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BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS RECEHED
-MINUTES-
June 27, 1976 JUL 10 1978
11:00-11:50a.m.
r B~;1J G G S
.APPEAL BY: KEN SMITH-THE REMINGTOI~
ARMS Mobile Home Park RE: For a mobile ome park in Redmond.
Applicant for a conditional use.
Chairman Young opened hearing by introducing Ccmrni_ssi,onnrs Bob
Montgomery, Don Grubb, -nd himself. Young said this was a de novo hearing.
Young: "'ore have a hearing here this morning considering an appeal
of a Planning Cnrimission decision made on May 24, 1,978, granting a
conditi..onal. ,_,se perms t to 'Kenneth _~mith IF—) develop a. mobile home subdivision.,
approximately 30 acres,on southen.st corner of Hemlock Road and Northeast
Way. Specifically identified as ta.x lot 100, section 9. "appeal has
been filed by Mike Kilpatrick, AttornAy, First we will have those in
favor of the appeal and then those appealed."
Paul Speck, attorney: "T thought since this w~:i.s a de novo nearing, we
would commence the hearing like we would an ordinary hearing. Another
words, we are the applicant for the conditional use. Is that correct?"
Grubb: "That Tf!oul_d be proper procedure."
Young: "Okay, proceed."
Speck: "If it please the Board, my name is Paul. Speck. T am an
attorney representing Mr. Yen Smith, who is the applicant for the
condi.tiona.l use. Before the hearing, I would iike to place the evidence.
Since this is a de novo hearing, I would Like you to take notice of
several items. Exhibit A is the application and a statement in support
of the application x. ~bi± B is the Staff Report. Exhibit C is the
Comprehensive Plan for T, 0 car the Redmond. area,. TFie area. in question
is shown on that plan as Urban Residentia.i Area and has been so
shown. since the plan was ori.ginally adopted. Exhibit D is the
official. Zoning Map for the Redmond area, the _ esc Futes County plan
surrounding Redmond. The area is designated on the official zoning
map as R-1. Fxhlbit F which is a written memorandum by Paul Speck
regarding Section 11. of the Deschutes County zoning ordinance.
Exhibit r-•-s memorandum submitted by the Deputy District Attorney,
13i.1.1. McCann. Fxhibi t G In an a.ppreis al report from Mr. John R. Gordon.
Mr. Gordon ;aas formerly ?n -.ppraiser for Deschutes County. He is
now employed as an independent appraiser and does work extensively
t'Proughout 7rsrchutes County, Mr. Gordon has taken three mobile
home subdivisions within the Rend area which he feels are comparable
to the proposed condition~l_ use. The three are Crown Villa, Romaine
Village, and Cen.t.ury DrIve "~orile Home Park. Speck said that mobile
home parks such a,s these do not hPve. adverse impact on adjacent property
value. Exhiri.tt:. H Mr. _?orning will be discussing this particular
map. It is a. Deschutes runty zoning map of the Redmond area which
Illustrates th.e sewer service boundary and water service boundary
within the Redmond area. Exhibit 1--Site Plan for the development
of the Remington. Arms No},11e, Home Park.
In a.ddit-lon I would !7' e to offer the proposed 1A'indings of Fact
just for the Cu:--issJ o7-f-.~rs rise chile Mr. Horning giver his presentation.
APPY L !~YY s KEN ` M-YPH-Remi ngto.n ArT Fare 2
June 2?, 1978
The land in question, as you will he=ir, is presently used for agri-
cultural purposes, -peer,(=;ntly zoned R-1, prosently planned. for Urban
Residential Use. However, because of the app:?icable LCDC Goals,
speci..''i.cal..ly Gon? 3, we r. a.•ae addressed the questioning of the
land. 1't is our position that the land be irrevocebl.y comriltted to
residential use. The reason it o committed is because it is
surrounded. by p.:sporty .r ich 3s zor.f-;d r^si.dentia.l, ^.rd it fir. s been
planned since 1970-71 fn , e"identi a1. use. it Js t?ctinded can the
south west by 14?e C'l ty of Redmond se*^ er interceptor. ?t is bounded on
the west, by a ten inch =eater main. :`end tn.e file vti1_l indicate that
the reighr,ors In the adjacent zones intend to Oelrelnp, the zones for
conventiona.l.-resi.denti al development. And as yot) will hear from
Moro. ~lornin.g, the property w111 be w th.i.n the proposed Urban Growth
Lounda.ry fcr the ^ity of Pedmond. 1`t is. therefore, our z)osition that
Croat is nom'- ;applicable. The c,,ther Goals which are applicable are
t
addressed r1nd will.. be addreFr7ed. by Mr. Horning. Mr. Horning will.
pree:ent the specif r.s reg:5~rding the application."
Horning, engineer for the mobile pa.rlt, development: "Cur firm met with
the '71ty of Redmond and the planning consultant for the City of
Redmond The subject property lies at a. point that, is contiguous
with existing city limits. The water service bc,)rda.ry a.t the present
time Is the existing city limit linr~ and a.s tre reople annex,then
that naturally moves out. This Is 35 acres. On the north Is Hemlock
Road. On the :,rest i^ Northwest Market Way, vlhich is P 'County Collec-
tor ~,nd which also feeds down to highway 126 w is i^ the tcate
Highf~~Vy between Redmond and Sisters, As you know by the County's Five-
Year Plan, the extens'lon of lu:tler tai-{c', h-e Cc•tlnty calls Fog(?) is
within the File-Yea-In Plan, as aR a portion of Helrrholz Road.
So there is gd.equa.te tY•affic f9cl-1_1ties for these people to disperse
from t.hi.s aresv .
The red line is the sewer service boundary that has been agreed upon
throtz. EPA. lr t-11 king with the Planning Consultant, the Urban
Growth Boundary, is well outside of this area, but it y.a4 not been com-
pleted yet or -tdcpte;d~ Put he said this point, w-,s well withi..n. the
projected Iir`-„y7 Growth Bourda.ry, as well as being well inside where
they plan to put i n the. sewer.
What we have clone is prepared a plan showing the development. This is
Northwest; 'day and ?leml_ock Street. The green areas, are the common
park. The yellow area is recreation ~:1711_dings. Mere will be tennis
courts on i t, The co-tznon area down below will. be for parking of the
recreational vehicles and further storage. The F;ra.y area is the
outline of the roads, and you can see the individual lot lines for the
different spaces. This is a development plan sae feel. will. take over
a five-year period to develop entirely.
?Id few of the points we would like to touch on, Mr. Speck covered the
agri_cultural part of it even. though it has been zoned something else.
1n the zoning, all the a.res dotted is R-1 zone."
Grubb ; "What is that white area above all that on the map?"
Horning: "That is still presently A-1- because there has never been a
request for a zone change on that.
APPEAL BY: KEN SMTTH-Remington Arms Page 3
June 27, 1978
There is a shortage of avai_1able mobile home sites within the Redmond
area.. And checking with the various facilities that are in
existence in Redmond, tr,ose south of town, and north. and west of town,
there are no vacant i.es and. they do have waiting lists-for people to
move in. We feel there is a ptxbli c need to provide a. moderately priced
housing of this type, on this development. We will be making under this
five-yeas plan 200 sites for mobile home placement, thereby satisfying
a public need. for such s_'.tes. As you. know, mobile home living is
low to moderately priced compared with the cost of conventionally con-
structed homes, We will have a. recreation area and common area in it.
They will. be limiteal by covenants and restrictions which will control
the nature and. placement of the structures within the area.
Screening of the development, for the benefit of the adjacent properties,
will. be . done with a type of fence that is around the mobile home park
that, is around Romaine Vila age, which is very attractive. This
development Is similar in nature to Romaine Village and property values
in Romaine have continued to rise. So we can conclude that this area
will undoubtedly enhance the values of the property surrounding the
development. We feel that we are going to provide an esthetically
pleasing development and that these are allowed in the other zones,
so there probably will. be more of these within the Oou.nty.
One of the main things, follot•,ring the LCDC_ Goals, we feel the Public
Housing Goal Is met:., as At will provide an alternative hoisting' choice,
of which there is a recognized demands
The site is very close to the schools. Tt is in walking distance to
the schools in town. The high school is located close to the site.
Are there any questions?"
Young: 'ITS there cons; derable residence in this area""
11 Horning : "At the present. time, along Northwest Way, t'r c re :re just
ind.ivi.dua.1 residences L1.1ong these properties. Down T, this area,
there are several residences. On this corner is a multi-family
apartment unit. And, down or toward the school. Is mufti-11'amily..
apartments. We have talked with Mr. Fini-pple with the City of
Redmond and ho said sewer and water has beer obtained from them as
soon as we. have thi. s project underway."..
Montgomery* 'IT' 1n me t wi th the ' ty of Rernnd, w hat were their
feelings regarding this?"
Horning: "They are readv to service.
They
will provide
us
water."
Montgomery: "T.Ae Cilty !'o"_~ncil Is it
favor
of this type
of
development?"
Jim Morrison: "T h ve a letter from the Gity. T'll just read the
excerpts that will, answer your ques ti onG :
'Although, the "ity will provide regions 1 ^ewage tr. ea.tment
needs to the property located within their sewage tr€;atment
service boundaries, certain conditions must be met by
the property oi.,ner.' lSc, they have said that they would
supply to this area, and one of the things is that
thev bq- e to submit, to annexation
APPF'tI, D' Y- K N7SMITH-RemI ngton Arms
June P7 1978
The other port.l on that they were talking about had
proposed water system that had been proposed pr-1cr
water. They were going to put in their own privat,
and the City of Redmond was opposed to t}-ie private
1'4_ty a..id they would service it themselves and not
t,7-ter system."
Page 4
to do wi th the
to the City serving
eater services
water system and
have a private
Yontgomery: `-fou indicated that it wouid iook 111,1- Romaine Village.
Your streets are. all ,+--fight lines. They don't have the esthetic
value of Romaine >ge Nhi.cF_ L' weaving steets.'a
Horning: "Yes. Thst is right."
Montgomery, "About the RTC Vehicles. Hoer will that be ader._ua.tely
fenced so people cannot see tha.t2 is it a tall fence?"
horning- "The fence at Romaine V111age is over six feet tall, and
It Is on boar. d -vi t;h concrete pi.l is tere(?).:?nd- they have the -mall
bulb, on trop for M rrht t.. night. "
Montgomery : "Tt i:1-71 he nupposed.?y gut of the public vi-ew if this
is approved? Whpt type of mob-~.1P homes are anticirated in there?
TA_t:t1e old Ingle wires?"
Horning: "The R? T area zrs1.1..1 be ,)ut of ^i_gh-t. T}-is develooment has
been designed for h-isi c-Jly the good home.,-double ~.-T{ de with the
composition roof. 'T'here are no single wide spares. rhe spaces--re
50 x 1-00 . "
rrtxbb : "Have yoga approached the Redmond C"ty Planning Commission
a.t al.
Horning: "We have been with them in a-311. procedures in going through the
--unty;, and what they have asked for. is a sign-,-and-censk-:nt to
annexatlon which wi 1.i provide us, with the titer.
rorubb: "That lo the Plan-rA-ng '"omm.ission?""
Iorning: "No. Thaw IF the City Council-."
Grubb: IINTo. T eras wondering if this has 1 -pen '--ought to the Redmond
Planning CcammY s s.on?''
Horning : "No, T doY ° * think it 'gas. Put t r,as Went through their
tr_ff. They do ask for recnmme.ndat1nns from the '"ounty Staff."
Montgomery' "T`t,-. ^ha.irmen, it seems to me, and T. on?-y know from what
I have ~e;ad in the paper 19tel.y, thnt the City of Redmond passed
an ordinance TN=i th no mob . le homes within the -I ty '.;.miffs, not even
replaceable mobile homes. Another words, If your home "ails downy-ou
can't puts another one ire there. it
Horning- . unless ?_t wq.s in park. That was meant for individual
lots. This wo2l d I,e R. planned development.' T t~-d.nk they <,re trying
to avoid having mobile homes scattered throughout the city."
Young- "Anything fi-irth.er? Tf not then, !e will, now hear from those
PPE.'! L, BY: KEN SMTTN- Ro-?i ngton Arms
Jude 27., 1078
opposed to the mcb _l ° hr,m parka'
Page _5
Mrs. John Perky : 'IT .i ive just south of this :^nnplex. Tn the first.
place, they are calling it Southlv!est Market. T~moved there a year
ago =:,_nd. T was tn_ld. It err: 5> called Southwest 19th. That is my
nclrlr°r;n. "fit it the only road from Antler, from the city boundary line,
going north. Everyone from 'rooked Rivera from the Terrebonne area
that lives west a.nd north of Terrebon.r.e, come down Northwest 19th
and go'-directly- downa Two pieces of property sorath of me is a. cross
street, and the cross street is ."antler. From, the time they leave
that high school. Ord crass that intersection, it is 55 miles an hour.
That 19th street is not wide enough.. They have problems now with cars;
men trying to get to work; people coming home. T don't know what
another 200 cars or 400 cars would do. That -is agricultural land,
also. My house and property sits on a knoll or slope, and then it
drops down. and there i^ X31 approximate acres in that little
area that i c plowable. They have grown potatoes there, and other things.
T realize that on 33 acres Mr. Smith could not make it with agricul-
ture, and make a living. T am not objecting to development, but I
axrt objecting to 200 mobile homes on 33.3 acres as 1 unders'_:and it is.
T don't see how It ran look like Romaine Village. There iE. not
a. tree one on that niece of property. Tt has all been tilled. There
is no way that you could help but see it, anyone who lives anywhere
in that Valley. Tt is out there stark and vivid. There is not wen
a bluff to hide It, Aside from that, moe.t of r.as who have homes
there are not ess than one acre. 1 understand there is a water
main in the read, There is a moratorium. I can't hook into the
city water. T -L r,- a we All. my neighbors surrounding me are on
cisterns. They drag their water from the ditch. The ditch runs
across my property. It runs across all of this property. Tf they
d.ontt get an easement to hook into the septic tack., are they
going to put in 200 septic tanks: in there? People on up the way,
environmentally they are going to be drinking somebedy elses cess-
gool. bec+tise a certain amount of that water does go bask under the
round and come to the srarI Ce. T think this is wrong$ There
g
are four mobil.' home pa.r;ecs around us within a mile. 1"urther north,
there is a. very large mobile home park there. 1 am not saving that
they don't need the housing, but they don't need it there.
T also have a. letter here fr Mr. "Umn.er.s,. Tie Tives directly across
from this property, ri_r;ht s=traight across or Helmholz and 19th.
kSecretnry did not receive letter. Tt Baas given to 17ommissi.oners. )
Shirley Krabel ; '°M addl.ress; is 916 N.W. 35th. I wasn't prepared to
make a. speech. We tralrel this main line the some way the Perkys
do. We ?,,carry about the ccngestion,, Our 40 acres isn't th.e a.gri cul-
tur. al Land that this. 35 acres~ is. And yet, w-- don't want to have
ours split yap either. We are in agreement with the five acre
minimum or even the ten 1 ,ecquse T think we are too :short of a.g. hand
in Deschutes County the wriy It i Mathematic^11y 200 !or 'f"O )
mob le homes. Is he+-jween. six or seven mobiles on one acre. nd the.
gen.tl_eman re.fore us mentioned that he is going to have a tennis court
and an area for recreryti until vehicles plus roads, and. T don't see
or T don't enders tend hov.z m=any do,a.ble wi..des could be on one acre.
My guess woll id ,-.,e like twelve or fourteen., If you have tennis courts
AP PF ` L PY : K_FN SMTTH-Remington Arms
June 27, 1.P76
Page 6
and. all of the other things, Now it sounds greet, but when you get
these double wides, l!}. wide, or even triple 173-d.es,1t is going
to be pretty= congested.. To reinforce what Mrs. :Perky-:said, if
each house has one vehicle, that is 201r cars. How many }lames now
have only one, espec_Tal? y if they have high school kids. There
could be as many as two or three cars to `L ~~or.'_l.e. f°
Yc,urg:"We will now c.'l.ow ten minutes for reb, tal. and cross
exanlnation."
Horning: °"_T would like tc address Y pci.nt that hct.h. of the ladies
brought up about ^io, thwest Way, 4orth rest 19th is the City's
numbering for the areEi, rl.:tt it does stop at nt'ler to the ?point where
It turns off at t~nt~er E;nd rr('-es .rth In Nc.-thlvres-- ?4-..~. y?;Y' t:he
}o t
standards
~L "'lilt in . 107he County
c~ffi.r.~•.al. recd,,~dr ~ ~ _-O-?d
for a collector. A '--Ire path was hulit out cn eRch side of it. The
paths hid a. lot of room so the children could rude their bikes to
schoc.l. The thing is, •r,e c,o have, the cornm3 tment for the sewers.
We do, hpve an agreement. ,-,,it.h the people south of us who have filed
a su.bdivis:Ion inside the 'County and adia.c..ent to the 'City. They have
lust filed a 32 lot su}?divi sign ~-.nd. we have ?r agreement Tf*ith them
that they are serving Como lots with sewer, nrd Ae io d code 3_n
our south T)(-,tindery there and not go over anybody el!,Ps land.
The grater agreement is there g1th the consent for annexation. TiO.ll
point; out that tniki_ng ,,,ith the Plenni.ng onsul.ta.nt, he expressed to
us tha.t we were, well within the Uzrnn ~'7' Srth Boundary w),nere there
will be a lot of density in the City of Redmond. ,•;?c are also inside
the sewer service di_st.ri_ct. The property has been zoned R-1 and
has gone through those hearings n.nd ha.s been approved. We went
tbroogh the Planning ('cmm ssion hearing at which time people had the
opportunity to address the agriculture lots in those areas. But
as you can see by their map, which is adopted, it i.° shown; as
residential, end part of the future ci.t.y."
K-rabel: "How many mobi.l_es are going to be or, an arse then?"
Horning: "50 x luu foot ?o±;~;,°a
Krabel: "I understr.nd that Ttedmond has this new rule where a house
has to be on i. 6,000 sou ire. foot lot` This Could be 6o x 100.
Now yo?.:. have 5,000 square feet. How do yo°.x get arot.?nd that?"
Horning: "Tl:.ro . the P1-.nned Unit Developnent. You include the common
land into the KO x 100."
Montgomery, 1tWher. -v^ s this zoned. R-l.? :oome time back when the
Comprehensive Plan wps drawn up? Or is this recent?"
Speck t°Tt is shown on the map. Tt was zoned in 1973."
Montgomery: "So this has been residential for five years."
Krabel.: "rho is going to maint:ai,n this? Words are pretty cheap.
Chaparral. Estates is a gr_od example of how P. mobile park was
AP?'EAL BY: KEN SMTTii-Remington Arms page 7
Jane 27, 197
developed then nobody followed the rules and regulati
Speck- „They p.rcpnse to form a_ Proper ty-ri0meowners Associ. atien."
Grubb: "Then the Lots Jr this mobile home perk w Ill be for sale?"
Ken Smith--, "There 7tviil l br~ some."
Grubb: "When you spy ~-o-e, do you knci hove rra.ny^"
Smith: "Tt will den-nd on economics."
Grubb: "Basically, then, it will not. be run like a rental nark?"
Smi th : "No. " .
Montgcrnery: "Mr. Chairman, then again it w-711, not be run like
Romaine Vlll.pge. There is well. over 75% fcr s-le (or bought) homes
in Romaine and then some. Tt takes pride in ownership of lots. T
was under the Impression. ghat thi ^ was all for sale."
SmiSmith: "~~es, their will all "he for =ale when we get it done. But there
are just so many over a five year period."
Montgomery: "There will. be no rental units put; there? Tt will be
pride in ownership with their own individdtta.l tote?'°
Smith: "I misunderstood. T am sorry. Yes, they wi1_:' be for sale."
Young: "Tf that Is all the questions, we now have a. rebuttal
period."
Perky: "T still don't know how they intend to move this traffic in and
out without placing a large burden on Northwest T9th tlvorthwest
Way). T dontt see how the traffic will move in and out without an
alternate route, and there is no alternate route tr:rough there.
There has been one death there already because of excels speed. 7f
you complain about the speed" the sheriff will tell you they have
no way of policing that. Deschutes County is just too big to do It.
T just don't understand h(.-,,w people are going to move i_r -).n out of
that area without multitude of congestion. We have trouble with
the busses and congestion during the school year. The steet isn't
large enough T just can't imagine what ?OU more cars would do.`"
Virginia Myers : '"T just wonder how they car. put. 204 mobile homes on
this and still_ rnsintain the esthetic value. What t. ey say they
are going to do, is that going to be coverer]. by covenants and
restrictions that will be strictly adhered to? Or is it simply a
thing, IT asr= going to do It,' and then in a matter or two or three
years it is still, not done? I would like to knoe if we are going
to have something cnncrete and in writing that everybody will. be
able to refer to In T,!r,Intainirg esthetic value and still. put 2U l}
mobile homes on less than 35 acres?"
APPEAL BY: KEN SM7TH-Reming-ton Arms
June 27, 1,978
Page 6
Speck: "T did not harm tree typed up, but there r:I.r(, Proposed
Covenants and. Restrictions. Mr. Smith plans. to rugs very tidy and
high quality mobile park. And i.n a.dditior to the Homeowners
Association, there are covenants .^nd conditions which will govern
how people will use their property, the type of landscaping, the
type of screening, the type of skirting, essentially the life
within a. mobile park. And =again, T believe, Tarry Romaine of
Romaine tlill.age is being called in as a. consultant."
Myers-, "Will peon-,, be required to sign thr. covenants and restrictions
before they buy?"
Speck- "Tt i ^ part. of the purchase of the property."
Krabel.: "T am still wondering Liow they will enforce everything.
After everything is sold, tree or3 g .nal. owners e nn move to Hawaii
or any place. Private owner;srip doesn't mean too much.. Some people
don't give a hoot. Th-)t is what T am worrying grout. We, are
going to be there ^nd looking at this.. Tile owners might be. living
in Bend or uaT~Ta i or some rl qce -miles .away. They don't care as
long as they `fit their money out of It."
Montgomery: "Thi.^ land is zoned R-l. a.t tri.s time. Tf these
gentlemen were asking; to put in single family JvTellings, k-ow many
homes cou d they met on this 3 acres?"
'\'orrison: "They ^ould out. 1-n ?U4- It
Montgomery: "Tt is Y?asi.c~.11y immaterial... Tf it wp° mobile 11omes or
single fe.mil.y dwellings., i.t could go either way? Right? It would
be something like Till.i.c,,~m vi.lTage. This plan is zoned properly
to do this. But we are de-i di ng now what they re going to do."
Krabel:"T have talked with some of the developers, and t~ley fir,ur(-,
3 112 houses per acre. daw that is a far cry from this six or
seven mobiles; on one acre. So to me there -is a tremendous di''fer-ence."
Grubb : "Mr. Chairman, vhen sewer and water is available, they can
go down. to 7,000 square feet for single family dwelling. hnd this
is what, is brought up. That is what can be put on there right
now because of city sc-, er ,nd .-ja.ter."
Y'orni.ng' "TY,e City's square foot standard is lower than the
.
County's. Tie i^c:anty'S is 7,000 _an,-! the City's ie 6,500
T'..)ntgcme.ry•"Tf there is no :ewer or no City water, there is, no
__l.. L r~ park? ` -,i won't hrnve anything out tk ere other thin R-1
b ~nr
,cre mini.mum., whatever the case ma.y be ?r'
Sm.; , ,l. d r't knrV uxe w0l.17d be able to develop a. mobi.l.e
hom, 1,Je rc~_xl.a pro')abl.;; go back on the coil type and design.
rants t nk type systenS. But T think ti l development
;.1..:^f y 1- i nrcrni.sed re;--0er inside the boundaries, that is a
mute ciues,t,i rn.'1
Montgomery:
"No, the point
is, if you go back to e ' nglf,
d
f=?.mily
have
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tner. you dry _
o
septic tank. Then you
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APMEnTj BY: YEN SMTTH-Reming ton Arms
June ?7, 1978
Page 9
crave system. ?l sn, another thing a15out speed cost- r- 1, If it is,
55 on that str.-F t, T ~,,rould assume It is not all thst impossible to
hrntre the steed reduced?"
tlorning: "Once the levelopren.t Is In there, cr the first phase is in
there, where you have enough residents along the street, the State
Speed Control ??oa.rd. will reduce tl e speed li_m- t. But as long as
it is an open area, enerally t,hF3 basicrule applies. es. You h2.ve to
have `o many resider~c It-'r-In 100 feet to qualify for reduction
of s p e ra . "
Mont,,rn1,-'ry: "Tf T m?y,Mr„ Ch=airman? 'Al_1 of these thi.ntgs ,,Te have
talked aboutyetc, etc., will be In the deed restrictions . ? It
tr
Trorning: "'Yes, then 111
Montr,omery: "Zoning „ ~)latinns or whgatever cT i.1 be in the deed
re stri.c ti. ons ?tr
Spe ck : "Yes , they , '-11, "
Yong : "Time Is up ~ Hearing is closed.. Tt is., n~,-,T the prerogative
of the Board to take action fit this time or ,le may defer action to
a later date."
Yontgomery : "Let 771,: go over this one mere time. Tf there Is no
eewer or city !cater, there will, be no mobile home park. The
speed thing. ?'!_e County does not control speed on the roads. But
T think we can be instrureental in doing something on the speed or
suggesting to the State. On. the deed restrictions, we would insist
that thev be such that everybody knows where they stand. Mr. Chairman,
on RV vehicles. Ncthirlg is uglier than a bi,nch of old trailers
or weekend campers parked cut in a back area. That should be
fenced. Rased upon what vie have talked `b. o?.lt, T wot7_ld recommend
th,gt .,ie uphold the Planning Commission decis'on.r'
Grubb: "I sec-)nd the motion."
Young: "Motion has been m-3de and. =ecnnded to uphold the Planning
Commission's decis;on and deny the appeal.Any further discussion?
The discussion, of course, is limited to the Board of Commissioners
and any questions they might want to ask."
Grubb: "isle should have included i.n ou.r finding of fact that we look
at watery sewer, speed, and deed restrictions before a permit is granted."
Gregg Lien: "T di_dn't notice any findings of fact and of course this
Is a de novo hearing and you should come yip with your own findings
or adopt the ones that Mr. Speck has proposed. I haven't seen them
but T assume there are findings of fact, Then add your own
conditions that you feel. will, protect the property owners."
Young: "We will. charge the Planning Department with gathering all of
these exhibits together and n,,m:;ering there or saying A, C, etc."
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June 27, 1976
C,rubb: "Ym. Chairman, i-,ould it be in order to include these findings
of fact, to make a motion on them, an ? to include these with the
motion?"
Montgomery: "nne thing sire did not, discuss, Thin- w11..1 be completed
in five years or .^ss~ ml:iat is in th^ motion, but If It Isn't
what do we do? Sitting here with a. half finished mobile ?-ldme park?"
Young: "Then they go bac1r to the drawing bo rd and start over. That
is what happens."
Specks "The ordinance required a specific date."
Morrison: "Mr. Chairman, T might mention that .five-year date then
would be a part of the site plan requirements. And if that date
expired,, and they had to come back in with a site plan, tae would not
be able to accept it."
Montgomery: "T don't see i tS but T "m pure the intention is there. All
roads built would be to County s tand.c rds ? "
Horning: "To the Planned Development standards."
Montgomery: "So the "ounty will never have to take them over?"
Horning: "No. They wi 11 be maintained by the property owners."
Grubb : "Mr. i r=nan, I move for the amendments to the motion to
include in the motion the findings of fact that have been
submitted along ;,-ith the stipulation for sewer and water ^nd deed
restrictions and high fencing for the Rte lot and speed control."
Montgomery : "I second It."
Young:"These has been an amendment made to th.e motion as stated.
First we will vote an the amendment then we will vote on the motion.
Mr. Grubb?"
Grubb : "T."
Young : "Mr. Montgomery?"
Montgomery: "T."
Young: "Mr. Young also votes I,"
Young: "We will no-w vote on a motion. Mr. Grubb?".
Grubb : "I."
Young : "Mr. Montgomery?"
Montgomery:"T."
Young : "Mr. Young -.J s o :rotes T, So ordered. "
Hearing adjourned. II *50 a.mo
