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BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
JULY 10, 1979 - DAILY MINUTES
Chairman Shepard called the meeting of July 10, 1979 to order at 10:00 a.m.
with all three Commissioners present.
The first matter on the agenda was Commissioner Young and the Planning Department.
Commissioner Young stated that he felt that the people deserved an explanation
as to why all of a sudden there is something in the planning department which has
been ignored for a number of years and why it should be enforced now. Commissioner
Young stated that Craig Smith had "decided to use a term of 'open character' "
when he is processing applications. Commissioner Young also stated that he felt
that this "open character" is detrimental to the people of Deschutes County.
Bill Monroe, Planning Director, went over the planning process for the Commissioners.
The process must conform to three items:
1) state law;
2) LCDC goals and guidelines;
3) the comprehensive land use plan.
Previously, the planning department had not been allowed to use their expertise
in processing applications as they came in; they are now. Bill Monroe defended
his department's procedure for processing applications in some detail.
Commissioner Young stated that it was his belief that Planning and Zoning has
gotten to the point where the welfare of the common man is irrelevant.
There was no action taken.
Next item on the agenda was Boones Borough I. Lynn McKibben was present for
this item. Chairman Shepard turned the meeting over to Mr. McKibben. Lynn
stated that there was a problem concerning Boones Borough I and that Lynn feels
is beyond his engineering/technical knowledge and is more of a value judgment
and believes that the commission.is imminently more prepared to handle that
sort of a decision. Norm Cork(?) is doing the construction on'.the above and
feels that he has reached a point where the road department was asked to do an
inspection on the base material. Mr. McKibben said he went out and looked at
the site and was not of the opinion that the road met the specifications and
based on engineering judgement alone, he did not feel that he could recommend that
road for acceptance into the county road system. Mr. McKibben said the
requirements to build the subdivision have been met already and the reason that
they are planning on going ahead with paving is because of two reasons: 1)
they would like to have this accepted into the county maintained system; 2)
they would like to be able to serve their people. Mr. McKibben is not sure of
their priorities. Because of the base material used, Mr. McKibben would not
be able to recommend accepting this road in the county system. Commissioner
Paulson asked if Mr. McKibben had relayed these feelings to Mr. Herring or to
Mr. Cork or anyone related to the project before it was started. One of the
men related to the project told the Commissioners that he had only talked with
Charlie Plummer when he came-out to the site to give the workers the letter of
acceptance on the first subdivision and if there were any changes other than the
cul de sac, he could get them later. Mr. Herring stated that he did not feel that
Lynn McKibben was even aware of what was being placed on the road surface until
the oil mat was discussed. Mr. Herring stated and was sure that Lynn would verify
this that they wanted to build the best road they could and have it be accepted
into the county maintenance system. Mr. Herring stated that they have been having
big trucks hauling the paving material in and out of that area for some time and
the road base has held up just fine. Mr. Herring said that this road is in a
rural recreational area and does not have to be paved and there aren't any specs
for a recreational road. Commissioner Paulson asked Lynn McKibben if the County
has any written specifications; Lynn said we do and people who build in residential
zoned area are to follow the specifications. Mr. Cork stated that he never heard
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or received anything from the road department concerning any problems of it
being accepted. Lynn said he could empathize with Mr. Cork's viewpoint but
could not in his own mind accept the road. Mr. Cork made the point that the
road he paved had been having 15,000 and 16,000 pound trucks on and the road
still hasn't a break in it and it didn't even buckle through the frost of last
winter. Commissioner Paulson stated that he thought that any good businessman
would want a copy of the specification before he started a project to be sure
that it would be accepted when finished. Commissioner Paulson also stated that
the County should document what its doing, and if it is only going by verbal
assumption, then maybe the County should '.'eat it". Lynn McKibben stated that the
material that Mr. Cork is using is okayed by the State Highway Division to be used
for select..backfill and trenches to fill over sewer pipes etc., it has a fine
strenth and below the base it is stronger than the cinders but what they lack is
the ability to let the water pass through them if they are dirty enough to bind.
Lynn McKibben said that he had proposed to Mr. Cork and Mr. Herring that on top
of this pit run round material that they had in already, they already have in
8 to 10 inch depth, which is sufficient strenth wise but not for drainage, Mr.
McKibben had proposed that they put on top of that either 4 inches of crushed cinders
or 2-212 of hard crushed aggregate. The idea behind doing this is allowing for
water to escape and pave over that. There was further discussion over the paving
and material used for this road.
Mr. McKibben read some of the specification aloud that he felt were not complied
with to the best of his knowledge and stated that he believed the burden of
making sure the inspections are done are left up to the developer or contractor.
Commissioner Paulson asked Mr. McKibben about a September 30, 1977 to R & B
Properties from John Oshol of.,the Road Department is that they were given permission
to go ahead with their road as "Deschutes County approves the subgrade and
base for all roads in Silven Knowles, a subdivision. . Lynn stated that this
is a transaction that has taken place in the.past. Lynn McKibben stated that
before a road can be constructed, the contractor has to have an approved inspection
from the County if the road is to be taken in the county road system. Commissioner
Paulson asked if the current procedure vas to have a one-year waiting period before
it was accepted in the system; Lynn told him it was. Commissioner Paulson
if it would be possible for the County to make a special agreement in this case
where the County would agree to take it over in writing two or three years hence
rather than one and at the end of that period if the road is in good shape at that
time, the county would take it over, if not let it be corrected. Lynn said that
this was entirely possible. Commissioner Paulson stated that this would be in
lieu of going back and putting on a top. This was agreeable to Mr. Cork and
to Mr. Herring. It was stated that at the end of the waiting period the county did
not have to accept the road even then. Commissioner Paulson suggested adding to
the time period a bond such that if the road was not acceptable to the county at
that point the bond would be sufficient to bring it up to standards and then the
county would take it. There was some questions as to what specifications the road
would have to meet in three years time; Commissioner Paulson stated that there would
be a written agreement to that effect. There was further discussion regarding the
amount of the bond. Mr. McKibben stated to the Board that the contractor and the
developer has several options open to them: 1) They can stop construction right
where they are without any pavement; 2) they can modify the existing section the
way suggested and then Lynn--McKibben"`would recoimneri tsacceptance as he would
any other road; 3) an agreement=be "struck" that would"mature in three years and
would either be repaired by bonded money or accepted as is.
MOTION: COMMISSIONER YOUNG moved that the people conneeted,with
Boones Borough.proceed with their paving project and the
commission set a three-year acceptance period and a perform-
ance bond be supplied.
Mr. Herring asked if it would be possible to include in that motion that the road
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would be accepted no matter what since there was to be a bond posted. Mr.
McKibben stated that he did not think that "we need to accept these roads
at the end of three years, I think it has been moved to accept them now as soon
as the pavement is okay." Lynn McKibben stated that he is recommending acceptance
of the section of toads with the bond as protection. There was further dis-
cussion about the bond and how much it should be. The road department will work
out the details of theamount. Chairman Shepard asked if there was a second to
the motion. Commissioner Paulson suggested that the motion not be to accept the
road as of today but accept it as of the mutual agreement on the agreement to be
drawn up. Commissioner Paulson stated-that with Commissioner Young's approval
he thought it.would be appropriate to ask Lynn to phrase the motion. It was ok
with Commissioner Young.
MOTION: LYNN McKIBBEN stated that the section of the roadway protected
by a bond for three years will be acceptable.
CHAIRMAN SHEPARD: Second.
VOTE: COMMISSIONER YOUNG: Aye.
COMMISSIONER PAULSON: Aye.
CHAIRMAN SHEPARD: Aye.
Lynn. McKibben stated that he would like to make a comment for the record.
"I do not approve of this construction for any future subdivision. I don't believe
that is based on good engineering judgment. I do believe that we have a
responsibility to these gentlemen because of past performance."
Commissioner Paulson made a comment for the road department's benefit: "I believe
that it is crucial that every such determination be in writing; that all of the
contractors dealing with the road department be fully aware of what the specifi-
cations they are required to go by are,including if they are building a rural.
recreation development they are not to be taken into the County."
Lynn MKbibben stated that he believes that is already being done because of "past
skeletons in the closet".
Next on the agenda was County Budget: Special Election. Chairman Shepard asked
Lou Dvorak if he had any comments. Lou told him to read the order into the
record and summarized the packet that the commissioners had. Chairman Shepard
read the order into the record.
MOTION: COMMISSIONER `r,PAULSON moved to approve the order-.
CHAIRMAN SHEPARD: oecond.
There was discussion regarding the different departments budgets. There was
discussion that there were several changes to be made.
Commissioner Paulson added to his motion that the changes made be
accepted by the Board. As the seconder, Chairman Shepard approved
this addition.
VOTE: COMMISSIONER PAULSON: Aye.
COMMISSIONER YOUNG: Aye.
CHAIRMAN SHEPARD: Aye.
Lou then brought up the certificate for the county clerk. Chairman Shepard read
the certificate into the record. Chairman Shepard said this certificate was because
Deschutes County was understaffed; Commissioner Paulson suggested that the wording
"because of high growth" should be inserted.
MOTION: COMMISSIONER PAULSON moved to approve the certificate.
CHAIRMAN SHEPARD: Second.
VOTE: COMMISSIONER PAULSON: Aye.
COMMISSIONER YOUNG: Aye.
CHAIRMAN SHEPARD: Aye.
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Next on the agenda was a Deschutes County Tax Levy Outside the Constitutional 6%
Limitation Proposal. Chairman Shepard read the proposal into the record.
MOTION: COMMISSIONER YOUNG moved to accept the ballot.
CHAIRMAN SHEPARD: Second.
VOTE: COMMISSIONER PAULSON: Aye.
COMMISSIONER YOUNG: Aye.
CHAIRMAN SHEPARD: Aye.
Next on the agenda was a Renewal Agreement, 11th Judicial Criminal Defenders
Association. Chairman Shepard explained the situation to the other board members.
All counties have signed this agreement except Deschutes County from Doug Brown.
Mr. Brown would like this agreement signed.
MOTION: COMMISSIONER YOUNG moved to sign the agreement.
COMMISSIONER PAULSON: Second.
VOTE: COMMISSIONER PAULSON: Aye.
COMMISSIONER YOUNG: Aye.
CHAIRMAN SHEPARD: Aye.
There being no further business the meeting was adjourned.
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