of
the people in South County, not just a few. I will be running the meeting as Chair of the Commission,
and we will proceed as fast as we possibly can.
Thank you.
I Michael M. Daly
Deschutes County Commissioner
•1300 NW Wall St., Ste. 200
Bend, Or. 97701
541-388-6569
Cell 541-948-7591
3/12/2007
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Fax 541-385-3202
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From: BARBARA KLINSKI [mailto:BKLINSKI98@msn.com]
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:24 AM
To: Dennis Luke; mikeda@deschutes.or.us; Board
Subject: Meetings of March 13 and March 20th
To all Deschutes County Commissioners:
Are you going to limit the time the County has to state their, case, so as to give the community all the
time we need to have OUR questions addressed? The majority of residents already have heard their
information and want you to listen to US now.
Thank you,
Ron and Barb Klinski
Ponderosa Pines
3/12/2007
Barbara Rich
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-----Original Message-----
From: Tammy Baney
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 3:17 PM
To: 'MIKE& GAIL WYNN'; Board
Cc: Board; Tom Anderson; Dave Kanner
Subject: RE: nitrates
Hi Mike and Gail-
Thank you for your email; we will add your comments to the record. In answer to your questions; yes, we will be having a
reports outside of questions and testimony. This is an important component as not all of the residents in South County
have had an opportunity to hear this information. We are striving to keep the technical information short to allow for more
questions and testimony. I look forward to seeing you on the 13th.
In Partnership,
Tammy Baney
Deschutes County Commissioner
Office: 541 388-6567
Cell: 541 419-2233
Original Message
om: MIKE& GAIL WYNN [mailto:scoot2@bendnet.com]
ent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 11:22 AM
To: Board
Cc: Board
Subject: nitrates
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Barbara Rich
.From: Tom Anderson
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 4:24 PM
To: Barbara Rich
Subject: FW: Local Rule Hearing 13 March 2007
From: Tammy Baney
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 4:10 PM
To: 'JERRY CRISS'; Board
Cc: Dave Kanner; Tom Anderson
Subject: RE: Local Rule Hearing 13 March 2007
Hi Jerry-
Thank you for your email; your comments have been added to the record. I feel that it is important to point out that this is
a meeting for both the Commissioners and the residents of South County. We will be limiting the reports as best we can
as we want to hear from as many citizens as possible. Please know that we will be having a meeting on the 20th as well
and possibly a third if necessary.
Again, thank you for sharing your concerns; they are important to me.
• Partnership,
Tammy Baney
Deschutes County Commissioner
Office: 541 388-6567
Cell: 541 419-2233
From: JERRY CRISS [mailto:tlfly44@msn.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 5:01 PM
To: Board
Subject: Local Rule Hearing 13 March 2007
Mr. and Madam Commissioners,
My name is Jerry Criss and as with my brother Ed Criss, we are full time residents of the South
County. By now you probably have heard of my brother well now you are going to hear about me.
If you believe my brother is a pain you have not seen anything like what I am like. I am a retired
Pipefitter of 35 years and a retired Stationary Engineer of 7 years. In that time I have read
technical reports and data sheets until my eyes were crossed, and understood every word and
figure. I have been involved with issues that your staff even with their knowledge and education
would be lost for quite a while. I have been in meetings and arbitrations with building owners,
lawyers, engineers and/or contractors who cuff links are worth more this counties budget and
toppled many of them. Because they either did not have their facts together and/or they were
trying to hide something and/or were lying. The BS your staff is trying sell to us stinks of
something greater than just a groundwater issue, not because of the science, but because of the
• continued lies and/or half truths being told by your staff. You will see and hear evidence to that
statement on the 13th.
That is what this email is really about, as a member of a well organized group here in South
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County, we do not want to hear any more testimony from your staff, they have had your ears for
over 4 years and now it is time to hear form us. You are going to decide whether or not to put the
residents of South County into financial peril, and you need to hear from us. We are not on board
with this as Ms. Morrow would have you and the EPA believe. We are not willing to sit and listen t
the staff any longer, Tom Anderson wants to just use up the time with more of the same noise and
we have heard enough, he says that he needs time to inform residents who might be hearing of
this issue for the first time to hear their side, well if there truly was a proper public process the
staff would not have that problem, this is our Hearing and our time to be heard, if you bring the
staff here to be heard, I do not believe the residents of the South County are going to stay and
listen. If you truly are interested in what we have to say then let the hearing do that, do not under
estimate the testimony you are going hear, yes there will be many who will be emotional about
how they can't afford it and how can you do this us. But some of what you hear is testimony that
your staff does not want you to hear, hard evidence that they are not fully ready to implement the
Local Rule and proof of some of the lies they have been telling from the beginning of their so called
public process. We are educated enough to understand this issue unlike page 4-37 of the final
report implies and we want to be heard and we want questions answered. If the staff wants to be
heard than limit their time just like you are doing to the residents of the South County who intend
on speaking, if you really want to see the staff get nervous have them ready to answer
questions from the audience, not just though notes written on a card. I know that is asking a lot
but you are asking a lot of us. The questions will give you a real view of what we see as the
problem, they have not convinced us there is going to be a real problem in 30 - 50 years. There
are too many assumptions and the lack of real time variables put into the Predictive Model and
that does not make sense to those of us who have been reading over the mounds of data and
reports. There again is something more to this than just water quality and you are being put on
notice that we will find out what it is.
You know the old adage of do not bring me a problem without also bringing some solution. Well
here are some possible solutions to the so called problem. This is a start of a possible Local Rule.•
1 It is required that all septic systems be inspected and tested by a certified testing agency and
certified to be legal under present County codes, and those results reported to the County.
2 It is required that all drinking wells be tested for nitrates by a certified testing agency and
certified to be legal under present County Codes, and the results reported to the County.
3 There be a 2 year period in which these items are to be completed by all residents of the South
County.
4 Any discrepancies must be rectified within one year of the Counties notice to do so. That could
mean repair of or replacement of present septic systems. The redrilling of some wells to get them
deeper or move them further away from a septic drain field.
5 Testing of the drinking wells for nitrates to be done again in 2 years.
6 Possible retesting of some of the test wells used in the study during the same period.
Testing the septic systems accomplishes many things, it gets the faulty septic systems repaired or
replaced and it takes out the possibility of faulty septic systems influencing the nitrate loading
model. Testing of the actual drinking wells gets clean water into every home here in the South
County and gives us a reading of the nitrate levels. Testing of the wells used in the study gets a
reading of where we are since the last testing in 2004. The retesting after 2 years gives us another
reading of the nitrate levels. The best thing about this programs approach is that most of the cost
to the County is administrative except for testing of the original test wells, the actual costs of the
rest of the testing is on the South County residents. I am sure they are willing to accept that
responsibility. During this time, there can be a real citizens group established to work with the staff
and you, to test the Optimization Model with real life variables rather than run variables that only
have one outcome and if at that time the out come is that we have a real problem then we can
deal with that. Plus you would have established a real citizens group who in turn would have
started a real public process. At the same time the County can get more nitrate reducing systems
certified and/or established that cluster systems might be a more final alternative and they will
have time to get real financial help together that will be of benefit to the residents of the South
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County. These options are not going to be be received well by the staff because they are in a hurry
to get this done before the June 30 deadline and other deadlines that we haven't found yet. But
• they are away to gain time and that is something we do have, after all the nitrate problem is really
not going to be an issue for at least 20 years, just quoting your staff. Thanks for your time, Jerry
Criss
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Barbara Rich
From: Todd Cleveland
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 9:01 AM
To: 'Neal Henderson'
Cc: Barbara Rich
Subject: RE: Follow up
From: Neal Henderson [mailto:easymca@earthlink.net]
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 10:10 AM
To: Todd Cleveland
Subject: Follow up
Neal,
My responses below are in blue. I'm sure that we'll see you there tomorrow evening.
Thanks for your interest, Todd
Todd,
Ohanks for talking with me yeaterday re my concerns about the groundwater protection rule for south
county.
I would like to confirm parts of the converstaion.
First, the TAC committee was not part of the public process, it was solely concerned with the TDC
program.
All TAC committees are public and part of the public process. This particular TAC was convened to
deal with the TDC program, but provided significant input on the local rule concepts.
Second, the TDC, now PRC, program does not have sufficient funds to provide a $3750 rebate to all
of the 6400
homeowners affected by the 'rule'. Further, the rebate program is solely at the discretion of the
developer and can be changed at any time.
It would be best to refer to the TDC code that includes the PRC additions. The rebate is up to the
developer but they may also pay into the partnership fund.
Third, that the county has identified other sources of potential funding to assist homeowners with the
retrofits, but no decision has been made on how those funds would be used.
I would recommend that you read the staff report connected to the proposed rule. See page 16.
urth, the county staff has approved, so far, three systems from Orenco and Consolidated, and a
eneric recirc. gravel filter
as the only systems which may be used for the retrofits. There are no recirc. gravel filters in
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residential use in south county,
thus the county has no experience with them.
The State DEQ approves new Alternative Treatment Technologies. Deschutes County categorizes •
these approved systems based on third party data on nitrogen reduction ability. If a system is
approved as an ATT but not listed as a nitrogen reducing technology it is because either no data is
available or has not been provided regarding it's nitrogen reducing ability.
Recirculating Gravel Filters (RGF's) were approved for residential use in the 2005 rule revision. After
inquiring, I could find no one that knew of a residential application in the state. There are many
installed elsewhere in the nation. County staff has seen them installed on commercial facilities under
a WPCF permit with the DEQ.
Fifth, that continued monitoring of nitrates in the groundwater, should be done every decade, as the
nitrates move very
slowly.
A longer time scale is needed for an effective monitoring program because the nitrates associated
with development of onsite systems is present in discrete plumes in the younger water in the upper
portion of the aquifer.
Sixth, that the county has no influence with the DEQ and will not assist in 'encouraging' the DEQ to
approve proven and
cost effective systems from other manufacturers.
As I told you in our phone conversation, we are working under existing rules and Deschutes County
has offered to assist in any way possible to encourage and accelerate the approval of new
technologies. However, the State can only review applications from manufacturers wishing to be
listed as an ATT in Oregon. Also, the listing or approval of a technology does not make it realisticall
available to the consumer. Following listing by the DEQ, there is a need for a distribution network for
the product. Establishing that distribution network is beyond the control of any government entity.
Thanks
Neal Henderson
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• Deschutes County
Environmental Health Division
117 NW Lafayette Ave.
Bend, Oregon
Attn: Barbara Rich
March 13, 2007
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We are responding to the proposed Local Rule for South Deschutes County.
Deschutes County lists some systems that would be acceptable for use to reduce nitrates. There are at
least 8 systems available for this supposed future problem including a Community System for individual
developments, yet you deny homeowners this option due to zoning regulations and future zoning
regulations. This is unacceptable!
If homeowners have to spend $8,000 to $18,000, they should have the right to choose which way their
housing development (new & old) could best provide for the homeowners.
The studies on the nitrates should be made available to all homeowners in the South Deschutes County
including the LaPine Area. The people of LaPine are not the country bumpkins you seem to believe us
to be. We are quite capable of understanding potential problems and solutions, but we find it hard to
form an opinion when only supplied with the minimal information you choose to disseminate.
• We need to see the actual case studies on nitrates and their alleged health risks.
We need to see the actual case studies on the solutions for removing nitrates.
You have devalued all the properties in the LaPine area and South Deschutes County by requiring an
expensive system for each home that not only adds an additional and outrageous cost but also a yearly
maintenance and re-inspection fee and transfer fee if property is sold.
As public officials working for the people of LaPine Community, it is your sole responsibility to work
for the people of LaPine and South Deschutes County, not the government.
All the materials on this subject you have used to determine the solutions you arrived at need to be made
available to the public. It is also your responsibility to make sure that all systems to remove nitrates be
recommended and approved, not just a select few.
Also, pollution reduction credits should be available to the property owners and not be transferable to
developers for the County pet projects.
Please note our total objection to this Local Rule.
Sincerely,
Robert & Jill Liberty
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 6:16 PM
To: Barbara Rich
Subject: FW: Local Rule Hearing 13 March 2007
From: JERRY CRISS [mailto:tlfly44@msn.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 4:16 PM
To: Board; Tammy Baney; mikeda@deschutes.or.us; Dennis Luke
Cc: Dave Kanner; Tom Anderson
Subject: Re: Local Rule Hearing 13 March 2007
About rules for hearing:
1) Can a speaker relinquish floor to another speaker to speak longer
2) Will staff answer questions on the fly or only by question cards?
3) How long will county staff be allowed to speak?
4) Will charts or maps be allowed to be shown?
5) Can attorneys present suits at hearing?
6) Can testimony by attorney's about future suits be given that this vote might bring?
8) Is there any sponsorship by the commissioners of speakers so that more time for testimony can be
.given to an individual speaker?
9) Do the commissioners or staff run the hearing?
10) Who sets the rules for hearing the staff or the commissioners?
11) Are the rules in writing as regulation, etc??
12) Will recording or video devices brought by citizens be permitted?
13) Will county recordings be availible for copy?
14) Will minutes be published on website in a timely manor?
15) Will speakers be on first come first served basis or sign up in advance on computer, etc??
I am new to area (2 years) and have been involved in public policy for over 35 years in other cities,
county's, state and national activities and want to understand the ground rules for your process.
I have heard from neighbors that staff runs the county and the commissioners are just a rubber stamp
for their wishs. This is too bad, even if it is just a perception on their part, as it may be why I notice a
lack of participation in the south county folks over some issues.
The "local rule" proposal is changing all that.
Ed Criss
(note: using my brothers computer and e-mail for now)
Original Message
From: Tammy Baney
To: JERRY CRISS, Board
Cc: Dave Kanner ; Tom Anderson
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 4:10 PM
Subject: RE: Local Rule Hearing 13 March 2007
Hi Jerry-
.Thank you for your email; your comments have been added to the record. I feel that it is important to point out that
this is a meeting for both the Commissioners and the residents of South County. We will be limiting the reports as
best we can as we want to hear from as many citizens as possible. Please know that we will be having a meeting on
the 20th as well and possibly a third if necessary.
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Again, thank you for sharing your concerns; they are important to me.
In Partnership,
Tammy Baney
Deschutes County Commissioner
Office: 541 388-6567
Cell: 541 419-2233
From: JERRY CRISS [mailto:tlfly44@msn.com)
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 5:01 PM
To: Board
Subject: Local Rule Hearing 13 March 2007
Mr. and Madam Commissioners,
My name is Jerry Criss and as with my brother Ed Criss, we are full time residents of the South
County. By now you probably have heard of my brother well now you are going to hear about
me. If you believe my brother is a pain you have not seen anything like what I am like. I am a
retired Pipefitter of 35 years and a retired Stationary Engineer of 7 years. In that time I have
read technical reports and data sheets until my eyes were crossed, and understood every word
and figure. I have been involved with issues that your staff even with their knowledge and
education would be lost for quite a while. I have been in meetings and arbitrations with building
owners, lawyers, engineers and/or contractors who cuff links are worth more this counties
budget and toppled many of them. Because they either did not have their facts together and/oo
they were trying to hide something and/or were lying. The BS your staff is trying sell to us
stinks of something greater than just a groundwater issue, not because of the science, but
because of the continued lies and/or half truths being told by your staff. You will see and hear
evidence to that statement on the 13th.
That is what this email is really about, as a member of a well organized group here in South
County, we do not want to hear any more testimony from your staff, they have had your ears
for over 4 years and now it is time to hear form us. You are going to decide whether or not to
put the residents of South County into financial peril, and you need to hear from us. We are not
on board with this as Ms. Morrow would have you and the EPA believe. We are not willing to sit
and listen to the staff any longer, Tom Anderson wants to just use up the time with more of the
same noise and we have heard enough, he says that he needs time to inform residents who
might be hearing of this issue for the first time to hear their side, well if there truly was a proper
public process the staff would not have that problem, this is our Hearing and our time to be
heard, if you bring the staff here to be heard, I do not believe the residents of the South
County are going to stay and listen. If you truly are interested in what we have to say then let
the hearing do that, do not under estimate the testimony you are going hear, yes there will
be many who will be emotional about how they can't afford it and how can you do this us. But
some of what you hear is testimony that your staff does not want you to hear, hard evidence
that they are not fully ready to implement the Local Rule and proof of some of the lies they have
been telling from the beginning of their so called public process. We are educated enough to
understand this issue unlike page 4-37 of the final report implies and we want to be heard and
we want questions answered. If the staff wants to be heard than limit their time just like you
are doing to the residents of the South County who intend on speaking, if you really want to see
the staff get nervous have them ready to answer questions from the audience, not just though.
notes written on a card. I know that is asking a lot but you are asking a lot of us. The
questions will give you a real view of what we see as the problem, they have not convinced us
there is going to be a real problem in 30 - 50 years. There are too many assumptions and the
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lack of real time variables put into the Predictive Model and that does not make sense to
• those of us who have been reading over the mounds of data and reports. There again is
something more to this than just water quality and you are being put on notice that we will find
out what it is.
You know the old adage of do not bring me a problem without also bringing some solution. Well
here are some possible solutions to the so called problem. This is a start of a possible Local
Rule.
1 It is required that all septic systems be inspected and tested by a certified testing agency and
certified to be legal under present County codes, and those results reported to the County.
2 It is required that all drinking wells be tested for nitrates by a certified testing agency and
certified to be legal under present County Codes, and the results reported to the County.
3 There be a 2 year period in which these items are to be completed by all residents of the
South County.
4 Any discrepancies must be rectified within one year of the Counties notice to do so. That could
mean repair of or replacement of present septic systems. The redrilling of some wells to get
them deeper or move them further away from a septic drain field.
5 Testing of the drinking wells for nitrates to be done again in 2 years.
6 Possible retesting of some of the test wells used in the study during the same period.
Testing the septic systems accomplishes many things, it gets the faulty septic systems repaired
or replaced and it takes out the possibility of faulty septic systems influencing the nitrate
loading model. Testing of the actual drinking wells gets clean water into every home here in the
South County and gives us a reading of the nitrate levels. Testing of the wells used in the study
gets a reading of where we are since the last testing in 2004. The retesting after 2 years gives
• us another reading of the nitrate levels. The best thing about this programs approach is that
most of the cost to the County is administrative except for testing of the, original test wells, the
actual costs of the rest of the testing is on the South County residents. I am sure they are
willing to accept that responsibility. During this time, there can be a real citizens group
established to work with the staff and you, to test the Optimization Model with real life variables
rather than run variables that only have one outcome and if at that time the out come is that we
have a real problem then we can deal with that. Plus you would have established a real citizens
group who in turn would have started a real public process. At the same time the County can
get more nitrate reducing systems certified and/or established that cluster systems might be a
more final alternative and they will have time to get real financial help together that will be of
benefit to the residents of the South County. These options are not going to be be received well
by the staff because they are in a hurry to get this done before the June 30 deadline and other
deadlines that we haven't found yet. But they are a way to gain time and that is something we
do have, after all the nitrate problem is really not going to be an issue for at least 20 years, just
quoting your staff. Thanks for your time, Jerry Criss
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Barbara Rich
From: Barbara Rich
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 9:09 AM
To: 'John Wurst'
Subject: RE: Information about and on these new standards
The baseline right now would be to use the Multi-Flo, EnviroGuard or AX-20. There are links to
information about these systems at:
http://www.co.deschutes.or.uslindex.cfm?objectld=E08F5071-92D8-AAE9-9E65EEC2D849A600
I know that the AX-20 must be installed by a person certified by the company. I don't know the
licensing or certification requirements for installing the Multi-Flo/EnvirGuard systems.
The distributors for the AX-20 are listed at:
http://www.orenco.com/siteUtils/distributorLocator dists asp?
stateName=Oregon&countyName=Deschutes&countyl D=2212
The local distributor for the MultiFlo/EnvirGuard system is La Pine Redi-Mix at 541-536-1771.
Oope this helps. Let me know if I can be of further assistance.
Sincerely,
Barbara J. Rich, REHS
Deschutes County Env. Health
117 NW Lafayette Ave.
Bend, OR 97701
541-617-4713
FAX 541-385-1764
BarbaraR@co.deschutes.or.us
www.deschutes.org/cdd/ use "Quick Links" to the Groundwater Protection Project
From: John Wurst [mailto:jwurst@haines.ak.us]
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 1:14 PM
To: Barbara Rich
Subject: RE: Information about and on these new standards
0 Barbara
Thank you for your response to my questions.
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The information I would like to get schooled up on is what it will take to up grade my standard system so that it will meet
the base line requirements of a nitrogen reducing system. I am also interested in learning if this up grade can be made by
me as an unlicensed person who is about to sale the property? •
What supply houses in the community handles the equipment for a nitrogen reducing system that will meet the new
standards for my area.
There is little doubt that due to the large number of private septic treatment systems all lying over a shallow aquifer, it is
everyone's responsibility to become part of the solution.
John Wurst
Lands Manager/Assessor
Haines Borough
Haines, Alaska
From: Barbara Rich [mailto: Barba ra_Rich @co. desch utes.or. us]
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 11:28 AM
To: John Wurst
Subject: RE: Information about and on these new standards
Dear John,
Your system is currently an approved system and the proposed Local Rule, if adopted, would not change the fact that the
system currently on the property was installed according to the rule in effect at the time. The rule would just specify that
the system would need to be upgraded to a nitrogen reducing system within 10 years. The proposed rule includes no
requirement that the upgrade be completed at the time of property sale. That is a choice that can be negotiated between
buyer and seller. If the rule is adopted, then performance standards for existing systems will also be established. At that
point I can get you more specific information if you choose to upgrade your system prior to listing your property for sale.
Let me know if that helps, •
Barbara J. Rich, REHS
Deschutes County Env. Health
117 NW Lafayette Ave.
Bend, OR 97701
541-617-4713
FAX 541-385-1764
BarbaraR@co.deschutes.or.us
www.deschutes.org/cdd/ use "Quick Links" to the Groundwater Protection Project
From: John Wurst [mailto:jwurst@haines.ak.us]
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 2:57 PM
To: Barbara Rich
Subject: RE: Information about and on these new standards
Good afternoon Barbara
Thank you for sending me the links to various information sources. I followed both of these links and I could not see what
makes these systems work much less what is expected of my system since it was approved May of 2005 as a standard
system with a 1500 gallon tank and 225 feet of drain field using drain field media BD-2. Will you be allowed to share with
me what, if any changes, this new system must have to be a lawful operating system?
In reviewing the data that is being sent out, I can not determine what I must do to comply? Can I do my own work? Wil~
the work require me to purchase an additional permit? If so how much will this permit cost?
I will need to address all of this so that I can effectively market the property this summer.
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Thank you for your help. It will be difficult for me to come and go since I now live in a remote village in Alaska.
~hn Wurst
From: Barbara Rich [mai Ito: Barba ra-Rich@co.desch utes.or. us]
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 12:45 PM
To: John Wurst
Subject: RE: Information about and on these new standards
Dear John,
I've attached the Certificate of Satisfactory Completion for your property. This will provide specific information on what
system and components have been installed on your property. I have also provided a link to the Groundwater Protection
Project web site for your information. I recommend that you take a look at the information provided there and contact me
again if/when you have additional questions.
htto://www.co.deschutes.or.us/ao/obiectid/70469A86-BDBD-57C1-9CD541 E610EDEED6/index.cfm
Sincerely,
Barbara J. Rich, REHS
Deschutes County Env. Health
117 NW Lafayette Ave.
Bend, OR 97701
541-617-4713
4WX 541-385-1764
rbaraR@co.deschutes.or.us
www.deschutes.org/cdd/ use "Quick Links" to the Groundwater Protection Project
From: John Wurst [mailto:jwurst@haines.ak.us]
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 7:59 AM
To: Barbara Rich
Subject: Information about and on these new standards
Good morning Barbara
My name is John Wurst and I own a property on the north end of Day Road. I now live in Haines, Alaska and will not be
able to attend any public meetings. I have not information regarding these systems but I do see some need to maintain
water quality while the many plated lots in my area are filling in.
Will you please verify my system that was installed two years ago, I have no recall as to wheatear the tank was a 1,000 or
1500 gallon tank. I do recall that they installed 300 feet of infiltrator system for the drain field. I built a 40X60 shop with
about 500 feet of living area permitted in it. My stated intention on the permits is that I will build a 2,000 to 2,400 square
foot residence on the property some time in the future. I hope that this is not too much information, but I am blind as to
what data is needed and for where.
Thank you for your help with my questions, and I look forward to hearing from you.
hn J. Wurst
Box 1432
Haines, Alaska 99827
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Home Phone (907) 766-2426 (evenings only)
Work Phone (907) 766-2231 (daytime week days only)
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Barbara Rich
From: Tom Anderson
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 8:25 AM
To: Todd Cleveland; Barbara Rich; Dan W Haldeman
Subject: FW: LaPine "Local Rule"
I talked to Todd a little bit about this this morning. If one of you could provide a brief response to me on her points that I
can forward back to the Board and her I would appreciate it. My understanding from Todd is that other than O&M, there
are no use limitations for the ATT systems that differ from use limitations that go along with standard or sand filter
systems. Thanks, Tom
From: Dave Kanner
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 8:05 AM
To: Tom Anderson
Subject: FW: LaPine "Local Rule"
Tom -
This is a new one on me. I haven't heard anything about limiting the types of cleaning products that can be used.
Dave
rom: Bunnytale0l@aol.com [mailto:Bunnytale0l@aol.com]
Went: Sunday, March 11, 2007 4:13 PM
To: Dennis Luke; mikeda@deschutes.or.us; Board
Subject: LaPine "Local Rule"
Hello,
wanted to be able to voice my opinions and concerns, as I am sure you wont be able to address
everyone at the public meeting Tues. evening.
Having read many articles on this subject and attempting to be open minded, I find that I really
must disagree with the end results. I owned a house cleaning business for 20 some years in the
Portland area several years ago. I was very successful, and had several high dollar homes in the
West hills. With that said, I know the only way to be able to sanitize toilets, sinks, tubs, showers and
such is to use a bleach type of product. According to the info that I have read, you cannot use any
cleaning products, or it will damage the new septic system. I personally take offense to ANYONE
who dictates what cleaning products I can use or not use in my home!
also take offense to anyone who dictates how many loads of laundry I can use, and the types of
detergents! Just today, there has been two showers, dishes done in the dishwasher, two loads of
laundry, and tonight I look forward to a long bubble bath in my oversized garden tub, which I fill up
with water.
If I chose to do that with the "new septic" system, I would overload the system and have to
have someone " qualified" to fix it. I think there should be a more unbiased tests done as to WHO
needs this system, or come up with one that is not so costly! Sounds to me the only thing you can
put into this type of system is poop! and with that, you are limited on how much per day! Lets say in
the deep of winter temperatures are below zero, a family has the stomach flu, 4 kids (out here there
re lots of families who have more) and two adults. In a matter of 3 days, the whole family is
10h rowing up. Oops! you can't flush it down the toilet, they all have to run outside, because after all,
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its not poop, its vomit, food! And according to the "rules" of what you can and cannot put in this new
septic, food is not one of them. •
As you recall this last fall we had a wind storm, it did enough damage in South County
that everyone was without power for a period of time. I personally was without for three and a half
days. Knowing we ALWAYS loose power every year, we were prepared. We had extra water to use
in the toilet to be able to flush. Apparently with this new system that has to run on power, you wont
be able to do that! In fact if the power goes out, your system will probably be damaged and once
again the person who will be doing maintenance will need to come out. I certainly don't think that
having to use electricity to run the system, annual maintenance fees, and all the other amounts of
money that will have to go out just to maintain this system is cost effective! I don't even use
electricity for heat! I can't afford it. Many out here are the same way.
I really don't understand why you want ALL of South County to have this, and why not the whole
County. Not all of us have or will have a nitrate problem. Nitrates in our well water is so low, it is
non existent. My well is no where near any type of septic, and never will be. So why make ALL of
us have to go deeply into depth, and financially strapped the rest of our days in South County
paying way too much out of our yearly pockets, just to make a select few fill their pockets?
recall back when I was a child in the valley, my parents had an old septic, I remember being so
happy that we could finally tear down the outhouse! Needless to say, they did what all the
neighbors did back then.... all the gray water from the old ringer washer, to the kitchen sink did not
go into the septic, it went off into the yard. Can you imagine forcing people here having to do the
same because they cannot "overload" the new septic? Or use certain cleaning products? I have
considered that to be an option for me, and so will others! Then there will be yet another problem!
Please, don't force this on us, don't dictate what we can or cannot do in our own homes! There is
still time to try to come up with other options, ones that we all can be happy and be able to live with.
Using electricity is NOT an option, we loose power too many times here. Not being able to use
cleaning products that will help us keep our homes sanitized is NOT an option. Limiting our water •
usage is NOT an option. Not being able to go on vacation for a few days without using the septic, is
NOT an option. Forcing the elderly, disabled, and poverty level people to somehow pay for this, and
keep paying monthly is NOT an option.
Sincerely,
Larona Larsell
15655 Dawn Road
LaPine, Oregon
P.O. Box 266
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Barbara Rich
From: Tom Anderson
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 9:01 AM
To: Barbara Rich
Subject: FW: LAPINE WATER Demonstration project.
From: Tom Anderson
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 8:47 AM
To: Dave Kanner
Subject: RE: LAPINE WATER Demonstration project.
attached a link to their website below. It's a national based federation of organizations involved in
wastewater treatment administered through Washington University in St Louis. They are funded by
and closely related to EPA. One of their functions is to help focus EPA grant funding. They were
invloved in the awarding of the National Demonstration Project grant to Deschutes County.
http://www.ndwrcdr).orq/
(From: Dave Kanner
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 8:11 AM
To: Tom Anderson
Subject: FW: LAPINE WATER Demonstration project.
...and what exactly is NDWRCDP?
From: Calvin McClure [mailto:cnrpro7l@msn.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 10:33 PM
To: Board
Subject: LAPINE WATER Demonstration project.
My method for checking this out.
Internet searches (DSL) Qwest.
Original Project documents on County Web Sites.
Links from county web site.
Relevant State and Federal agencies web sites.
Other states' web sites and even some Foreign Countries
Commercial web sites.
4primary concerns were health issues and cost of compliance. I just hate it when somebod
Y
spends a large amount of our money without at least giving us a remote chance of deciding if
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we think it is necessary and I am not anxious to die.
The first thing that caught my eye was a pie chart on an Idaho Ground water survey, which •
indicated that 98% of the nitrate was from industrial, agricultural and natural sources. Only 2%
was attributed to domestic human waste. And that 2% included centralized treatment plants. I
asked myself how is it possible that we have a problem. We have very little agriculture and
almost no industry.
1 was a skeptic now but I continued to search. I searched and read for about 2 week. I visited
100s of related web sites.
My thoughts now are that the health issues are pure bunk. Nitrate contamination of our ground
water is at the very bottom of my health concerns. The tons of dust that are blowing around this
area every summer, caused by the traffic on the hundreds of miles of unpaved roads, is on the
top of that list. I am sure that the health of this community would be better served if the millions
being used to study our water were being used to pave those roads.
Reasons for reaching this conclusion;
The people that conduced the research (NDWRCDP) are the same people that want you to buy
these very expensive Alternative Wastewater Treatment Systems. Did anybody expect that they
were going to discover "nothing" in support their cause.
•
I can monitor the nitrate/nitrite levels in my well water monthly for about ten cents per test. If
test results ever reach a level that raises any concern I can solve this problem for less that $300
by installing a reverse osmoses water filter that will make 50 gallons of pure nitrate/nitrite free
water per day. That same system will remove bacterial, viral and a whole long list of possible
water contaminants. For less than $50 I can get an osmosis filter that attaches to my sink spout,
that does the same thing. Of the 100 to 200 gallons of water coming out of my well I consume
less than two gallons per day. Problem solved.
There hasn't been a reported case of Methemoglobinemia (Blue Baby Syndrome) in the U.S. or
all of Europe for FIFTY years. European nitrate standards for water are 2 to 3 times the
standard recommended in the U.S. Why? Because the USEPA uses the perceived most affected
population to set the standard, infants from the age of birth to six months that are not being
breast feed. Women that do not breast feed can and probably should use distilled of filtered
water to prepare their infants food. Why run the risks of bacterial infections?
Using NDWRCDP to run the evaluation program, establish the test criteria, make all of the
assumption on parameters used, review the end results, etc. is worse than letting the fox into the
chicken house, it borders on sheer stupidity. Making decisions that seriously affect the financial
well being of this community based on their findings border on lunacy. Perhaps we should hav
the reverse osmosis treatment industry review their findings. They could probably add another
two or three thousand dollars to the treatment process. We could start a cottage industry, selling
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the now ultra purified effluent from our septic systems to the rich and famous, or the staff at
it DWRCDP. They even disclaim that the USEPA has reviewed the results.
Viewing the test data for the demonstration systems currently being reviewed by the County
revealed some frightening problems with those systems. Even the dealer technicians could not
keep them running right. Power bills that jumper as much as 100%. Alarms that would not go
off until the dealer tech disabled them. Offensive smells that penetrated the users home.
Repeated service and repair problems. Smells so offensive in the system maintenance ports that
the people that were evaluating them were repulsed. All this while these systems was being
serviced by factory reps., what happens when the user assumes responsibility. I shudder to
think about it. The smell from my neighbors 3 to 4 year old sand filter is already occasionally
present in my back yard during summer. The weeds on top of his sand filter are growing
profusely. Is he maintaining his system properly? Not from what I have read.
I am sure you see my point by now. See you at the hearing. Please reconsider the time limits.
have at least 2 1/2 hours of carefully documented objections that I would Love to present.
Thanks to the unknown but much appreciated superhero that moved Qwest to find a way to
extend DSL all the way out to my house. I think??
Sincerely:
46 al and Reta
PS Copies of this are being given to anybody that wants or will take one.
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Barbara Rich
.From: Tom Anderson
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 10:11 AM
To: Barbara Rich
Subject: FW: Local Rule
From: Mike Daly
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 9:44 AM
To: Tom Anderson
Cc: Dennis Luke; Tammy Baney; Dave Kanner
Subject: FW: Local Rule
Tom,
I am not sure you received this one.
Michael M. Daly
Deschutes County Commissioner
1300 NW Wall St., Ste. 200
Bend, Or. 97701
Well 41-388-6569
541-948-7591
Fax 541-385-3202
From: DAVE KAREN GILLETTE [mailto:thebladesd@msn.com]
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 2:40 AM
To: Tammy Baney
Cc: Mike Daly
Subject: Fw: Local Rule
Original Message
From: DAVE KAREN GILLETTE
To: Dennis Luke co.deschutes.or.us
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 1:31 AM
Subject: Local Rule
Dear Commisioners,
As a Citizen in the LaPine area I am writing to remind that the Citizens need to be heard. You have
heard information from the CDD many times. At the meeting in LaPine on March 13th it is the Citizens
turn to speak regarding the information we have gathered. The CDD has had plenty of time to research
heir information. Many of our Citizens have worked hard to gather Data,but we need more time. We
must be sure that if there is a local Rule regarding the Septic Systems that it will benefit all of us. The
CDD is not considering the financial impact this will have on the Citizens of Lower Deschutes County.
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Many of us will be forced to move out of this beautiful area. Is this what Deschutes County wants? You
are in Office because of the Citizens. We need to be heard!! You also need to be aware that the CDD
tried to sneak this by the Citizens of lower Deschutes County. They stated the information was Public
knowledge. They tried to stop Public input as of December 29th,2006. The CDD implied that this Local
Rule was in effect in June/July of 2006. They were called on this by a group Of Realtors and the CDD
changed their story. The CDD has said they have listened to the people. When was the CDD ever
concerned with what the Citizens had to say. It was implied by certain CDD staff that LaPine Citizens
were "uneducated" with no concern over the water quality. How could that be true when we are the
ones that live here,vote here and pay taxes here!! We want safe water,but what assurances do we
have that this new sytem will work? How long is it guaranteed to work before it needs to be replaced?
Are there other contaminates that could effect our water? Can this system also remove those
contaminates? I request an E-Mailed answer to my questions in 10 to 14 days. My Husband and I will
be attending the meeting on March 13th in LaPine. Karen Gillette
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Barbara Rich
0 From: Tom Anderson
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 10:12 AM
To: Barbara Rich
Subject: FW: South Deschutes County Septic Issue
From: Mike Daly
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 9:48 AM
To: Tom Anderson
Subject: FW: South Deschutes County Septic Issue
Michael M. Daly
Deschutes County Commissioner
1300 NW Wall St., Ste. 200
Bend, Or. 97701
541-388-6569
Cell 541-948-7591
Fax 541-385-3202
I~ J
From: WildRiver HOA [mailto:wildriverhoa@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 5:23 PM
To: Mike Daly; Dennis Luke; Tammy Baney
Subject: South Deschutes County Septic Issue
To Our County Commissioners
On behalf of the 189 lot owners within Wild River Owners Association we ask you to vote against the "local
rule" at the meeting to be held on March 13th at the La Pine High School. We ask that the County hold off on
passing anything for at least a year so that we may have a clear and open public process on this issue. We ask
that a coalition be formed between the County and owners representing different areas of South County so that a
local rule be formed that makes sense for all in South Deschutes County. At this meeting on the 13th the public
should be allowed to ask questions and have an open dialog with the those conducting the meeting.
Thank you for your consideration on this issue.
The Board of Directors of Wild River Owners Association
Nancy Prudhomme,
Secretary
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Barbara Rich
From: Barbara Rich
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 10:31 AM
To: 'John Wurst'
Subject: RE: Information about and on these new standards
Thank you, John. We will also be developing more financial assistance programs to help with the cost if the rule is
adopted.
Sincerely,
Barbara J. Rich, REHS
Deschutes County Env. Health
117 NW Lafayette Ave.
Bend, OR 97701
541-617-4713
FAX 541-385-1764
BarbaraR@co.deschutes.or.us
www.deschutes.org/cdd/ use "Quick Links" to the Groundwater Protection Project
From: John Wurst [mailto:jwurst@haines.ak.us]
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 10:16 AM
To: Barbara Rich
Subject: RE: Information about and on these new standards
Good morning Barbara
This looks like good data. I will be following up on this and learn what it is I will need to do to comply with any new rules
our county sets up. It is better for me to be pro active than reactive on issues such as these. I know that it will be easier
for me to pay now than ten years from know when I have less income to deal with the issues with.
If something new regarding these issues come up please send them my way. I hope that the county has good success
with this. It truly is the best for all who are in the Deschutes River water shed to protect the land and water for ourselves
and those who live down stream.
John Wurst
From: Barbara Rich [mailto:Barbara_Rich@co.deschutes.or.us]
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 8:09 AM
To: John Wurst
Subject: RE: Information about and on these new standards
The baseline right now would be to use the Multi-Flo, EnviroGuard or AX-20. There are links to information about these
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I know that the AX-20 must be installed by a person certified by the company. I don't know the licensing or certification
requirements for installing the Multi-Flo/EnvirGuard systems. •
The distributors for the AX-20 are listed at:
http://www.orenco.com/siteUtils/distributorLocator dists.asp?
stateName=Oregon&countyName=Deschutes&countylD=2212
The local distributor for the MultiFlo/EnvirGuard system is La Pine Redi-Mix at 541-536-1771.
1 hope this helps. Let me know if I can be of further assistance.
Sincerely,
Barbara J. Rich, REHS
Deschutes County Env. Health
117 NW Lafayette Ave.
Bend, OR 97701
541-617-4713
FAX 541-385-1764
BarbaraR@co.deschutes.or.us
www.deschutes.org/cdd/ use "Quick Links" to the Groundwater Protection Project
From: John Wurst [mailto:jwurst@haines.ak.us]
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 1:14 PM
To: Barbara Rich
Subject: RE: Information about and on these new standards
Hi Barbara
Thank you for your response to my questions.
The information I would like to get schooled up on is what it will take to up grade my standard system so that it will meet
the base line requirements of a nitrogen reducing system. I am also interested in learning if this up grade can be made by
me as an unlicensed person who is about to sale the property?
What supply houses in the community handles the equipment for a nitrogen reducing system that will meet the new
standards for my area.
There is little doubt that due to the large number of private septic treatment systems all lying over a shallow aquifer, it is
everyone's responsibility to become part of the solution.
John Wurst
Lands Manager/Assessor
Haines Borough
Haines, Alaska
From: Barbara Rich [mailto: Barba ra_Rich @co.desch utes.or. us]
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 11:28 AM
To: John Wurst •
Subject: RE: Information about and on these new standards
Dear John,
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Your system is currently an approved system and the proposed Local Rule, if adopted, would not change the fact that the
0 stem currently on the property was installed according to the rule in effect at the time. The rule would just specify that
e system would need to be upgraded to a nitrogen reducing system within 10 years. The proposed rule includes no
requirement that the upgrade be completed at the time of property sale. That is a choice that can be negotiated between
buyer and seller. If the rule is adopted, then performance standards for existing systems will also be established. At that
point I can get you more specific information if you choose to upgrade your system prior to listing your property for sale.
Let me know if that helps,
Barbara J. Rich, REHS
Deschutes County Env. Health
117 NW Lafayette Ave.
Bend, OR 97701
541-617-4713
FAX 541-385-1764
BarbaraR@co.deschutes.or.us
www.deschutes.org/cdd/ use "Quick Links" to the Groundwater Protection Project
From: John Wurst [mailto:jwurst@haines.ak.us]
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 2:57 PM
To: Barbara Rich
qo bject: RE: Information about and on these new standards
od afternoon Barbara
Thank you for sending me the links to various information sources. I followed both of these links and I could not see what
makes these systems work much less what is expected of my system since it was approved May of 2005 as a standard
system with a 1500 gallon tank and 225 feet of drain field using drain field media BD-2. Will you be allowed to share with
me what, if any changes, this new system must have to be a lawful operating system?
In reviewing the data that is being sent out, I can not determine what I must do to comply? Can I do my own work? Will
the work require me to purchase an additional permit? If so how much will this permit cost?
I will need to address all of this so that I can effectively market the property this summer.
Thank you for your help. It will be difficult for me to come and go since I now live in a remote village in Alaska.
John Wurst
From: Barbara Rich [mailto:Barbara_Rich@co.deschutes.or.us]
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 12:45 PM
To: John Wurst
Subject: RE: Information about and on these new standards
Dear John,
I've attached the Certificate of Satisfactory Completion for your property. This will provide specific information on what
system and components have been installed on your property. I have also provided a link to the Groundwater Protection
Project web site for your information. I recommend that you take a look at the information provided there and contact me
again if/when you have additional questions.
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•
Sincerely,
Barbara J. Rich, REHS
Deschutes County Env. Health
117 NW Lafayette Ave.
Bend, OR 97701
541-617-4713
FAX 541-385-1764
BarbaraR@co.deschutes.or.us
www.deschutes.org/cdd/ use "Quick Links" to the Groundwater Protection Project
From: John Wurst [mailtoJwurst@haines.ak.us]
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 7:59 AM
To: Barbara Rich
Subject: Information about and on these new standards
Good morning Barbara
My name is John Wurst and I own a property on the north end of Day Road. I now live in Haines, Alaska and will not be
able to attend any public meetings. I have not information regarding these systems but I do see some need to maintain
water quality while the many plated lots in my area are filling in.
Will you please verify my system that was installed two years ago, I have no recall as to wheatear the tank was a 1,000
1500 gallon tank. I do recall that they installed 300 feet of infiltrator system for the drain field. I built a 40X60 shop with is
about 500 feet of living area permitted in it. My stated intention on the permits is that I will build a 2,000 to 2,400 square
foot residence on the property some time in the future. I hope that this is not too much information, but I am blind as to
what data is needed and for where.
Thank you for your help with my questions, and I look forward to hearing from you.
John J. Wurst
PO Box 1432
Haines, Alaska 99827
Home Phone (907) 766-2426 (evenings only)
Work Phone (907) 766-2231 (daytime week days only)
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Barbara Rich
From: Todd Cleveland
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 10:34 AM
To: Barbara Rich
Subject: FW: LaPine "Local Rule"
From: Todd Cleveland
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 10:26 AM
To: Tom Anderson
Subject: FW: LaPine "Local Rule"
From: Todd Cleveland
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 10:20 AM
To: Tom Anderson
Cc: Barbara Rich; Dan W Haldeman
Subject: RE: LaPine "Local Rule"
Tom,
On Oregon, minimum sizing for systems is 450 gallons per day (gpd) maximum projected daily flow. This sizing is typical
for up to a 4 bedroom residence and is basically designed to provide for 45 gallons per person per day use. All systems
must meet this minimum sizing including the Alternative Treatment Technologies (ATT). Many of the ATT systems have
been tested and certified by the testing entity to serve flows greater than that, but Oregon approvals have typically been
more conservative and follow the minimum sizing requirements. Some of the ATT systems currently approved in
Oregon have been certified to serve up to 600gpd or even 750gpd. Also, if an individual owner wishes to use a system
greater than the minimum the system should be sized to serve the use, and these uses are considered in the design
with the use of larger or additional tanks, additional treatment units and additional soil absorption area.
The use of household cleaning products are recommended to be limited on all systems because of the toxic effects on
bacteria and other beneficial microorganisms present. Normal cleaning products such as bleach, disinfectants and
cleaners used in the small quantities needed for cleaning should not harm the onsite system because of the dilution and
other interactions. Overuse of such products can harm all onsite systems because of the toxic effects to the biological
system. We have tips regarding such uses including alternative cleaning products on our website and in handouts for all
systems. We include a handout on anti-microbial soaps. Basically, all systems are a biological treatment system and
poisoning and killing the biology will affect the treatment function of the system.
The issues with power usage don't have a huge impact. Most of the affected areas don't have water when the power is
out as she stated, and these systems have storage capacity built into them for such cases; for example if a pump goes
out. The storage capacity allows for limited use until things can be fixed.
Being gone and not using the system is a point that I don't really understand. If the system isn't being used then it will
stop recirculating or no water will be discharged to the environment. I don't understand the problem.
Hopefully, this clarifies this issue.
Todd
From: Tom Anderson
3/12/2007
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Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 8:25 AM
To: Todd Cleveland; Barbara Rich; Dan W Haldeman •
Subject: FW: LaPine "Local Rule"
I talked to Todd a little bit about this this morning. If one of you could provide a brief response to me on her points that I
can forward back to the Board and her I would appreciate it. My understanding from Todd is that other than O&M, there
are no use limitations for the ATT systems that differ from use limitations that go along with standard or sand filter
systems. Thanks, Tom
From: Dave Kanner
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 8:05 AM
To: Tom Anderson
Subject: FW: LaPine "Local Rule"
Tom -
This is a new one on me. I haven't heard anything about limiting the types of cleaning products that can be used.
Dave
From: Bunnytale0l@aol.com [mailto:Bunnytale0l@aol.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 4:13 PM
To: Dennis Luke; mikeda@deschutes.or.us; Board
Subject: LaPine "Local Rule"
Hello,
wanted to be able to voice my opinions and concerns, as I am sure you wont be able to address.
everyone at the public meeting Tues. evening.
Having read many articles on this subject and attempting to be open minded, I find that I really
must disagree with the end results. I owned a house cleaning business for 20 some years in the
Portland area several years ago. I was very successful, and had several high dollar homes in the
West hills. With that said, I know the only way to be able to sanitize toilets, sinks, tubs, showers and
such is to use a bleach type of product. According to the info that I have read, you cannot use any
cleaning products, or it will damage the new septic system. I personally take offense to ANYONE
who dictates what cleaning products I can use or not use in my home!
also take offense to anyone who dictates how many loads of laundry I can use, and the types of
detergents! Just today, there has been two showers, dishes done in the dishwasher, two loads of
laundry, and tonight I look forward to a long bubble bath in my oversized garden tub, which I fill up
with water.
If I chose to do that with the "new septic" system, I would overload the system and have to
have someone " qualified" to fix it. I think there should be a more unbiased tests done as to WHO
needs this system, or come up with one that is not so costly! Sounds to me the only thing you can
put into this type of system is poop! and with that, you are limited on how much per day! Lets say in
the deep of winter temperatures are below zero, a family has the stomach flu, 4 kids (out here there
are lots of families who have more) and two adults. In a matter of 3 days, the whole family is
throwing up. Oops! you can't flush it down the toilet, they all have to run outside, because after all,
its not poop, its vomit, food! And according to the "rules" of what you can and cannot put in this new
septic, food is not one of them.
As you recall this last fall we had a wind storm, it did enough damage in South County
that everyone was without power for a period of time. I personally was without for three and a half •
days. Knowing we ALWAYS loose power every year, we were prepared. We had extra water to use
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in the toilet to be able to flush. Apparently with this new system that has to run on power, you wont
e able to do that! In fact if the power goes out, your system will probably be damaged and once
gain the person who will be doing maintenance will need to come out. I certainly don't think that
having to use electricity to run the system, annual maintenance fees, and all the other amounts of
money that will have to go out just to maintain this system is cost effective! I don't even use
electricity for heat! I can't afford it. Many out here are the same way.
really don't understand why you want ALL of South County to have this, and why not the whole
County. Not all of us have or will have a nitrate problem. Nitrates in our well water is so low, it is
non existent. My well is no where near any type of septic, and never will be. So why make ALL of
us have to go deeply into depth, and financially strapped the rest of our days in South County
paying way too much out of our yearly pockets, just to make a select few fill their pockets?
I recall back when I was a child in the valley, my parents had an old septic, I remember being so
happy that we could finally tear down the outhouse! Needless to say, they did what all the
neighbors did back then.... all the gray water from the old ringer washer, to the kitchen sink did not
go into the septic, it went off into the yard. Can you imagine forcing people here having to do the
same because they cannot "overload" the new septic? Or use certain cleaning products? I have
considered that to be an option for me, and so will others! Then there will be yet another problem!
Please, don't force this on us, don't dictate what we can or cannot do in our own homes! There is
still time to try to come up with other options, ones that we all can be happy and be able to live with.
Using electricity is NOT an option, we loose power too many times here. Not being able to use
cleaning products that will help us keep our homes sanitized is NOT an option. Limiting our water
usage is NOT an option. Not being able to go on vacation for a few days without using the septic, is
NOT an option. Forcing the elderly, disabled, and poverty level people to somehow pay for this, and
keep paying monthly is NOT an option.
Oincerely,
Larona Larsell
15655 Dawn Road
LaPine, Oregon
P.O. Box 266
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Re-examining the Link between Nitrates and "Blue-
Baby" Syndrome: A Necessary First Step For
Managing Ground Water Quality to Protect Public
Health
Dr. Allan S. Felsot, Environmental Toxicologist, WSU
Perhaps a million dollars will be spent before all is said and done in implementing the
Columbia Basin Ground Water Management Area (GWMA) (Tri-City Herald 1998). The
GWMA is a coordinated local, state, and federal effort to manage ground water quality in
Franklin, Grant, and Adams Counties. It was formed partly in reaction to the EPA
proposal to designate the Columbia Plateau as a sole-source aquifer and thus bring
increased federal regulation to the region. Focusing on nitrates in well water, GWMA
will use the public funding for monitoring, education, and implementation of solutions to
reduce contamination.
Preventing nitrates from leaching to ground water is ostensibly motivated by the need to
protect public health. Nitrates in drinking water have been associated with isolated cases
of methemoglobinemia (MHB). Commonly known as "blue-baby" syndrome, MHB
affects infants under 6 months of age. The most characteristic symptom is an ashen,
bluish (cyanotic) hue to the skin and nails.
• The most commonly perceived risk factor for MHB is feeding infants powdered formulas
diluted with well water containing excessive levels of nitrates. The presence of well water
nitrate is commonly attributed to farming practices that have used excessive amounts of
synthetic fertilizers over the last thirty years. Given these perceptions, altering agronomic
management practices for nitrogen use will logically result in safer water.
The problem with this cause-and-effect scenario is that common perception may now be
wrong, or at least so out-of-date as to put in place management practices that will fail to
provide corresponding benefits in public health. Consider the following statement that
appeared in a 1995 report (Nitrate and Nitrite in Drinking Water) from the National
Research Council (NRC), the research arm of the National Academy of Sciences (NRC
1995). "Infection is the major contributor to methemoglobinemia from nitrate exposure;
the incremental contribution of drinking water is negligible." A bombshell of a statement,
indeed, but very important if the GWMA is to implement appropriate solutions for
protecting ground water quality that ultimately has tangible public health benefits.
The key to appropriate ground water management is buried in the NRC statement and the
scientific literature behind it. Based on my review of this literature, I hypothesize that
focusing solely on nitrates, as the GWMA plan now seems to do, will not benefit public
health. Poorly constructed and located old wells and bacterial contamination are as much
a cause of drinking water quality deterioration as are nitrates. I will develop this
hypothesis further by reviewing briefly the historical linkage between nitrates and infant
• MHB, the alternative perspective expounded in the NRC report, and recent ground water
monitoring studies useful for guiding the way to effective management that will protect
public health. is
Historical Concerns about Well Water Nitrates and Public Health
Nitrate is one of the few contaminants whose drinking water standard is solely derived
from epidemiological studies. But the early studies, which date prior to 1950, were not
broad scientific investigations. Rather, they were medical cases reported in the literature.
Nevertheless, the current standard, 10 milligrams (mg) of nitrate-nitrogen (N) per liter (L)
of water (or 44 mg/L of nitrate ion), was first proposed over 50 years ago, specifically to
protect infants from MHB (NRC 1978).
Patient case observations by H. H. Comly, a young resident doctor at the University of
Iowa, were the first to link infantile MHB with the consumption of well water containing
high levels of nitrates (Comly 1945). By the early 1940's, methemoglobin, an aberrant
form of the blood protein hemoglobin but lacking the capabability of transporting
oxygen, was well known. Methemoglobin is a normal constituent of blood, but its level is
kept low by an enzyme that rapidly changes it back into normal hemoglobin. Certain
drugs, including those containing nitrate and the related ion, nitrite, were recognized as
causing an excessive build up of methemoglobin leading to MHB. As a result, when the
hemoglobin levels are too low, the skin and nails turn cyanotic.
During the late 1940's several other case reports echoed Comly's experiences (Bosch
1948, Walton 1951). An infant would be brought to an emergency room or clinic. The
symptoms were usually the same as described by Comly, a bluish color perhaps with
difficulty breathing or general lethargy. A normal color would return upon treatment with •
methylene blue, a dye that had been known to counteract the symptoms of MHB. The
infant was sent home with parental directions to not use the well water. In many cases the
water was tested and found to have excessive levels of nitrate.
By 1951, enough methemoglobinemia case reports had been published to put together a
review (Walton 1951). Seventeen states had reported cases of water-induced infant MHB;
no state reported cases when the nitrate-N concentration was less than 10 mg/L.
Examination of the data gave validity to Comly's estimation that the upper limit for
nitrate-N should be no higher than 10 mg/L. In 1962, the U.S. Public Health Service
recommended a nitrate-N limit of 10 mg/L. In 1974, under authority of the Safe Drinking
Water Act, the EPA adopted the same standard (Fan 1996).
Since first adoption of the nitrate standard, occasional medical case reports have linked
nitrates in drinking water with infant MHB (Knotek 1964; Vigil 1965; Miller 1971;
Shearer 1972; Super 1981; Johnson 1987). About 2000 cases of MHB with a mortality
rate of 10% have been reported worldwide between 1945 and 1990 (Kross et al. 1992). In
the U.S., however, cases reported from Minnesota, including deaths, still account for
most of the reports. The NRC (1995) found no studies of nitrate-induced MHB since
1990. Water-induced MBH seems rather rare now, but a dearth of cases has been
attributed primarily to a lack of reporting requirements, and secondarily to a lack of
physician awareness.
An Alternative Hypothesis of the Relationship between Nitrates and MHB 0
• The 1995 NRC report was a response to a request from the EPA for a review of the
current basis of the drinking water standard for nitrate and to determine whether it
remained protective of public health. The NRC concluded that limiting infant exposure to
nitrate was a sensible public health measure, and given the current toxicological and
epidemiological information, the 10 mg/L regulatory standard was adequate. However,
the NRC pointed out that bacterial and viral infection, which can manifest as diarrhea,
vomiting, and acidosis (abnormally low blood pH), are contributing factors to MHB,
suggesting that nitrates are but one of several water quality parameters to consider.
What is striking about the historical case reports of MHB associated with nitrates in
water, is how often the infants were reported to have diarrhea and sometimes vomiting
(Comly 1945, Bosch et al. 1950, Vigil et al. 1965, Shearer et al. 1972, Johnson et al.
1987, Knobeloch et al. 1993). The high nitrate content of water was frequently associated
with unacceptable levels of coliform bacterial contamination. Even when bacterial
contamination was not reported, the wells were often described as shallow, improperly
sealed, dug structures. The well locations were usually near a barnyard, septic system,
cesspool, or outhouse (Bosch et al. 1950, Miller 1971).
Although no one disputes the hazard of high levels of nitrates to infants, numerous
published cases have reported MHB in infants with diarrhea and acidosis but no exposure
to water with elevated nitrate levels (Hegesh and Shiloah 1982, Bricker et al. 1983,
Dagan et al. 1988, Smith et al. 1988, Lebby et al. 1993, Murray and Christie 1993,
Gebara 1994, Hanukoglu and Danon 1996). Other studies, while not reporting whether
• water was a source of nitrates, have recognized that MHB may be commonly associated
with diarrhea and acidosis (Danish 1983, Kay et al. 1990), and sometimes urinary tract
infections (Hanukoglu et al. 1983). Other contaminants in water could also lead to MHB,
confounding the role of nitrates. For example, a recent case of MHB in a Wisconsin
infant was attributed to elevated copper levels (Knobeloch et al. 1993). The infant was
symptomatic with vomiting and diarrhea, and the well water contained 10 mg/L nitrate-N
after going through a treatment process known as reverse osmosis.
Why Would MHB Be Associated with Diarrhea?
By the 1960's, when the nitrate drinking water standard was developed, the formation of
methemoglobin and the extraordinary susceptibility of infants was well known.
Biochemical studies had shown that nitrite, not nitrate, interacted with hemoglobin to
produce methemoglobin. Infants were susceptible because they lacked enough of an
enzyme that commonly changes the methemoglobin back to its normal, oxygen carrying
form. Infants under 6 months old also carried a form of hemoglobin that could be more
easily affected by nitrite than older children and adults. Because the infant stomach was
not nearly as acid as an adult stomach, nitrate-transforming bacteria thrived and changed
the nitrate into nitrite.
In addition to formation in the stomach, nitrite is produced from nitrate in the salivary
glands. Nitrate moves from the stomach into the small intestine where it is absorbed into
the blood. As the blood circulates through the salivary glands, some of the nitrate is
. changed to nitrite and both ions are secreted into the mouth and are then swallowed
again. About 5% of the total ingested nitrate is believed to be converted to nitrite (NRC
1995). Nitrate is not changed to nitrite in the blood. •
Nitrite tends to pass out of the stomach more slowly than nitrate. It can be slowly
absorbed from the intestine, but significant amounts are eliminated in the feces. During
infection, however, the intestinal lining becomes irritated and inflamed, causing it to be
more leaky to the nitrite. One study has shown that diarrhea speeds up the passage of
nitrite from the stomach into the intestine (Witter et al. 1979). Thus, it is probable that
digestive tract infections allow a lot more nitrite absorption into the blood than when the
intestine is healthy.
Another reason that bacterial and viral infections of the digestive or urinary tract could be
associated with the onset of MHB is also related to the body's ability to synthesize nitrate
and nitrite (Green et al. 1981). If water nitrates are low, about 45% of the total nitrate
exposure is due to this endogenous synthesis (NRC 1995). Studies in rodents have shown
that bacterial infection causes an increase in nitrate and nitrite synthesis by specialized
cells of the immune system (Wagner et al. 1983, Stuehr and Marletta 1985). The newly
synthesized nitrite can be excreted into the blood by these cells and thus become
available to bind with hemoglobin.
Incidence of Bacterial and Nitrate Contamination of Ground Water
The flurry of MHB case reports in the late 1940's occurred at a time when synthetic
mineral nitrogen fertilizers were somewhat of a novelty. Synthetic fertilizer use did not
start to increase until the end of the 1950's. Yet, the wells involved in the early MHB •
cases were highly contaminated with nitrates. Ironically, as annual synthetic fertilizer use
increased from about 3 metric tons in 1960 to 10 metric tons by 1980 (Puckett 1995), the
number of published MHB reports related to nitrates in well water diminished. Instead,
the majority of reports seemed to be making a connection between the coincidence of
infant diarrhea and MHB, suggesting that bacterial contamination may be just as
important to manage as nitrate content.
Two recent ground water monitoring reports emphasize the widespread nature of
bacterial contamination. A statewide survey of well water quality in Nebraska showed
that 19% of rural wells were contaminated with greater than 10 mg/L nitrate-N, and 15%
had bacterial contamination (Gosselin 1997). Wells contaminated with bacteria generally
had low nitrate concentrations unless the wells were constructed of brick, concrete or tile
rather than the more acceptable PVC plastic or steel.
A province-wide survey in Ontario, Canada showed 14% of drinking water wells with
nitrate-N above 10 mg/L and 34% with unacceptable bacterial contamination (Goss et al.
1998). Bacterial contamination decreased with increasing distance of a well from feedlots
or exercise yards on livestock farms. Monitoring wells installed inside agricultural fields
still had significant levels of bacterial and nitrate contamination, which was attributed to
application of manure (Rudolph et al. 1998).
Lessons Learned
Failure to thoroughly understand the nature of a public health problem can lead to failed •
attempts at management. A survey of newspaper articles indicates that growers tend to be
• the scapegoats for nitrate contamination and, by association, infantile MHB. Is it
unreasonable to assume that the articles may reflect the attitudes of policy makers or at
least influence them? Allowing policy to myopically focus on nitrates is causing hazards
to be overlooked. Bacterial contamination can lead to infection, acidosis, diarrhea, and
vomiting, known risk factors for MHB in infants. Surely, very high levels of nitrates in
water are not desirable and increase the risk of MHB, but simply mandating reduced
nitrogen inputs is a simplistic solution to a potential public health problem. By focusing
only on nitrates, and ignoring potentially widespread bacterial contamination, poor well
construction and undesirable locations, the GWMA may mollify the policy makers, but
ultimately do little to protect public health.
Return to Table of Contents for the October 1998 issue
References:
Bosch, H. M., A. B. Rosenfield, R. Huston, H. R. Shipman, and F. L. Woodward. 1950.
J. Am. Water Works Assoc. 42:161-170.
Bricker, T., L. S. Jefferson, and A. A. Mintz. 1983. J. of Pediatrics 102:161.
Comly, H. H. 1945. J. Am. Medical Associ. 129:112-116.
• Dagan, R., F. Zaltastein, and Gorodischer. 1988. Eur. J. Pediatr. 147:87-89.
Danish, E. H. 1983. J. of Pediatrics 102:162-161.
Fan, A. M., and V. E. Steinberg. 1996. Regulatory Toxicol. and Pharmacol. 23:35-43.
Gebara, B. M., and M. G. Goetting. 1994. Clinical Pediatrics 370-373.
Goss, M. J., D. A. J. Rudolph, D. L. Barry. 1998. J. Contaminant Hydrology 32:267-293.
Gosselin, D. C., J. Headrick, R. Tremblay, X. -H Chen, and S. Summerside. 1997.
Ground Water Monitoring and Remediation 17:77-87.
Green, L. C., K. R. De Luzuriaga, D. A. Wagner, W. Rand, N.Istfan, V. R. Young, and S.
R. Tannenbaum. 1981.
Proc. Natl. Acad. Sci. USA 78:7764-7768.
Hanukoglu, A., and P. N. Danon. 1996. J. Pediatric Gastroenterology and Nutrition 23:1-
7.
Hegesh, E., and J. Shiloah. 1982. Clinica Chemica Acta 125:107-115.
Johnson, C. J., P. A. Bonrud, T. L. Dosch, A. W. Senger, K. A. Busch, D. C. Kilness, and
M. R. Meyer. 1987.
0 J. Am. Medical Assoc. 257:2796-2797.
Kay, M. A., W. O'Brien, B. Kessler, R. McVie, and E. R. B. McCabe. 1990. Pediatrics •
85:589-592.
Knobeloch, L., K. Krenz, and H. Anderson. 1993. Morbidity and Mortality Weekly
Report (MMWR) 42:217-219.
Knotek, Z., and P. Schmidt. 1964. Pediatrics 78-83.
Kross, B. C., A. Ayebo, and L. J. Fuortes. 1992. American Family Physician 46:183-188.
Lebby, T., J. J. Roco, and E. L. Arcinue. 1993. Am. J. Emergency Medicine 11:471-472.
Miller, L. W. 1971. J. Am. Medical Assoc. 216:1642-1643.
Murray, K. F., and D. L. Christie. 1993. Journal of Pediatrics 122:90-92.
National Research Council (NRC). 1995. Nitrate and nitrite in drinking water. National
Academy Press, Washington D. C.63 pages.
Rudolph, D. L., D. A. J. Barry, and M. J. Goss. 1998. J. Contaminant Hydrology 32:295-
311.
Shearer, L. A., J. R. Goldsmith, C. Young, O. A. Kearns, and B.R. Tamplin. 1972.
American Journal of Public Health 62:1180.
Smith, M. A., N. Shah, J. S. Lobel, and W. Hamilton. 1988. Am.J. Pediatric •
Hematology/Oncology 10:35-38.
Stuehr, D. J., and M. A. Marletta. 1985. Proc. Natl. Acad. Sci. 82:7738-7742.
Super, M., H. De V. Heese, D. MacKenzie, W. S. Dempster, J.Du Plessis, and J. J.
Ferreira. 1981. Water Research 15:1265-1270.
Vigil, J., S. Warburton, W. S. Haynes, and L. Kaiser. 1965.Public Health Reports
80:1119-1121.
Wagner, D. A., V. R. Young, and S. R. Tannenbaum. 1981. Proc. Natl. Acad. Sci. USA
80:4518-4521.
Walton, G. 1951. Am. J. Public Health 41:986-996.
Witter, J. P., S. J. Gatley, and E. Balish. 1979. Science 204:411-413.
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Gary and Merrilee Lewis
Hope Ranch, LLC
1567 SW Chandler, Suite 101
Bend, OR 97702
Deschutes County Board of Commissioners
Bend, OR
Subject: South County Groundwater Onsite Wastewater Treatment
To the Deschutes County Board of Commissioners,
March 8, 2007
We appreciate the work that Deschutes County employees have performed in addressing
the groundwater issues in south county. Studies have been conducted in the region since
1982 and expensive models constructed to study the effects of septic system contribution
to drinking water and river water pollution. We recognize that there could be a problem
with potential future contamination of the groundwater as effluent works through the soil
and older systems degrade.
Deschutes County has advocated an approach that limits groundwater contamination via
• implementation of retrofits to existing systems and mandatory maximum nitrogen
reduction systems for new septic system installations.
This is an approach that, although expensive, addresses the nitrate problem in the
groundwater. We're concerned that this solution only addresses the nitrate issue and
doesn't specifically solve issues of bacteria or future unknown contaminants.
Furthermore, implementation of the retrofits are to take place over a ten-year period.
Many homeowners. we believe, will wait nine years before spending the money. If
Deschutes County studies are correct, they will throughout this time, be polluting the
groundwater.
The draft ordinance effectively eliminates development on the so-called `red lots' that are
in areas of high groundwater. Property owners in this area have lots that, when they were
platted, were build-able. Owners have been paying property taxes on these properties
since the 1960s. To take away the ability to build on these lots is damaging to the
property owners. Specifically, we refer to the draft item C in 1314030 which reads:
Locating the onsite wa.stewccter treatment sj;Vein or portion thereof on ctn
adjoining parcel tinder the same ownership mery be permitted if the lots are
combined or the lol line adjusted follotiving apl.)roval of ct lot line ad_ jrrstment
application to the Department.
Currently, the permitting process allows for effluent from one lot to be piped to a nearbv
lot through the use of right-of-way easements- Item C takes away that ability.
541.317.0116
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Mar 12 07 01:37p Gary and Merrilee Lewis 541.317.0116
We believe that this is a one-for-one swap of build-able property that doesn't add to the
development in southern Deschutes County and it enables the land owner to use the
property as it was originally intended. To that end, we propose that item C could be
rewritten as follows:
Locating the onsite wastewater treatment system or portion thereof on a
remote parcel under the same oivnership may be permitter following .septic
system approval and engineer-stamped drawings.
In addition, we believe that a community-scale ATT treatment or an engineered
membrane bioreactor system should be considered as a viable approach to connecting
homeowners to a community treatment plant. The science supports component systems
that are updateable and upgradeable. Such systems (often called cluster systems) can be
employed to treat effluent from 10 homes to 1000 homes or more to a level of 5mg/L or
less. There are many examples where these treatment plants have been put to use in
Oregon and around the Northwest.
The use of cluster systems allows the flexibility, in areas of new development, to have
developers underwrite the systems and subsidize connections for low-income households.
We believe this is a far better approach to a solution of the groundwater issue. In order to
implement a cluster system outside of a municipality, aGoal i 1 exception is required.
We would like to see the County advocate for a Goal l l exception to resolve
groundwater contamination concerns in the southern portion of Deschutes County.
Thank you for the opportunity to address you on this topic.
Sincerely,
Dan J. Cardot
for Hope Ranch, LLC
480-5291,,
Gait' A. wis'..
for SOC4 Inves ents LLC
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Barbara Rich
.From: JON SHARON VURIK [sjmvurik@msn.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 9:15 AM
To: Tammy Baney; Mike Daly; Tom Anderson; Barbara Rich
Subject: Re: LaPine Mtg tonight - quick synopsis of main points for you to consider (Article w research etc is below)
By focusing only on nitrates, and ignoring potentially widespread bacterial contamination, poor well
construction and undesirable locations, the GWMA may mollify the policy makers, but ultimately do
little to protect public health
Preventing nitrates from leaching to ground water is ostensibly motivated by the need to protect public
health
The problem with this cause-and-effect scenario is that common perception may now be wrong, or at
least so out-of-date as to put in place management practices that will fail to provide
corresponding benefits in public health
"Infection is the major contributor to methemoglobinemia from nitrate exposure; the incremental
contribution of drinking water is negligible."
I hypothesize that focusing solely on nitrates, as the GWMA plan now seems to do, will not benefit
public health
&uggesting that nitrates are but one of several water quality parameters to consider
Biochemical studies had shown that nitrite, not nitrate, interacted with hemoglobin to produce methemoglobin - Because
the infant stomach was not nearly as acid as an adult stomach, nitrate-transforming bacteria thrived and changed the
nitrate into nitrite.
suggesting that bacterial contamination may be just as important to manage as nitrate content.
Failure to thoroughly understand the nature of a public health problem can lead to failed attempts at
management
Allowing policy to myopically focus on nitrates is causing hazards to be overlooked
I Reply I Recommend Message 6 in Discussion I
Re-examining the Link between Nitrates and "Blue-Baby" Syndrome: A
Necessary First Step For Managing Ground Water Quality to Protect Public
Health
Dr. Allan S. Felsot, Environmental Toxicologist, WSU
Perhaps a million dollars will be spent before all is said and done in implementing the
Columbia Basin Ground Water Management Area (GWMA) (Tri-City Herald 1998).
• The GWMA is a coordinated local, state, and federal effort to manage ground water
quality in Franklin, Grant, and Adams Counties. It was formed partly in reaction to the
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EPA proposal to designate the Columbia Plateau as a sole-source aquifer and thus •
bring increased federal regulation to the region. Focusing on nitrates in well water,
GWMA will use the public funding for monitoring, education, and implementation of
solutions to reduce contamination.
Preventing nitrates from leaching to ground water is ostensibly motivated by the need
to protect public health. Nitrates in drinking water have been associated with isolated
cases of methemoglobinemia (MHB). Commonly known as "blue-baby" syndrome,
MHB affects infants under 6 months of age. The most characteristic symptom is an
ashen, bluish (cyanotic) hue to the skin and nails.
The most commonly perceived risk factor for MHB is feeding infants powdered
formulas diluted with well water containing excessive levels of nitrates. The presence
of well water nitrate is commonly attributed to farming practices that have used
excessive amounts of synthetic fertilizers over the last thirty years. Given these
perceptions, altering agronomic management practices for nitrogen use will logically
result in safer water.
The problem with this cause-and-effect scenario is that common perception may now
be wrong, or at least so out-of-date as to put in place management practices that will
fail to provide corresponding benefits in public health. Consider the following statement
that appeared in a 1995 report (Nitrate and Nitrite in Drinking Water) from the National
Research Council (NRC), the research arm of the National Academy of Sciences
(NRC 1995). "Infection is the major contributor to methemoglobinemia from nitrate
exposure; the incremental contribution of drinking water is negligible." A bombshell of
a statement, indeed, but very important if the GWMA is to implement appropriate •
solutions for protecting ground water quality that ultimately has tangible public health
benefits.
The key to appropriate ground water management is buried in the NRC statement and
the scientific literature behind it. Based on my review of this literature, I hypothesize
that focusing solely on nitrates, as the GWMA plan now seems to do, will not benefit
public health. Poorly constructed and located old wells and bacterial contamination are
as much a cause of drinking water quality deterioration as are nitrates. I will develop
this hypothesis further by reviewing briefly the historical linkage between nitrates and
infant MHB, the alternative perspective expounded in the NRC report, and recent
ground water monitoring studies useful for guiding the way to effective management
that will protect public health.
Historical Concerns about Well Water Nitrates and Public Health
Nitrate is one of the few contaminants whose drinking water standard is solely derived
from epidemiological studies. But the early studies, which date prior to 1950, were not
broad scientific investigations. Rather, they were medical cases reported in the
literature. Nevertheless, the current standard, 10 milligrams (mg) of nitrate-nitrogen (N)
per liter (L) of water (or 44 mg/L of nitrate ion), was first proposed over 50 years ago,
specifically to protect infants from MHB (NRC 1978).
Patient case observations by H. H. Comly, a young resident doctor at the University of
Iowa, were the first to link infantile MHB with the consumption of well water containing
high levels of nitrates (Comly 1945). By the early 1940's, methemoglobin, an aberrant
form of the blood protein hemoglobin but lacking the capabability of transporting •
oxygen, was well known. Methemoglobin is a normal constituent of blood, but its level
is kept low by an enzyme that rapidly changes it back into normal hemoglobin. Certain
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0 exposure to water with elevated nitrate levels (Hegesh and Shiloah 1982, Bricker et al.
drugs, including those containing nitrate and the related ion, nitrite, were recognized
as causing an excessive build up of methemoglobin leading to MHB. As a result, when
the hemoglobin levels are too low, the skin and nails turn cyanotic.
During the late 1940's several other case reports echoed Comly's experiences (Bosch
1948, Walton 1951). An infant would be brought to an emergency room or clinic. The
symptoms were usually the same as described by Comly, a bluish color perhaps with
difficulty breathing or general lethargy. A normal color would return upon treatment
with methylene blue, a dye that had been known to counteract the symptoms of MHB.
The infant was sent home with parental directions to not use the well water. In many
cases the water was tested and found to have excessive levels of nitrate.
By 1951, enough methemoglobinemia case reports had been published to put together
a review (Walton 1951). Seventeen states had reported cases of water-induced infant
MHB; no state reported cases when the nitrate-N concentration was less than 10
mg/L. Examination of the data gave validity to Comly's estimation that the upper limit
for nitrate-N should be no higher than 10 mg/L. In 1962, the U.S. Public Health Service
recommended a nitrate-N limit of 10 mg/L. In 1974, under authority of the Safe
Drinking Water Act, the EPA adopted the same standard (Fan 1996).
Since first adoption of the nitrate standard, occasional medical case reports have
linked nitrates in drinking water with infant MHB (Knotek 1964; Vigil 1965; Miller 1971;
Shearer 1972; Super 1981; Johnson 1987). About 2000 cases of MHB with a mortality
rate of 10% have been reported worldwide between 1945 and 1990 (Kross et al.
1992). In the U.S., however, cases reported from Minnesota, including deaths, still
account for most of the reports. The NRC (1995) found no studies of nitrate-induced
MHB since 1990. Water-induced MBH seems rather rare now, but a dearth of cases
has been attributed primarily to a lack of reporting requirements, and secondarily to a
lack of physician awareness.
An Alternative Hypothesis of the Relationship between Nitrates and MHB
The 1995 NRC report was a response to a request from the EPA for a review of the
current basis of the drinking water standard for nitrate and to determine whether it
remained protective of public health. The NRC concluded that limiting infant exposure
to nitrate was a sensible public health measure, and given the current toxicological
and epidemiological information, the 10 mg/L regulatory standard was adequate.
However, the NRC pointed out that bacterial and viral infection, which can manifest as
diarrhea, vomiting, and acidosis (abnormally low blood pH), are contributing factors to
MHB, suggesting that nitrates are but one of several water quality parameters to
consider.
What is striking about the historical case reports of MHB associated with nitrates in
water, is how often the infants were reported to have diarrhea and sometimes vomiting
(Comly 1945, Bosch et al. 1950, Vigil et al. 1965, Shearer et al. 1972, Johnson et al.
1987, Knobeloch et al. 1993). The high nitrate content of water was frequently
associated with unacceptable levels of coliform bacterial contamination. Even when
bacterial contamination was not reported, the wells were often described as shallow,
improperly sealed, dug structures. The well locations were usually near a barnyard,
septic system, cesspool, or outhouse (Bosch et al. 1950, Miller 1971).
Although no one disputes the hazard of high levels of nitrates to infants, numerous
published cases have reported MHB in infants with diarrhea and acidosis but no
1983, Dagan et al. 1988, Smith et al. 1988, Lebby et al. 1993, Murray and Christie
1993, Gebara 1994, Hanukoglu and Danon 1996). Other studies, while not reporting
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whether water was a source of nitrates, have recognized that MHB may be commonly
associated with diarrhea and acidosis (Danish 1983, Kay et al. 1990), and sometimes •
urinary tract infections (Hanukoglu et al. 1983). Other contaminants in water could also
lead to MHB, confounding the role of nitrates. For example, a recent case of MHB in a
Wisconsin infant was attributed to elevated copper levels (Knobeloch et al. 1993). The
infant was symptomatic with vomiting and diarrhea, and the well water contained 10
mg/L nitrate-N after going through a treatment process known as reverse osmosis.
Why Would MHB Be Associated with Diarrhea?
By the 1960's, when the nitrate drinking water standard was developed, the formation
of methemoglobin and the extraordinary susceptibility of infants was well known.
Biochemical studies had shown that nitrite, not nitrate, interacted with hemoglobin to
produce methemoglobin. Infants were susceptible because they lacked enough of an
enzyme that commonly changes the methemoglobin back to its normal, oxygen
carrying form. Infants under 6 months old also carried a form of hemoglobin that could
be more easily affected by nitrite than older children and adults. Because the infant
stomach was not nearly as acid as an adult stomach, nitrate-transforming bacteria
thrived and changed the nitrate into nitrite.
In addition to formation in the stomach, nitrite is produced from nitrate in the salivary
glands. Nitrate moves from the stomach into the small intestine where it is absorbed
into the blood. As the blood circulates through the salivary glands, some of the nitrate
is changed to nitrite and both ions are secreted into the mouth and are then swallowed
again. About 5% of the total ingested nitrate is believed to be converted to nitrite (NRC
1995). Nitrate is not changed to nitrite in the blood.
Nitrite tends to pass out of the stomach more slowly than nitrate. It can be slowly •
absorbed from the intestine, but significant amounts are eliminated in the feces. During
infection, however, the intestinal lining becomes irritated and inflamed, causing it to be
more leaky to the nitrite. One study has shown that diarrhea speeds up the passage of
nitrite from the stomach into the intestine (Witter et al. 1979). Thus, it is probable that
digestive tract infections allow a lot more nitrite absorption into the blood than when
the intestine is healthy.
Another reason that bacterial and viral infections of the digestive or urinary tract could
be associated with the onset of MHB is also related to the body's ability to synthesize
nitrate and nitrite (Green et al. 1981). If water nitrates are low, about 45% of the total
nitrate exposure is due to this endogenous synthesis (NRC 1995). Studies in rodents
have shown that bacterial infection causes an increase in nitrate and nitrite synthesis
by specialized cells of the immune system (Wagner et al. 1983, Stuehr and Marletta
1985). The newly synthesized nitrite can be excreted into the blood by these cells and
thus become available to bind with hemoglobin.
Incidence of Bacterial and Nitrate Contamination of Ground Water
The flurry of MHB case reports in the late 1940's occurred at a time when synthetic
mineral nitrogen fertilizers were somewhat of a novelty. Synthetic fertilizer use did not
start to increase until the end of the 1950's. Yet, the wells involved in the early MHB
cases were highly contaminated with nitrates. Ironically, as annual synthetic fertilizer
use increased from about 3 metric tons in 1960 to 10 metric tons by 1980 (Puckett
1995), the number of published MHB reports related to nitrates in well water
diminished. Instead, the majority of reports seemed to be making a connection
between the coincidence of infant diarrhea and MHB, suggesting that bacterial •
contamination may be just as important to manage as nitrate content.
Two recent ground water monitoring reports emphasize the widespread nature of
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bacterial contamination. A statewide survey of well water quality in Nebraska showed
• that 19% of rural wells were contaminated with greater than 10 mg/L nitrate-N, and
15% had bacterial contamination (Gosselin 1997). Wells contaminated with bacteria
generally had low nitrate concentrations unless the wells were constructed of brick,
concrete or tile rather than the more acceptable PVC plastic or steel.
A province-wide survey in Ontario, Canada showed 14% of drinking water wells with
nitrate-N above 10 mg/L and 34% with unacceptable bacterial contamination (Goss et
al. 1998). Bacterial contamination decreased with increasing distance of a well from
feedlots or exercise yards on livestock farms. Monitoring wells installed inside
agricultural fields still had significant levels of bacterial and nitrate contamination,
which was attributed to application of manure (Rudolph et al. 1998).
Lessons Learned
Failure to thoroughly understand the nature of a public health problem can lead to
failed attempts at management. A survey of newspaper articles indicates that growers
tend to be the scapegoats for nitrate contamination and, by association, infantile MHB.
Is it unreasonable to assume that the articles may reflect the attitudes of policy makers
or at least influence them? Allowing policy to myopically focus on nitrates is causing
hazards to be overlooked. Bacterial contamination can lead to infection, acidosis,
diarrhea, and vomiting, known risk factors for MHB in infants. Surely, very high levels
of nitrates in water are not desirable and increase the risk of MHB, but simply
mandating reduced nitrogen inputs is a simplistic solution to a potential public health
problem. By focusing only on nitrates, and ignoring potentially widespread bacterial
contamination, poor well construction and undesirable locations, the GWMA may
• mollify the policy makers, but ultimately do little to protect public health.
Return to Table of Contents for the October 1998 issue
References:
Bosch, H. M., A. B. Rosenfield, R. Huston, H. R. Shipman, and F. L. Woodward. 1950.
J. Am. Water Works Assoc. 42:161-170.
Bricker, T., L. S. Jefferson, and A. A. Mintz. 1983. J. of Pediatrics 102:161.
Comly, H. H. 1945. J. Am. Medical Associ. 129:112-116.
Dagan, R., F. Zaltastein, and Gorodischer. 1988. Eur. J. Pediatr. 147:87-89.
Danish, E. H. 1983. J. of Pediatrics 102:162-161.
Fan, A. M., and V. E. Steinberg. 1996. Regulatory Toxicol. and Pharmacol. 23:35-43.
Gebara, B. M., and M. G. Goetting. 1994. Clinical Pediatrics 370-373.
Goss, M. J., D. A. J. Rudolph, D. L. Barry. 1998. J. Contaminant Hydrology 32:267-
293.
Gosselin, D. C., J. Headrick, R. Tremblay, X. -H Chen, and S. Summerside. 1997.
Ground Water Monitoring and Remediation 17:77-87.
Green, L. C., K. R. De Luzuriaga, D. A. Wagner, W. Rand, N.Istfan, V. R. Young, and
S. R. Tannenbaum.. 1981.
Proc. Natl. Acad. Sci. USA 78:7764-7768.
Hanukoglu, A., and P. N. Danon. 1996. J. Pediatric Gastroenterology and Nutrition
23:1-7.
Hegesh, E., and J. Shiloah. 1982. Clinica Chemica Acta 125:107-115.
Johnson, C. J., P. A. Bonrud, T. L. Dosch, A. W. Senger, K. A. Busch, D. C. Kilness,
. and M. R. Meyer. 1987.
J. Am. Medical Assoc. 257:2796-2797.
Kay, M. A., W. O'Brien, B. Kessler, R. McVie, and E. R. B. McCabe. 1990. Pediatrics
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85:589-592. •
Knobeloch, L., K. Krenz, and H. Anderson. 1993. Morbidity and Mortality Weekly
Report (MMWR) 42:217-219.
Knotek, Z., and P. Schmidt. 1964. Pediatrics 78-83.
Kross, B. C., A. Ayebo, and L. J. Fuortes. 1992. American Family Physician 46:183-
188.
Lebby, T., J. J. Roco, and E. L. Arcinue. 1993. Am. J. Emergency Medicine 11:471-
472.
Miller, L. W. 1971. J. Am. Medical Assoc. 216:1642-1643.
Murray, K. F., and D. L. Christie. 1993. Journal of Pediatrics 122:90-92.
National Research Council (NRC). 1995. Nitrate and nitrite in drinking water. National
Academy Press, Washington D. C.63 pages.
Rudolph, D. L., D. A. J. Barry, and M. J. Goss. 1998. J. Contaminant Hydrology
32:295-311.
Shearer, L. A., J. R. Goldsmith, C. Young, O. A. Kearns, and B.R. Tamplin. 1972.
American Journal of Public Health 62:1180.
Smith, M. A., N. Shah, J. S. Lobel, and W. Hamilton. 1988. Am.J. Pediatric
Hematology/Oncology 10:35-38.
Stuehr, D. J., and M. A. Marletta. 1985. Proc. Natl. Acad. Sci. 82:7738-7742.
Super, M., H. De V. Heese, D. MacKenzie, W. S. Dempster, J.Du Plessis, and J. J.
Ferreira. 1981. Water Research 15:1265-1270.
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Barbara Rich
From: Tom Anderson
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 2:14 PM
To: Barbara Rich
Subject: FW: SOUTH COUNTY WATER SAFETY
From: Dave Kanner
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 10:31 AM
To: Tom Anderson
Subject: FW: SOUTH COUNTY WATER SAFETY
From: AUTO PARTS MART Owner [mailto:autopartsmart@msn.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 10:02 AM
To: Board
Subject: SOUTH COUNTY WATER SAFETY
Robert Ray
Box 1258
4(ao~ine, OR 97739
536-5306
Good Morning,
As a resident of the southern part of the county I am a little concerned about the proposed change over
to the new septic systems and the costs involved.
Since we are all concerned with nitrate levels in the area I'm asking you to place a moratorium on the
use of nitrate fertilizers on the golf courses in the south county area. Your failure to do so places us at
risk. The information you have provided us shows us the dangers involved in the elevated nitrate levels
and the prohibition of the use by non-agricultural entities would lower the anticipated increase in the
nitrates in the coming years.
What the heck we're a magnanimous bunch down here, we're concerned with anyone in the Deschutes
Water Shed Area any park or golf course that has property on the river should be prohibited as well. The
Les Schwab Amphitheatre, the Old Mill District grassy areas, Drake Park, Pioneer Park all within 500
yards of the river and a definite danger to all of us. Those houses in Bend along the river should also be
looked at with a sharp eye to identify any nitrate contamination from there lawns.
Your failure to provide for our safety concerns from an entity knowingly spreading nitrates on the
surface of the ground in the south county in particular could certainly lead to a class seeking protection
through litigation.
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March 13, 2007
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Orenco Systems"
Incorporated
Board of County Commissioners 1-800-348-9843
Deschutes County
1300 NW Wall St., Suite 200
Bend, OR 97701
SUBJECT: Response to County Public Health Department Memo, and Undated Oregon
Dept. of Human Services Staff Letter Regarding South Deschutes County Groundwater
Nitrate and Toxicity Concerns
Dear Commissioners:
I have attached a February 26, 2007 memo sent to the Commissioners and other County staff by
Daniel Peddycord, County Public Health Director, and Mary Norburg, Medical Director,
regarding "Groundwater Nitrates and Health Concerns." In that memo, Mr. Peddycord
transmitted an undated letter signed by three staff persons in the Oregon Department of Human
Services, Office of Environmental Public Health. That letter (referred to below as "the EPH staff
letter"), consisted of comments on Steve Wert's December 28, 2006 letter to the County
Commissioners regarding the proposed Local Rule for Onsite Wastewater Treatment Systems.
As an attachment to his letter, Mr. Wert included a White Paper that I wrote entitled "Nitrate
Toxicity: Fact or Myth? Excerpts from my paper were also included in the body of his letter.
The EPH staff letter erroneously attributed to me certain statements that appeared in Mr. Wert's
letter (but which in fact I did not author), questioned my personal motivations, and otherwise
mischaracterized my position on nitrate toxicity. I feel it is my responsibility to set the record
straight in this letter.
Speculation About Personal Motives Is Inappropriate
EPH staff devoted nearly a full page of their letter to questioning my credibility and
mischaracterizing my views based on statements that I never made. What is worse, they
maligned me personally by remarking: "This individual apparently has a direct economic
incentive for the position he is arguing." It is deeply disturbing to see State staff speculating
about personal motivations in an official letter - this is not an appropriate role for a public health
official. It is completely inappropriate and unprofessional for agency staff to publicly speculate
about personal motivations in this manner. I am also disappointed that the County Health
Department chose to forward a letter containing such aspersions to the County Commissioners.
This incident gives the unfortunate impression that government will not objectively consider
information submitted by stakeholders if, in the opinion of agency staff,.the submitter may have
a personal or business "incentive." I am confident that this is not the sort of impression that
either the State Department of Human Services, or the County Commissioners, would desire to
foster. It is in everyone's best interests to work towards open dialog and eliminating the barriers
that too often exist between the government and business sectors. Regrettably, the EPH staff
letter only seems to reinforce these barriers.
BOCC Public Hearing
March 13, 2007
Groundwater Issues - La Pine
Exhibit G
Deschutes County Commissioners
March 13, 2007
In closing, I would like to respond to the following statement contained in the letter from the
County Health Department to the Commissioners:
"We remain steadfast in our conviction that consumption of drinking water in excess of
10mg of nitrate per liter can and does have harmful effects on human health. This is well
documented and not in dispute among public health professionals."
That statement is demonstrably false, and suggests that Mr. Peddycord and Ms. Norburg have
not familiarized themselves with the current literature on nitrate toxicity. I have included, in
Attachment 3, some excerpts from the literature to demonstrate that public health experts do not
consider the supposed harmful effects of drinking water nitrate to be "well-documented" at all.
Although they often call for more research to be done, experts generally acknowledge that the
existing evidence is "inconclusive" at best. The following statement, contained in the Southern
Willamette Valley Ground Water Management Area Action Plan (December 2006, p. 12)
presents a fairly accurate picture of the consensus in the public health literature:
in the past ten years, toxicology and public health research has suggested that adults
may develop other illnesses as a result of consuming high levels of nitrate. Scientific studies
have found that in addition to methemoglobinemia, nitrate may be associated with diabetes,
various forms of cancer, and adverse reproductive outcomes such as miscarriages, congenital
defects, and premature birth (Ward, 2005). A limited number of studies have also found links
to thyroid dysfunction, impaired immune response, decreased liver function, and respiratory
infection. However, at this time, research findings are not consistent and evidence is not
conclusive." [Emphasis added.]
Attachment 3 also contains specific responses to assertions made about nitrate toxicity in the
EPH staff letter.
Thank you for you allowing me to bring these matters to your attention.
Sinienco rely,
JChurchill, Ph.D., Government Relations Representative
Systems, Inc.
814 Airway Ave.
Sutherlin, OR 97479
(800) 348-9843, ext. #432
Attachments: 1) February 26, 2007 Memo from Deschutes County Public Health Department
2) Undated staff letter, Oregon Dept. of Human Services, Environmental Public
Health Office
3) Specific response to nitrate toxicity issues raised in the County Public Health
Department Memo and EPH staff letter
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AT~iOcyMENT 1
Deschutes County Health Department
February 26, 2007
Dave Kanner, County Administrator
Tom Anderson, Director Community Development
Commissioner Dennis Luke,
Commissioner Mike Daly
Commissioner Tammy Baney
Re: Groundwater Nitrates and Health Concerns
Thank you for the opportunity to comment on the health concerns associated
with groundwater nitrates in southern Deschutes County. We remain steadfast
in our conviction that consumption of drinking water in excess of 10mg of
nitrate per liter can and does have harmful effects on human health. This is well
documented and not in dispute among public health professionals. We support
the EPA's current drinking water standard and threshold of 10 milligrams of
nitrate per liter of drinking water to be the upper limit of recommended human
exposure.
We also endorse efforts to limit and control nitrate-nitrogen accumulation in the
groundwater from surface and immediate subsurface sources. Nitrate in the
groundwater can and does lead to human exposure especially in areas that draw
a preponderance of drinking water, untreated, from the ground water. Nitrate-
nitrogen accumulation is almost always the result of human and agriculture use
of the land and is exceedingly rare to be the result of natural causes.
We have asked our colleagues with the State Public Health Environmental
Toxicology program to comment on the letter of December 281h, 2006 from Mr.
Steve Wert. We consider our colleagues knowledgeable experts related to
human health associated with environmental toxicology. You will note, in their
attached commentary, that that they refute many of the assertions made in the
Wert letter.
Respectfully,
Daniel W. Peddycord RN, MPA/HA - Public Health Director
Mary Norburg MD, Medical Director
A rTic#m w2
Daniel Peddycord, Director
Deschutes County Health Department
2577 NE Courtney Drive
Bend, Oregon 97701
Dear Mr. Peddycord,
Attached are comments provided by staff in the Environmental Toxicology
Section and the Drinking Water Program within the Office of Environmental
Public Health, Department of Human Services regarding nitrates found in
Deschutes County.
Please let us know if we can provide further assistance or clarify any
comments in our attachment.
Sincerely,
Dave Stone, PhD
Toxicologist
Ken Kauffman, RS
Environmental Health Specialist
Dennis Nelson, PhD
Geologist
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and I am not sure where- he heard or read that CDC doesn't consider it
reportable.
C. We have not read the Hirondel book he cites. He understands it to say
that nitrates "have been wrongly implicated" in MET. The chemistry of
nitrates, nitrites and disease causation is complicated; and it is true that gut
conditions and microbial flora have important roles in nitrate metabolism,
but there is no question that ingested nitrate is an enormous anzl key factor
in methemoglobinemia causation.
D. MET and its injurious effects are not limited to infants as Wert
suggests. As the county fact sheet clarifies, there are a wide range of
susceptible ages and conditions in adults, children and infants.
E. Wert makes much of the claim that there have been few recent
fatalities attributed to MET. I don't know what his source of information
is, but there are many acute MET injuries, some of which are fatal each
year. There are many agents other than nitrate/nitrites including
medications, CO inhalation and others, but he is wrong that MET is a rare
or benign disorder.
F. One should not look only at fatalities attributed to MET. Oxygen
deprivation is a very serious condition, and even in subacute, nonlethal
cases, there can be serious and permanent damage to the brain and
neurological system. This would be especially true for fetuses, infants and
children whose nervous system is rapidly developing and very susceptible
to oxygen deprivation. Other less serious conditions may include diarrhea
and irritability.
G. The fact that we have effective ways of treating MET is no argument
that we should not try to prevent it. There is always a delay between
discovery and effective treatment during which lasting harm can be done.
Prevention needs to be the objective. Treatment, even when effective is a
failure to truly protect the susceptible.
H. Wert mentions small studies in which administration of nitrate failed to
produce symptoms. This is not surprising because humans and animals
display a range of susceptibility. Drinking water regulations are aimed at
A. Any single food item in our diet is consumed in small quantities
compared to the amounts of water ingested each day. Food servings are
typically a few ounces, rarely more than 4 ounces while water is consumed
in amounts ranging from 8 oz. to 75 oz. per day (two to 50 times more than
a typical food serving). It is unlikely that any particular food, especially
one with a high nitrate content will be consumed every day or on a regular
basis. For these reasons it is incorrect to equate food exposures with water
exposures. Drinking water nitrates have from two to 50X as much
significance as nitrate levels in any given food.
B. The food nitrate chart is easily misinterpreted also by persons looking
at the high-end of the nitrate ranges for each food. Generally one is
exposed to foods from a variety of sources over time, so the nitrate level
for a given item tends to average itself. Note that the low end of the
nitrate levels for most food items is below or near the drinking water limit
for nitrate, and as explained in "A" food nitrate is less significant on a daily
exposure basis, because of the relatively small amount of each food
consumed.
C. One needs to consider that ingested and absorbed nitrates are additive,
so it is very misleading to compare sources against another. The total
exposure is combined, and since food nitrates are largely unavoidable, their
presence makes it crucial that water levels be held to an even lower level,
in order to keep the combined exposure within safe limits.
Churchill concludes that "regulators" generally use nitrates as an indicator
of other more important contaminants, rather than a direct source of
harm. The finding of high nitrates in surface or groundwater is often
recognized as an indication that industrial, agricultural, animal or human
wastes are reaching the water; but it is incorrect to say that nitrates are not
recognized as dangerous and harmful to humans, animals and the
environment as well.
Additional Comments on the Wert Letter:
The Environmental Health Perspectives article that is included by Steve
Wert's paper is really an advocacy piece in a peer-reviewed journal. The
author, Avery is affiliated with the Hudson Institute, which cannot be
considered a disinterested party.
potentially dangerous sources of nitrate as a function of land use patterns.
The factsheet should mention that seasonality of nitrate concentrations, and
the utility of testing the water in the late summer and early spring to capture
that variation.
Comment on section: "How Do I Remove Nitrate From My Drinking
Water?"
This discuss is adequate and we appreciate the mention of the problem with
the "universal treatments" of boiling water and the use of "mechanical"
filters & chlorination to remove nitrate. We recommend a brief clarification
of the difference and pros/cons of point-of-use vs. point-of-entry treatment -
that they should base their decision on whether or not treatment is necessary
on the analysis of their water. In addition, they should consult with a local
treatment supplier who is familiar with the character of local groundwater to
obtain a level of treatment that is consistent with their specific situation.
Attachment 3
SPECIFIC RESPONSE TO NITRATE TOXICITY ISSUES RAISED IN THE COUNTY
PUBLIC HEALTH DEPARTMENT MEMO AND THE EPH STAFF LETTER
1. From the February 26, 2007 County Public Health Department Memo:
"We remain steadfast in our conviction. that consumption of drinking water in excess of 10mg of
nitrate per liter can and does have harmful effects .on human health. This is well documented arfd
not in dispute among public health professionals."
Response:
The Public Health Department did not provide any literature references to back up this assertion.
Here are some pertinent excerpts from the public health literature demonstrating that the evidence
for nitrate toxicity is hardly considered "well-documented" or "not in dispute":
"Examination of the literature suggests that a number of authors are starting to question the
simple association between nitrate and infant methemoglobinemia." (Fewtrell, 2004.)
"Nitrate has been implicated in methemoglobinemia and also a number of currently inconclusive
health outcomes." (Fewtrell, op. cit., emphasis added.)
"Epidemiologic evidence for increased risk for adverse reproductive and developmental
outcomes in humans from exposure to nitrate in drinking water is sparse and suggestive at best."
(Manassaram et al, 2006.)
"Some scientists have recently suggested that the regulatory limit for nitrate is overly
conservative." (Ward et al., 2005.)
A search of the literature on health effects of nitrates suggests that the nitrate standard may
be too low, particularly in light of the probable need for bacterial action to produce
methemoglobinemia in humans." (Parsons, 1977.)
"The evidence that increased intake of nitrate, nitrite, and N-nitroso compounds can lead to
increased incidence of type 1 diabetes is conflicting There is no convincing evidence that the
intake of nitrate in the Netherlands at present levels in drinking water leads to increased risk of
diabetes mellitus type 1." (van Maanen et al., 2000.)
"The subcommittee concludes that the incremental contribution of nitrate and nitrite from
drinking water in the United States to total nitrate and nitrite exposure is negligible and unlikely
to contribute to human cancer risk." (National Research Council, 1995.)
2. From EPH staff letter, Comment C:
" there is no question that ingested nitrate is an enormous and key factor in
methemoglobinemia causation."
"Very few cases of methemoglobinemia are reported in the U.S." (Weyer, 2001.)
"In the U.S., reports of new cases fell off steadily through the early 1950s, without any corrective
action having knowingly been taken. Today, the disease has all but disappeared." (Smith, 2000.)
"Given the apparently low incidence of possible water-related methemoglobinemia, the complex
nature of the role of nitrates, and that of individual behavior, it is currently inappropriate to attempt
to link illness rates with drinking-water nitrate levels." (Fewtrell, op. cit., emphasis added.)
"Reports of infantile methemoglobinemia linked to contaminated drinking water are now virtually
non-existent in the Unites States, with only two cases reported since the mid-1960s." (Avery, op.
cit.)
EPH staff assert that "there are many acute [methemoglobinemia] injuries, some of which are fatal
each year," but they are apparently unable to back up that claim by providing supporting evidence
from the literature. According to Knobeloch et al. (op. cit.), the Center for Disease Control's national
death certificate database includes only six infant deaths that were attributed to methemoglobinemia
in the 17 year period between 1979 and 1996. Of those six cases, only one could be definitively
linked to well-water consumption. The other five cases were not reported in the literature, so details
are unknown. As the EPH staff letter acknowledges, there are many agents known to cause
methemoglobinemia even in the absence of any exposure to drinking water nitrate. Even in cases
where drinking-water is implicated, other suspicious factors (e.g., bacterial contamination, or
diarrhea indicative of bacterial or viral infection and gastroenteritis) are almost always noted. These
factors are consistent with the emerging theory that methemoglobinemia associated with drinking-
water may be due primarily to bacterial/viral infection rather than drinking-water nitrate.
If there are "many" methemoglobinemia injuries and fatalities "each year" as claimed by EPH staff,
they should have had no difficulty producing case reports to validate that claim. I suggest they start
by contacting the Office of Disease Prevention and Epidemiology within their own department, to
determine the incidence of methemoglobinemia in Oregon. On or about June 5, 2006, I contacted
Chris Bushore, a Research Analyst in that office, whose job involves analyzing research and
statistics on infant health. When I asked him for information about the incidence of blue-baby
syndrome in Oregon, it was necessary to explain to him what blue-baby syndrome is because he was
not familiar with it. He had to ask me whether it was a common problem nationwide. This suggests
that the condition is virtually unheard of in Oregon.
4. On p. 4 of their letter, EPH staff states: "Churchill makes much of the fact that certain small studies
failed to show or produce measurable [methemoglobinemia] in exposed subjects All one can say of
such a study is that it failed through smallness, flawed design or faulty measurement of outcomes.
There is no lack of scientific evidence that dietary nitrate harms susceptible infants, children and
adults. "
Response:
I would point out to EPH staff that Shuval et al. (1972, cited in Parsons, op. cit.) conducted a study in
which blood methemoglobin concentrations were compared between two groups of infants. The first
group included 1,702 infants fed from wells with an average of 15.5 mg/L nitrate-N (1.5 times the
drinking-water standard); the second group included 758 infants fed from wells with low nitrate
L'hirondel J, L'hirondel J-L (2002). Nitrate and man: toxic, harmless, or beneficial? Wallingford,
Oxfordshire, UK: CABI Publishing.
Manassaram DM, Backer LC, Moll DM (2006). "A review of nitrates in drinking water: maternal
exposure and adverse reproductive and developmental outcomes." Environ Health Perspect 114 (3):320-
327.
Parsons ML (1977). "Current research suggests the nitrate standard in drinking water is too low." J
Environ Health 40 (3): 140-142. -
Shuval HI, Gruener N, "Epidemiological and toxicological aspects of nitrates and nitrites in the
environment." Am J Pub Health 62:1045
National Research Council (1995). Subcommittee on Nitrate and Nitrite in Drinking Water. Nitrate and
Nitrite in Drinking Water. Washington, D.C.: National Academy Press.
van Maanen JMS, Albering HJ,de Kok TMCM, van Breda SGJ, Curfs DMJ, Vermeer ITM, Ambergen
AW, Wolffenbuttel BHR, Kleinjans JSC, Reeser HM (2000). "Does the Risk of Childhood Diabetes
Mellitus Require Revision of the Guideline Values for Nitrate in Drinking Water?" Environ Health
Perspect 108 (5):457-461.
Ward MH, deKok TM, Levallois P, Brender J, Gulis G, Nolan BT, VanDerslice J. (2005). "Workgroup
report: drinking-water nitrate and health - recent findings and research needs." Environ Health
Perspect 113 (11): 1607-1614.
Weyer, P (2001). "Nitrate in drinking water and human health." A review paper prepared for the
University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign Agriculture Safety and Health Conference held in March
2001. <http://www.cheec.uiowa.edu/nitrate/health.html> (Retrieved from Web site March 13, 2007.)
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Proposed Local Rule for South Deschutes County
Question for the Board
March 13, 2007
Public Hearing
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March 13, 2007
TO: Deschutes County Commissioners
Re: Local Rule for Onsite Wastewater Treatment Systems in S. Deschutes County
1) I feel strongly this should be stopped or put on hold until all studies have been completed.
2) The notices sent with tax statements are so vague, that unless you were aware of the
groundwater protection rule in the future, you would not understand what it meant. As
an advocate for seniors, I know most of them did not.
3) Ms. Rich has had several years to put her findings together and regardless of her opinion,
we are interested and willing to become educated about this.
4) We love our community and are very interested in keeping its beauty. Allow the citizens
of La Pine, in cooperation with the government, to look into the most efficient solution.
We still have time.
5) People are skeptical of government and the driving force behind this, how the facts were
entered or deleted, in order to reach their conclusion about the nitrates, now and in the
future.
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BOCC Public Hearing
March 13, 2007
Groundwater Issues - La Pine
Exhibit I
South Deschutes county means the
area contained in Townships 19„20,
21, and 22 and Ranges 9 10, and 11
More Information
Available:
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Proposed Local Rule for South Deschutes County
Deschutes County Community Development Department proposes
to adopt a Local Rule as a new chapter of the Deschutes County
Code. This rule will require the use of onsite wastewater treatment
systems that protect the drinking water source for the residents of
south Deschutes County. The rule will require the use of systems
that reduce nitrogen in addition to treating wastewater for bacteria
and other common contaminants removed by conventional
systems. The proposed rule will:
1. Require the development of bare land to use the best
performing nitrogen reducing systems
2. `Require existing development to meet at least 35% nitrogen
reduction based on the Nitrate Loading Management Model
3. Require all existing systems to be upgraded by January 31,
2017
We need your participation
Please attend public meetings or submit written comments to
Barbara Rich (contact information at left).
La Pine National Decentralized Wastewater Treatment Demonstration
review, appeared to be a logical approach because the installers are familiar with onsite system designs and
components. The combination of businesses did not work well in practice in the demonstration project because the
installers tended to focus first on their installation jobs and secondly on the maintenance needs of the systems under
their care. As a result, maintenance activities tended to become a reaction to alarms or other events with the system
and proactive maintenance was overlooked. Again, the lack of service records makes understanding the interplay in
these situations difficult. It is unclear if the informal nature of training most service providers received contributed
to an informal attitude towards maintenance. The lump sum payment received by some service providers may also
have devalued the preventative service visits because the actual cost of performing service exceeded the amount
collected for the initial two-year warranty for NSF certified systems (NSF, 2000) due to travel time or other factors.
• Homeowner Education
The La Pine Project team noted there appeared to be unwillingness among homeowners to be informed consumers
when it came to onsite systems. This lack of interest was evident even when a poor choice could have deleterious
effects on home life and household function. Part of this mindset may have been due to the fact that most people
wanted nothing to do with their sewage. The other contributing factor may have been the pervasive lack of
minimum educational standards in the installer community. Homeowners typically requested bids from installers
and accepted the lowest without questioning the quality of the bid. This was not necessarily a failing of the
homeowner but may indicate an opportunity for the regulatory agency or certifying institution to improve the
educational and credential requirements for onsite professionals. This role can be a cornerstone in a robust customer
service oriented program because the agency could provide important information on what should be included in a
good bid, including basic provisions to watch for in a service provider contract and basic operating rules for a septic
system
The La Pine Project team believed that homeowner education was essential to the success of a long-term
maintenance program. Therefore, the project team included the following steps in working with homeowners
participating in the project.
1. Individual meetings. Each homeowner participating in the innovative treatment system field test program
met with project staff individually for an information sharing session. Each meeting included discussion of
project goals, expectations for their participation, permit conditions and the contract to be executed
between the property owner and Deschutes County. In addition, project staff included information on the
kinds of treatment systems they might receive and their operating requirements.
2. Written information. After the initial meeting and once participation was assured by completion of all
pertinent legal agreements, the participant received a binder which included the permit, contract with the
county, general O&M information, and specific information about the system they were to receive. The
binder also included log sheets for noting alarms and observations, and space was provided for the service
provider contract, as-built drawings and other pertinent information for their site or system.
3. Site visits. Once the system was installed, the sampling team visited the property monthly for the first year.
This visit became an important point of contact with many of the property owners and a significant amount
of education took place in this fashion. Because of differing work schedules, this approach did not reach
all property owners.
4. Direct mailings. Occasionally, project staff sent informational mailings to the property owners. This
occurred irregularly and was generated more out of need or opportunity than any planned process. For
example, when the county developed a new brochure on the use of anti-bacterial products, the property
owners received a copy directly by mail. Each property owner also received a midterm report to describe
the system and its operation, performance data to date, and the cost of their system and monitoring wells.
Many of the homeowners participating in the project were conscientious and appreciated the information and service
the project provided. A number of homeowners, however, either did not understand or read the information that was
provided. A common example was the use of "every flush" toilet bowl cleaners. Project staff mailed information to
all the participating homeowners and advised them not to use these products because of observed operational
problems in systems exposed to them. However, the sampling team observed several sites where the treatment
system and, on one site, the lysimeter one foot below the drainfield discharged effluent that was distinctly blue it
color.
rteta lest Program Description
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3/12/07
NITRATE REDUCTION PROJECT PROPOSAL
FOR SOUTHERN DESCHUTES COUNTY
Project Description
Deschutes County is proposing a $30-60MM project to upgrade all existing septic systems
in Southern Deschutes County. This proposal describes a viable alternative - exporting
most of the gray water containing nitrates to Northern Deschutes and Crook Counties for
use by the farming communities.
This project includes constructing pipelines and pumping stations to collect gray
wastewater from existing sewage treatment plants and local septic systems in Southern
Deschutes County and transferring the gray wastewater to a storage lagoon in Northern
Deschutes County to be blended in with irrigation water from the Upper Deschutes and the
Wickiup Reservoir. Estimates of daily wastewater volumes range from 2 to 3 million
gallons or 6 to 9 acre feet per day (365 days / yr). Other sources of surplus gray water in
the future could originate from Sunriver, LaPine, Bend and other local treatment facilities.
Costs
Difficult to measure until a detailed feasibility study is completed. Transferring gray water
by a pipeline parallel to natural gas or high voltage transmission corridors may be viable.
Water transmission line would extend north of Bend. Cooperation with many
governmental, utility, and environmental groups is essential during the feasibility study.
Benefits
• Eliminate nitrate problem in Southern Deschutes County allowing for improved
drinking water.
• Allow all vacant lots to be buildable, increasing property tax revenue to county and
local agencies.
• Expanding the marketability of affordable housing in Southern Deschutes County.
• Eliminate all nitrate transfers to the Little and Upper Deschutes Rivers, reducing
green vegetation stream reductions.
• Allows for an increase in winter stream flow on the Upper Deschutes, reducing
bank erosion and increasing fish habitat. Bend's Mirror Pond would not be a major
problem area for silt buildup.
Carl Janse
Spring Ri er
CJae&Ke-1ler
regon Water Wonderland #2
BOCC Public Hearing
March 13, 2007
Groundwater Issues - La Pine
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February 26, 2007
Dave Kanner, County Administrator
Tom Anderson, Director Community Development
Commissioner Dennis Luke,
Commissioner Mike Daly
Commissioner Tammy Baney
Re: Groundwater Nitrates and Health Concerns
Thank you for the opportunity to comment on the health concerns associated
with groundwater nitrates in southern Deschutes County. We remain steadfast
in our conviction that consumption of drinking water in excess of l Omg of
nitrate per liter can and does have harmful effects on human health. This is well
documented and not in dispute among public health professionals. We support
the EPA's current drinking water standard and threshold of 10 milligrams of
nitrate per liter of drinking water to be the upper limit of recommended human
exposure.
We also endorse efforts to limit and control nitrate-nitrogen accumulation in the
groundwater from surface and immediate subsurface sources. Nitrate in the
groundwater can and does lead to human exposure especially in areas that draw
a preponderance of drinking water, untreated, from the ground water. Nitrate-
nitrogen accumulation is almost always the result of human and agriculture use
of the land and is exceedingly rare to be the result of natural causes.
We have asked our colleagues with the State Public Health Environmental
Toxicology program to comment on the letter of December 28th, 2006 from Mr.
Steve Wert. We consider our colleagues knowledgeable experts related to
human health associated with environmental toxicology. You will note, in their
attached commentary, that that they refute many of the assertions made in the
Wert letter.
Respectfully,
Daniel W. Peddycord RN, MPA/HA - Public Health Director
Mary Norburg MD, Medical Director BOCC Public Hearing
March 13, 2007
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Daniel Peddycord, Director
Deschutes County Health Department
2577 NE Courtney Drive
Bend, Oregon 97701
Dear Mr. Peddycord,
Attached are comments provided by staff in the Environmental Toxicology
Section and the Drinking Water Program within the Office of Environmental
Public Health, Department of Human Services regarding nitrates found in
Deschutes County.
Please let us know if we can provide further assistance or clarify any
comments in our attachment.
Sincerely,
Dave Stone, PhD
Toxicologist
Ken Kauffman, RS
Environmental Health Specialist
Dennis Nelson, PhD
Geologist
Technical Comments:
The Steve Wert letter, for the most part argues that there are ways that
onsite systems and innovative design and technologies could continue to be
used effectively without restricting development and growth. Most of his
arguments need to be answered by land use planners, building officials and
DEQ onsite folks rather than us because they aren't direct public health
matters. He plainly states that his interest and drive is for continued land
development from which he profits directly and from which his clients
would profit.
General comment 1: This is an argumentation about fairness of the
county's regulations toward individual property owners.
General comment 2: This is argumentation about the validity of USGS
modeling work done for the county in support of their regulatory plan.
General comment 3: In this section, Wert argues that nitrates aren't really a
threat to health. He is clearly out of his field of expertise. Specific
comments related to the health issue are detailed below:
A. It appears that Wert's own reading of some of the literature leads him
to conclude that ingested nitrates do not cause harm. His search is
apparently very small and focuses only on a couple of articles that he
believes supports his opinion. He also does not understand fully what the
articles he cites are really saying. In particular, the Knobeloch et al.
(2000) article he cites and attaches, actually concludes that families on
private wells should test their water at least annually and avoid drinking
water that has more than 10 mg of nitrate nitrogen per liter.
B. Wert states that CDC "no longer considers methemoglobinemia a
reportable disease." He apparently takes this to mean that CDC does not
consider the condition to be harmful. He is surely wrong about that.
Disease reporting laws and rules are traditionally for states to determine,
and I am not sure where he heard or read that CDC doesn't consider it
reportable.
C. We have not read the Hirondel book he cites. He understands it to say
that nitrates "have been wrongly implicated" in MET. The chemistry of
nitrates, nitrites and disease causation is complicated; and it is true that gut
conditions and microbial flora have important roles in nitrate metabolism,
but there is no question that ingested nitrate is an enormous and key factor
in methemoglobinemia causation.
D. MET and its injurious effects are not limited to infants as Wert
suggests. As the county fact sheet clarifies, there are a wide range of
susceptible ages and conditions in adults, children and infants.
E. Wert makes much of the claim that there have been few recent
fatalities attributed to MET. I don't know what his source of information
is, but there are many acute MET injuries, some of which are fatal each
year. There are many agents other than nitrate/nitrites including
medications, CO inhalation and others, but he is wrong that MET is a rare
or benign disorder.
F. One should not look only at fatalities attributed to MET. Oxygen
deprivation is a very serious condition, and even in subacute, nonlethal
cases, there can be serious and permanent damage to the brain and
neurological system. This would be especially true for fetuses, infants and
children whose nervous system is rapidly developing and very susceptible
to oxygen deprivation. Other less serious conditions may include diarrhea
and irritability.
G. The fact that we have effective ways of treating MET is no argument
that we should not try to prevent it. There is always a delay between
discovery and effective treatment during which lasting harm can be done.
Prevention needs to be the objective. Treatment, even when effective is a
failure to truly protect the susceptible.
H. Wert mentions small studies in which administration of nitrate failed to
produce symptoms. This is not surprising because humans and animals
display a range of susceptibility. Drinking water regulations are aimed at
protecting the most susceptible, who are harmed at exposure levels below
those that most healthy individuals would not show demonstrable harm.
I. Wert's claim that he can find no "clinical" evidence that nitrates are
harmful and his claim that nitrogen is essential for life show a profound
lack of understanding or a deliberate distortion of difference in
physiological forms and processes involving nitrogen utilization in the
body.
J. Wert inconsistently argues against the validity or need for a duly
processed, long-standing national drinking water standard when a large
part of his other arguments are that we need to abide by uniform, accepted
standards. If uniform standards are optimal for land use, onsite sewage,
etc., then why is this not valid for public health?
In items 4 and 5, Wert returns to arguments based on his ideas about equity
and how government should operate.
The second document for comment is excerpts from Jason Churchill. His
summary shows a better understanding of the role of nitrate in MET
causation, but he makes some serious errors and draws the erroneous
conclusion that "nitrates are not harmful." This individual apparently has
a direct economic incentive for the position he is arguing.
Churchill makes much of the fact that certain small studies failed to show
or produce measurable MET in exposed subjects. In light of the
complexity of nitrate/nitrite metabolism, and the wide range of human and
animal susceptibilities it is not surprising that one can fail to document
harm or illness in a given study design. All one can say of such a study is
that it failed through smallness, flawed design or faulty measurement of
outcomes. There is no lack of scientific evidence that dietary nitrate
harms susceptible infants, children and adults.
Churchill includes in his article a listing of common vegetable foods that
can contain very significant levels of nitrate. He states that these levels
known to be in food prove that "nitrates are not harmful." He apparently
fails to understand several important principles:
A. Any single food item in our diet is consumed in small quantities
compared to the amounts of water ingested each day. Food servings are
typically a few ounces, rarely more than 4 ounces while water is consumed
in amounts ranging from 8 oz. to 75 oz. per day (two to 50 times more than
a typical food serving). It is unlikely that any particular food, especially
one with a high nitrate content will be consumed every day or on a regular
basis. For these reasons it is incorrect to equate food exposures with water
exposures. Drinking water nitrates have from two to 50X as much
significance as nitrate levels in any given food.
B. The food nitrate chart is easily misinterpreted also by persons looking
at the high-end of the nitrate ranges for each food. Generally one is
exposed to foods from a variety of sources over time, so the nitrate level
for a given item tends to average itself. Note that the low end of the
nitrate levels for most food items is below or near the drinking water limit
for nitrate, and as explained in "A" food nitrate is less significant on a daily
exposure basis, because of the relatively small amount of each food
consumed.
C. One needs to consider that ingested and absorbed nitrates are additive,
so it is very misleading to compare sources against another. The total
exposure is combined, and since food nitrates are largely unavoidable, their
presence makes it crucial that water levels be held to an even lower level,
in order to keep the combined exposure within safe limits.
Churchill concludes that "regulators" generally use nitrates as an indicator
of other more important contaminants, rather than a direct source of
harm. The finding of high nitrates in surface or groundwater is often
recognized as an indication that industrial, agricultural, animal or human
wastes are reaching the water; but it is incorrect to say that nitrates are not
recognized as dangerous and harmful to humans, animals and the
environment as well.
Additional Comments on the Wert Letter:
The Environmental Health Perspectives article that is included by Steve
Wert's paper is really an advocacy piece in a peer-reviewed journal. The
author, Avery is affiliated with the Hudson Institute, which cannot be
considered a disinterested party.
While the reported cases of methemoglobinemia linked to water are
infrequent, this is probably related to much successful public health
intervention and improvements in sanitation and general nutrition.
There are other possible health outcomes (beyond blue-baby) that may be
linked to nitrates in drinking water: increased rates of bladder & ovarian
cancer in women, potential congenital malformations and miscarriages,
uncertain association with type I diabetes, and hypotension as a result of
decreased venous pressure.
With respect to Wert's comment that the USGS groundwater model was not
reviewed or validated by a disinterested third party, it is important to
understand that USGS did not develop this model in isolation. Other
hydrogeologists, including staff from the Oregon Water Resources
Department and from DHS, were involved to various extents during the
development of the model. Also, the survey has a very extensive peer
review process within their agency, involving review by scientists from
other regional offices. We are aware of the survey staff involved in
developing the model and are well aware of the process and data collection
that the survey goes through in putting together such efforts. They a history
of very careful work. We have no doubt that the model prepared by the
survey is representative of the area of concern.
DCHD Fact sheet:
The "Health Effects" fact sheet developed by the county is well done and
accurate. Specific comments include:
Comment on section: "What is Nitrate and Where Does it Come From?"
There is too much emphasis on nitrate being a naturally occurring substance
in groundwater. In fact, there are only a few geological environments that
contribute nitrate directly to the groundwater. Most of the time, the presence
of nitrate-nitrogen, at any concentration, and particularly above 1.0 mg1L,
indicates a pathway from the surface3 or immediate subsurface to the
aquifer. It follows, therefore, that the more sensitive is the aquifer (e.g.
shallow and unconfined), the more susceptible the groundwater is to
influence from land use practices. The fact sheet does correctly point out the
potentially dangerous sources of nitrate as a function of land use patterns.
The fact sheet should mention that seasonality of nitrate concentrations, and
the utility of testing the water in the late summer and early spring to capture
that variation.
Comment on section: "How Do I Remove Nitrate from My Drinking
Water?"
This discuss is adequate and we appreciate the mention of the problem with
the "universal treatments" of boiling water and the use of "mechanical"
filters & chlorination to remove nitrate. We recommend a brief clarification
of the difference and pros/cons of point-of-use vs. point-of-entry treatment -
that they should base their decision on whether or not treatment is necessary
on the analysis of their water. In addition, they should consult with a local
treatment supplier who is familiar with the character of local groundwater to
obtain a level of treatment that is consistent with their specific situation.
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