2007-949-Minutes for Meeting May 05,1980 Recorded 6/20/2007DESCHUTES COUNTY OFFICIAL RECORDS CJ 2007.949
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BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
MAY 5, 1980 - DEPARTMENT HEADS BUDGET MEETING, 6% Proposed Budget
Chairman Cleveland called the meeting to order at 7:40 p.m. with
the budget board present and most of the department heads in the
county. Mike Maier was also present. Chairman Cleveland stated
that the Board had agreed on a 15 minutes presentation by each of
the department heads. Chairman Cleveland asked Bob Paulson, Bud-
get Officer to give a brief introduction. Commissioner Paulson stated
that the budget board has reviewed the tax base budget and has
approved it; this evening the board would go through the proposed
staff prepared 6% budget, should the tax base fail on May 20, 1980.
Testimony would be taken from the department heads as to why they
should receive more money than is allocated to them or to defend why
they should keep what they have been allocated.
The first department to give testimony was District Court. Judge Ed
Perkins suggested.to the Budget Board that they should not have cut
his budget as much as they have. Judge Perkins said that basically
where the cuts came in were in materials and personnel. He stated that
some of his personnel perform jobs that are absolutely necessary in
running district court, some positions are required by statute such as
the court reporters and the bailiffs etc. Judge Perkins said that his
department would have to cut back on services performed for the county
and that would probably have to be done in the small claims area.
Judge Perkins said that he realized that every department would have to
cut back in services performed. Judge Perkins suggested that the one
area that could be cut out is the position of "bill collector". This
office assistant sends out bills to those people who owe the county in
fines for some traffic offense that they have committed and have not
yet paid their fines. Judge Perkins said that District Court turns over
about $300,000 every year to the County; Judge Perkins stated that
approximately 1/3 of their yearly revenues comes as a result of the not
too subtle reminder to people who have fines to pay. Therefore, the
county would be losing quite a bit of revenue. Commissioner Paulson
asked if a different position were cut instead of the "bill collector"
what impact that would;have the department. Judge Perkins stated
other problems would be posed such as keeping up with the bookkeeping,
the dockets etc. Commissioner Paulson stated that he was looking at
maybe cutting positions which would not affect revenue but would just
cause a back-up in work. Judge Perkins reminded Commissioner Paulson
that some of this work cannot back up too far or people who call in or
come to the counter cannot be turned away. Small claims cases cannot
be turned away, traffic cases cannot be turned away and a lot of other
services cannot be turned away. There were no further questions.
The next department taken was the District Attorney's Office, Lou
Selken, District Attorney. As Mr. Selken was not present because
of a trial that he was involved in, the board went on the next de-
partment and would return to the District Attorney's Office when Mr.
Selken arrived.
The next department taken was the Sheriff's office. Sheriff Sholes
stated that he would like to give 5 minutes of his time to the sheriff
of Marion County, who has had a similar problem occur in his county,
but not budget-wise, they just had a loss in revenue and he is present
to expound what effect that this has had on the people in that county.
Sheriff Jim. Henan stated that his budget was cut considerably; Mr. Henan
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stated that he had to lose 43 people out of 66 which leaves him 24
people. The only area that was not cut, was the jail and the only
reason that was not cut was because that was a mandated service as set
out by the statutes. Sheriff Henan stated that the result of these
cuts are as follows: Marion County no longer has a patrol after 11:00
p.m. or until 7:00 a.m. the next morning, Marion County has called upon
the State Police to assist them which they are doing but only for a
short period of time, the net result has been that burglar rates have
increased considerably, there are family disagreements in the morning
rather than in the'afternoon. Sheriff Henan said his office is taking
reports and is "absolutely, positively" not following up on them be-
cause they do not have the opportunity, the staff or the time to do so.
Sheriff Henan stated that the bottom line was that the people of Marion
County are very upset because of the loss of police service.
Sheriff Sholes then went over his proposed 6% budget and stated that
these cuts would curtail the graveyard shift, rather, it will eliminate
that shift. Calls would go unanswered; there will be a swing shift
patrol until 9:00 p.m. every night. The sheriff then turned the floor
over to Undersheri.ff Darrell Davidson who has done a lot of work on the
budget with Mike Maier. Darrell stated that there had been quite a
bit of "jockeying" with the figures and the positions. Darrell said
that all they could do now is hope for the best. Commissioner Paulson
asked if the deputies would still respond to late night emergencies
even though there is no graveyard shift. Sheriff Sholes said that he would
ask his men but there was little he could do if they said no; however,
Sheriff Sholes did say that his department were setting their priorities
if the tax base did fail. Sheriff Sholes said that money-wise this
budget is just 1975-76. Sheriff Sholes informed the budget committee
that he just could not ask his men to work eight hours during the day
and then spread them out over a graveyard shift.
The next department taken was Family Counseling with Jane Kirkpatrick.
Jane stated that her purpose in coming tonight was not to ask to have
money given back to her but to leave what money they had given her in
the budget. Jane went on to specify just what services would be cut
back, psychiatrically and secretarily. Jane said that they would pro-
bably only be able to provide emergency services and not the treatment
they would like to provide--only mandated services. Jane said that
currently they are providing help to the jail and if the tax base .fails,
the jail people would have to wait for help until this department could
get to them. Jane said that the Redmond clinic would be eliminated,
to save on rent, travel and personnel. Jane pointed out to the commission
that there is $21,000 in the general fund budget which should go to
Mental Health. Jane said that that was the money that she wanted to
protect. Jane had a member of her advisory board speak on their behalf--
Pastor Don Beak.
The next department taken was the District Attorney's office as Lou
Selken was now present. Lou stated that he didn't have too much more
to say now-theri he did when he came before the budget board before. Lou
stated some statistics that would involve his office and would make some
parts of his office unworkable. While Mr. Selken said that circuit court
was important so was his office, which had to prepare the cases for trial
and if they didn't have the staff they wouldn't have the time to prepare
for cases and a lot of them would be dismissed. Lou stated that the
board was giving the courts money and staff and they were funding a public
defender's office but they were not giving the DA any more money to work
and it was. equally as important as those two. Lou said that he did not
want to criticize any other department or make threats to the budget
board but he did want them to understand the consequences of these cuts.
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Mr. Selken said that if things get really bad in his office where
he can no longer handle the circuit court cases and .the:, district
court cases, he will drop the district court cases and go circuit
court only. He stated that he hated to do that but with these cuts
he could see no alternative. Mr. Selken said that he needed to tell
the board his priorities and if the load got too severe for himself
and his deputies to handle, he wotkld call the attorney general and
get some deputies that way and then the AG would bill the county for
its services. Commissioner Young asked what would happen if the
county did not pay the bill; Mr. Selken stated that the State would
cut back on the county's cigarette tax. Commissioner Paulson asked
if there would be less time spent in pre-trial preparation for each
case to which Mr. Selken said there would hot be time to become properly
prepared for court. Mr. Selken also repeated that if the prosecution
was.not prepared, the judge would more than likely dismiss the-case
which the law tells him to do if he deems it necessary. Mr. Wick
stated that the tax base budget that was given him is $31,000 less than
he requested and the proposed 6% budget is $106,000 less than requested.
Mr. Wick wanted to know the im act of this cut to his office.
Mr. Selken said that if it is 90,000 more than what the 6% would give
him, it seemed to the DA that he would be far better off maintaining
what he has than being cut.
The next department taken was Juvenile Services with Bill Jones.
Mr. Jones stated that his counseling staff was cut in half which
would be deterrent to Us. office. Mr. Jones also said that if
his office is kept within the 6% budget, with personnel cuts and funds
cut, it would be operating under the same budget as in 1974 only
with a bigger case load. Mr. Jones stated that this would result
in sending more kids to McClaren in Klamath Falls because they would
not be able to handle these cases when they first came in when the
kids were small and they would grow up criminals. Mr. Jones said that
one portion of the office that would be cut out entirely would be
the investigation of abuse cases. Those cases would only be investi-
gated by the police and the children services division. Commissioner
Paulson asked what Mr. Jones' department would be doing that would be
of higher priority than abuse cases to which Mr. Jones answered
counseling of juvenile delinquents. Pat Murray, who hahdles the
abuse cases now, had a few comments to make to impress upon the board
the importance of this office function. Father Waldron also spoke
on behalf of Juvenile Services with regard to counseling and trying
to keep the kids out of the institutions and to stop them from committing
more serious crimes.
The next department taken was the Planning Department with John
Andersen. Mr. Andersen had a hand-out for the budget committee
and a very brief statement. John's hand-out was a list of the
various activities that the planning department takes care of and the
possible cuts to that department and would have to eliminate some
of those activities to keep up with the staff. John stated that
investigations of the zoning ordinance would rarely be investigated,
and all other work will be slowed down dramatically. A lot of
studies will not be done because of the lack of staff. There were
no questions for John.
The next department taken was Solid Waste with Roy Wickersham.
Mr. Wickersham said that his department would like to be put back
on their own levy apart from the County's general fund budget.
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That way, Mr. Wickersham reasoned, that they would have enough--
cash carryover and they will probably get their levy passed to get
through the next fiscal year. While they are in the general
fund, they do not feel that they will have enough money to get through
the year because if they have one major breakdown, $100,000 will be
spent just like that. Mr. Wickersham also stated that they would not
be able to work up to DEQ standards and would have to close down most
of the pits around the county. Mr. Wickersham said that the secretary
out at the road department had figured up their loss for them.
There were no questions of Mr. Wickersham.
The next department taken was Marybeth Arbuckle of the Deschutes
County Library. The librarian from the Redmond Library was also
present. Marybeth had some hand-outs for the committee. One was
recommended revisions in the 6% budget for the library. The figures
were arrived at.after consultation with the Library Board and the
Sisters Library and the Redmond Library. Marybeth said that if the
tax base fails, the the library would only be open half as long and
most library services would be cut. The library staff would be
willing to take part-time jobs rather than work full-time to keep the
library going. All books by mail services would be cut out completely.
Fewer best sellers would be purchased and the quality would be less.
There were a few questions for Marybeth regarding the volunteer cut
in wages for the library staff, and also her suggestions.
The next department taken was Emergency Services with Chris Williams.
Chris stated that he would try to keep his presentation short. He
told the Board that the department would be asking those people for
whom rescues are performed to give a donation to the department in some
way. Various bake sales and fund raisers will be held to get funds
for the services. Chris gave a list of the services that Emergency
Services does and helps other departments with in relation to their
duties. He stated that currently there are only two people in that
department: himself and a deputy. Chris said that an awful lot of
time is donated to the county to keep this program going between him
and his deputy. He would ask that the Board keep this deputy at least
half time with the other half being picked up by the marine board.
Chris went on to specify where other funds would come from to fund
this position. There were few questions for Chris.
The next department taken was the Assessor's office with Oscar
Bratton. Oscar stated that his office had been cut by 12 personnel
plus 4 which are CETA workers. Oscar gave a brief summary of the
services that would be cut out and how he would not be able to meet
deadlines and so forth. Mr. Bratton stated that there are certain
obligations he must meet to stay within the ORS and those would be
his priority areas to contend with. Commissioner Paulson asked what the
impact of the 6% budget would be. Mr. Bratton said that he would
always be behind in his work and would have to work extra hours.
Mr. Bratton said that whatever he could not assess, the Department
of Revenue would come in and do the job and charge the county for its
work, Mr. Bratton wanted to assure the Board that he was not saying
this as a threat just as a matter of fact. There were quite a few
questions regarding the matter to Oscar regarding how the work would
be done and when.
The next department taken was Hiltje Hubbard of Medical-Nursing.
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Dr. David Spence was also present regarding this department. Hiltje
said that once the board had taken the medical investigator out of the
budget and put him in a separate budget and now he was back in the
general budget. Dr. Spence said that according to the ORS the medical
investigator must have a budget of his own and not be included in the
general budget. Dr. Spence then went into an account of the autopsy
fees that would be going up shortly and would affect the budget by
quite a bit as he does about 24 autopsies a year which would cost the
county approximately $150 apiece to do, and the county does get
reimbursed for half of their costs for autopsies for felonies, etc.
Dr. Spence stated that he does try to keep the autopsy rate down as
much as possible. There were various questions of Dr. Spence and
Hiltje regarding these fees and various other fees. Dr. Spence
stated that he worries about having a trained nurse having to do
secretarial work. He would prefer to have a part-time secretary to do
the necessary secretarial work. Hiltje would like to have another
nurse in her department rather than a secretary. There were various
questions of Hiltje, also regarding the services that her department
now provides for the jail.
The next department taken was County Counsel with Lou Dvorak. Lou
stated that this 6% budget is merely the spreading of one person
very thin to cover the needs of the county especially with the upcoming
LUBA suits. Lou stated that with two counsels for the county, the
workload is more realistic to handle although both counsels do put in
a lot of overtime to prepare for cases and to give advice to the various
departments, mainly the planning department. Lou said that most of
the work in his office is not hard, it is just time-consuming requiring
preparation, research and litigation. Lou recommended that the the
committee give a lot of thought in keeping the assistant county counsel.
The next department taken was Bob Main, the Watermaster. Bob reported
that right now the Board of Commissioners were trying to contact the
other counties to come up with..some sort of agreement as to how the
three counties would, in the future, budget funds for the Watermaster.
There were no questions for Bob.
The next department taken was the Sanitation Department with John
Glover. John went over some of the fees that had just been insti-
tuted in his office. He stated that all of these fees were as high
as the ORS would allow them to be. Mr. Glover stated that he has
let one clerk and one sanitarian go without refilling the positions
and that has caused some hardship on his office. Mr. Glover stated
that the commissioners have asked for a $4,000,000 grant from the
EPA for the water study in LaPine but he stated if he did not have the
men to do it, he couldn't do it. Mr. Glover felt that on of the
sanitarian positions should be reinstated to carry out the study in
LaPine. Commissioner Paulson asked if a trainee could do the study.
Mr. Glover stated that at present he did not have any trainees but
the board would probably spend more educating a trainee than if they
reinstated a full-time sanitarian.
Commissioner Young wanted to discuss the Board of Commissioners budget.
Commissioner Young suggested that for fiscal year 1980-81, the Board
of Commissioners salaries be maintained at the present scale and further
suggested that the other elected officials ask to do the same.
Commissioner Paulson stated that he was reluctant to speak for others
but felt himself that it was highly possible to do. There was dis-
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cussion regarding the merits of this idea. Chairman Cleveland stated
that it seemed to him that if this budget board were to give people
less, it would help to keep one or two positions in some department.
Chairman Cleveland felt that it was worth looking into. Commissioner
Young maintained that the elected officials' salaries should be kept
at the same level. That would bring the county approximately $16,000
extra.
MOTION: JAN WICK moved that the elected officials' salaries
remain the same as the past year.
COMMISSIONER PAULSON: Second.
VOTE COMMISSIONER YOUNG: Aye.
COMMISSIONER PAULSON: Aye.
COMMISSIONER SHEPARD: Aye.
JAN WICK: Aye.
JACK OLIVER: Aye.
CHAIRMAN CLEVELAND: Aye.
The next department taken was the Veterans Department with Russ Chase.
Russ stated that he didn't understand how Mr. Maier and Commissioner
Paulson expect his department to operate on what they have given him.
Russ said that his office has been cut from two secretaries to just half
a secretary. Puss stated that under the ORS he must maintain an 8
hour day and if he does that, his part-time secretary would not be able
to keep up with the paperwork and dealing with the public and answering
the phone. He asked that his secretary be kept full-time and possibly
close the office to the public so that his secretary could get the
paperwork done. One of the committee members asked what the impact
would be in the office was closed completely. Russ said that the
people would have to go to Salem or Portland and there would be quite
an uproar if the office closed. Commissioner Shepard asked if the
office could operate on a half-time basis. Russ said that that may
be able to be done, however, he still requires the same amount of time
to get the work done. There were no further questions of Russ.
There was no action taken this evening regarding the budget. The
committee would meet again on May 6, 1980 same time, same place.
Commissioner Paulson also informed the other committee members re-
garding the Road Department budget meeting on May 29, 1980 at 7:30.
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