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;DESCHUTES COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
MAY 6, 1981 -
COURTDAY MEETING
Chairman Paulson called the meeting to order at 10:00 a.m. Commissioner
Shepard and Commissioner Young were also in attendance.
Amendments
There were two amendments to the agenda. They were:
to the Agenda
(1) Discussion regarding records retention, and (2)
Consideration of Nunc Pro Tunc Order #81-239. These
will be heard under "Other Staff/Public Concerns".
MOTION: SHEPARD moved to amend the agenda to provide
for these items.
YOUNG: Second.
VOTE: PAULSON : AYE.
SHEPARD: AYE.
YOUNG: AYE.
Discussion
This discussion had been continued from April 28, 1981.
regarding
Dave Jaqua, attorney representing the applicant, came
Partition MP-
before the Board to request a minimum amount of additional
79-172, Tim
time to obtain. signatures on the final mylar. He
Eide
explained that the applicants had been confused by the
letter of tentative approval, the applicant had assumed
that the partition was approved. About one month ago,
when Mr. Eide had contacted his engineer to process a
building permit, they found out that they did not have
three lots. They would like an extension of about 10
days in order to obtain signatures on the final mylar.
The expiration date was in October of 1980. The conditions
of the approval had not been completed prior to the expir-
ation date. He explained that since they had hired an
engineer to do the work, they had assumed that they did not
have to do anything more. Chairman Paulson said that in
the past they had granted extensions only when the appli-
cant demonstrated that all or most of the conditions had
been met prior to the expiration date. Rick Isham, County
Counsel, said that the former ordinance did not allow for
extensions, but that the current one does. He said that
there were two bases for granting extensions: (1) condi-
tions were eventually met, or (2) the applicant was not
somehow at fault in the reason for the lapsing of the
approval.
MOTION: YOUNG moved that the Board of Commissioners
find the applicant not at fault and they be
granted a ten-day extension.
SHEPARD: Second.
Craig Smith, Planning Department, said that the new part-
ition ordinance does not allow extensions. He noted that
he sent a copy of his October 1980 letter to the appli-
cant's engineer, Consultants Northwest. Mr. Jaqua suggested
that the letters should be sent prior to the expiration
date. Chairman Paulson said that he did not recollect that
they had ever granted extensions because they felt that
the applicant was not at fault. Mr. Smith said that
the Board has granted extensions on subdivisions,
but never on partitions. He said that both the old and
the new ordinance do not have a mechanism to extend part-
itions. He added that the conditions had not been met
and the meaning of the ordinance which was passed would
be abridged. He suggested that if there is a problem
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with the ordinance in this regard, perhaps it should
be changed.
Mr. Jaqua said that one of the reasons for the budget
problems is County image. He said that he did not under-
stand why the Planning Department has such an objection
to this. He said that the Board has it within their
general jurisdiction to look at these on a case by case
basis. He felt that the Board owed this to the people.
He did not see where it would be a detriment to the
County to approve this, but there is one in not approving
it. Commissioners Paulson and Shepard said that they
had problems approving an extension when the conditions
were not met prior to the expiration date. Mr. Jaqua
said that he did not think that the Planning Department
was in a position to say what the ordinance was in relationship
to their interpretation. He thought that Mr. Isham said
that the Board does have the authority. Mr. Isham said
that the Board has the authority to make a decision on
procedural issues such as this. Mr. Smith said that
on October 11, 1979, this was approved with one year to
complete the conditions. In October of 1980 none of the
conditions had been met. There were six conditions of
approval. He said that he did not hear from them for
six months after the expiration date.
VOTE: PAULSON: NO.
SHEPARD: NO.
YOUNG: AYE.
Consideration Sam Rail came before the Board to explain the problem
of extension they are having in completing their conditions of approval
of PP#494,
within the specified time limit. They are having a problem
Double R Es-
with the Road Department's road requirement. Chairman
tates, Sam
Paulson read aloud a letter from the Deschutes County
Rail
Surveyor requesting that Mr. Rail be granted a 30-day
extension. The problem they are having is with condition
#10, that the access County road be brought up to standards
which would require paving. This is a Road Department
requirement, which the Hearings Officer approved. Craig
Smith said that this was granted under the old subdivision
ordinance #PL-2. They did request a one-year extension
which was granted.
MOTION: YOUNG moved that the extension be granted
for 30 days.
SHEPARD: Second.
Mr. Smith said that the Board had granted subdivision and
Preliminary Plat extensions in the past, but never partition
extensions. There was some discussion on this. Commissioner
Shepard said that if they are not comfortable with these
ordinances, perhaps they should be looked at again.
VOTE: PAULSON: AYE
SHEPARD: AYE.
YOUNG: AYE.
There was some further discussion on the Road condition
problem. Mr. Smith quoted part of the October 24, 1978
staff report for Mr. Rail's partition. On page 2 it reads,
"The access to the parcel will be off of the County road
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or one constructed by the developer." Mr. Rail said
that right after that they went to talk to the Commissioners
about it. They.had planned to build a culdesac which would
provide access. This would save using the County road as
access, so they would not have to bring the County road up
to County standards. He said that they were told at that
time by the Board that that would be alright. There were
two plats, the original one not showing the culdesac and
the final one that did show the culdesac. The Road depart-
ment had reviewed the one without the culdesac, but the
Hearings Officer had approved the one showing the culdesac.
Commissioner Shepard suggested that this be referred to
the Road Department for their recommendation. Mr. Judd of
the Road Department asked for some additional time in
which to make a recommendation.
MOTION: YOUNG moved that the previous motion granting the
30-day approval be the time that a decision is
handed down from the Road Department.
SHEPARD: Second.
VOTE: PAULSON: AYE.
SHEPARD: AYE.
YOUNG: AYE.
Discussion
Commissioner Young read aloud a letter from Mr. Rhodin
regarding
dated April 28, 1981. Mr. Rhodin had purchased his lot
Lee Rhodin
in February of 1978. He was recently refused a building
mobile home
permit because the lot was not a legal lot. His lot is
placement
located within Chaparral Estates subdivision. Bruce Knowlton
of the Planning Department gave a brief history of this.
This land is zoned MUA-10. This lot was created prior to
any zoning being in the County. One of the lots was
broken down into four smaller parcels. This lot was
created in 1973. At that time there was no partition ordin-
ance. When it was zoned, it was zoned A-1 with a 5-acre
minimum lot size. At that time there was no partition re-
quirement, the only requirement was that the lot meet the
minimum 5-acre requirement. It did not, that is why the
staff took the.position that it was an illegal lot. The
parcel was split several times after the zoning was in
effect. In 1977 there was a mobile home on the parcel,
and on that basis he is requesting that it be granted some
kind of status for mobile home use. There was some further
discussion. Mr. Rhodin said that in 1975 a septic tank
permit was issued (permit #28575) for a septic tank on the
parcel. He had no mobile home placement information.
Mr. Rhodin said that the last time there was a mobile home
on the property was in 1977. He had purchased the property
without the mobile home. There was some further discussion.
MOTION: YOUNG moved that the Board of Commissioners rule
Tax Map #15-12-36C, Tax Lot 1201 Code 2-04 will
the Commissioners find that it is because of
past use condisered a legal lot and that a
double wide mobile home be allowed to be placed
on the lot.
SHEPARD: Second.
Chairman Paulson said that he is bothered by the part of
the motion which states that it is because of its past use.
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There were no permits issued by the Couty prior to the
septic tank permit. Mr. Isham commented that tax lot
numbers are notorious for not being something you can
use to establish legality of the lot.
VOTE: PAULSON: AYE.
SHEPARD: AYE.
YOUNG: AYE.
Consideration
Chairman Paulson read aloud the Order's title.
of Nunc Pro
MOTION: SHEPARD moved to approve order #81-239.
Tunc Order
YOUNG: Second.
#81-239
VOTE: PAULSON: NO.
SHEPARD: AYE.
YOUNG: AYE.
Discussion
Phil Miles, Oregon State Archives Office, and Mike
regarding
Maier, Director of Administrative Services came before
Records
the Board to discuss this. Mr. Maier explained that
Retension
the County maintains many records that do not have to be
maintained. He said that Mr. Miles is currently looking
at the microfilming in the Planning and Building depart-
ments. Mr. Miles said that under ORS 192.357 auth-
ority of all public records within the State falls under
the State. He discussed briefly records he had found
within the County that could be discarded and the minimum
period of time they should be retained. He said that
with respect to building permits, they should be retained
only 90 days, and after that point the burden of retaining
those records should fall on the private person. He
added that permits for commercial and public buildings
should be retained indefinitely. Ken Glantz, Building
Official, made some comments about the retention of
building permits. He said that 90 days is too short a
time for them to retain these records. He said that they
frequently refer to building permits issued in 1976 or 1977
He added that property changes hands so frequently that
it is best if they keep these records to refer to. He
felt that it was worth the cost of keeping them because
they referred to them so frequently. There was some
further discussion. Mr. Miles agreed to further examine
the County's records and make further recommendations as
to how they should be retained.
Chairman Paulson recessed the meeting until 2:00 p.m.
2:00 p.m.
For Signature:
MP-97-191,
Orville
Storlie
Chairman Paulson reconvened the meeting. Commissioner
Young was present, Commissioner Shepard was absent.
Craig Smith brought this before the Board for their
final approval and signature.
MOTION: YOUNG moved to approve MP-79-191, Orville
Storlie.
PAULSON: Second.
VOTE: PAULSON: AYE.
YOUNG: AYE.
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MP-80-96, Craig Smith explained this, and brought it before
Frank Nolan the Board for final approval and signature.
MOTION: YOUNG moved that they approve MP-80-96,
Frank Nolan.
PAULSON: Second.
VOTE: PAULSON: AYE.
YOUNG: AYE.
Being no further business, the meeting was adjourned. $
DESCHU COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
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