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DESCHUTES COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
JUNE 17, 1981 - REGULAR MEETING
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Chairman Paulson called the meeting to order at 10:00 a.m.
Shepard and Commissioner Young were also in attendance.
Commissioner
Amendments to Chairman Paulson noted that the meeting would reconvene
the Agenda at 4:00 p.m. to consider a response to a grievance.
MOTION: SHEPARD moved to amend the agenda.
YOUNG: Second.
VOTE: PAULSON: AYE.
SHEPARD: AYE.
YOUNG: AYE.
First Reading Chairman Paulson read aloud Ordinance #81-019 in full.
Bend Urban The map was:;attached and the ordinance included an emer-
Area Phase II gency clause. Betsy Shay, Planning Department, explained
Sewer Boundary that a public hearing on this was held May 27 jointly
Deschutes Co. with the Bend Urban Area Planning Commission and the
Ordinance Board of County Commissioners. It leas the recommendation
#81-019 of the Bend Urban Area Planning Commission that both the
City and County Commissioners adopt the ordinance as
written. There was some further discussion.
Dan VanVactor, representing Paul Ramsey of Avion Water
Company, came before the Board. He read into the record
a letter dated June 17, 1981 to the Board of Commissioners
from Mr. Ramsey. In it Mr. Ramsey requested that no action
be taken on Ordinance #81-019 until they can appoint a
study committee to respond to the subject. They also
requested that another hearing be held because Mr. Ramsey
had been unable to attend the original hearing. Commissioner
Shepard expressed reluctance to do so, as this matter
had been considered for some time. He added that this
hearing had been duly published and there had been an
article about in the newspaper. He felt that time was
important and the Board should proceed on the matter.
Commissioner Young said that members of the Bend Urban
Area Planning Commission should not have the power to
make decisions affecting people who do not elect them.
He said that this was voted on by only three members of
the Commission, and on the County Planning Commission,
they must have four votes in order to pass an action.
He said that he did not attend the meeting because he
did not feel that the Bend Urban Area Planning Commission
was a legal commission. He felt that Mr. Ramsey was within
his right and since phase II is outside the city limits
only the Board of ;,,Coranissioners should be authorized to do
this.
MOTION: YOUNG moved that another public hearing be
held by the Deschutes County Board of Commis-
sioners on the Bend Urban Area Phase II Sewer
Boundary.
Mr. Isham briefly discussed the question of the number
of votes and noted that the legal requirement for a hearing
has been met. There was some further discussion. The
motion died for lack of a second.
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MOTION: SHEPARD moved to set the second reading for
two (2) weeks from today.
PAULSON: Second.
VOTE: PAULSON: AYE.
SHEPARD: AYE.
YOUNG: NO.
Public Com- Kelly O'Neil, Lost Ponderosa Rd., LaPine came forward.
ments re-
He represented a group called HALT, Humans Against
garding the
Legal Toxins. He said that they are against the use of
Water Hemlock
2,4-D being sprayed on the Deschutes River. He felt
Program
that this area was still very environmentally sound, and
theirs was an attempt to maintain that quality. He said
that the program has been in progress for 17 years, and
they still have the water hemlock, which demonstrates
that the program has not been successful. He felt that
the way the program is being administered at this time,
the burden of safety is on the private citizen. He
then read aloud the cautions that appear on the label
of 2,4-D. He said that these label stipulations are not
being carried out. He said that the Forest Service has
found up to 40 parts per billion of 2,4-D in Deschutes
River water. He said that EPA restrictions are also being
ignored. EPA law says that 2,4-D is not to be used on
drinking water, and the Deschutes.River is used as drinking
water. He presented to the Board an informal petition to
stop the spraying of 2,4-D. They are only short 200 signat-
ures of what it takes to have something placed on a ballot.
He said they would like to place this on the ballot so
it could be voted on.
Next, Robert Wagner, Manager of North Unit Irrigation Dist-
rict in Madras, came before the Board. He said that he
would encourage Deschutes County to continue to control
water hemlock because it is poisonous. He said that cattle
and sheep die from the plant and two people have died
in recent years. He said that in 32 years of managing
the irrigation district he has been involved and has never
seen anyone harmed by 2,4-D. He encouraged the cooperation
of the two counties in the spraying program.
Next, Jim Black of LaPine came forward. He was representing
the Oregon Farm Bureau. They had made a motion to prepare
the letter which he read aloud to the Board of Commissioners
at this time.
Kathy O'Neil of LaPine then came forward. She said that
the wife of.-one of the poisoning victims mentioned earlier
signed the petition calling for the halt of the spraying
of 2,4-D. She again mentioned label cautions not be ad-
hered to. She said there should be no fishing or grazing
allowed at times of spraying.
Dave Dietz, representing the farm and forest industries:;
came forward. He said that they are proponents of the safe
and continued use of herbicides in the State. He said that
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this is an emotional issue and needed to be viewed more
objectively. He said that 2,4-D was not sprayed directly
on the water. He said that there are several different
labels on 2,4-D and those labels are regulated by the
government. He added that all chemicals are toxic, but
there was not a health hazard with 2,4-D because the
chemical used for water hemlock are diluted sufficiently
so as not to encourage a health hazard. In response to
the charge that EPA findings were non-conclusive, he said
that EPA, in April 1980, released a report on 2,4-D in
which it did request additional information but they
did not request that its use be stopped. He gave to the
Board printed information that his group had compiled on
the subject.
Next, Kelly O'Neil again came forward. He said that the
plants are individually sprayed, but they grow right near
the water, so the water does become affected. He had
a report compiled by the University of Washington in
which findings were made that the flesh of fish in the
treatment area became tainted and the aquatic food
chain becomes affected. He said that 2,4-D does eventually
break down into carbon dioxide, but it also breaks down
into 25 different chemicals as well. He said that he
has nothing to gain by protesting the use of the chemical,
but those advocating its use do stand to gain financially
by the continued permission of its use.
Dan Fohgarty of LaPine came forward. He said that this
is a humanitarian issue. He suggested that a viable and
constructive alternative to the spraying may be to employ
persons to hand-grub the plant. This would ease the high
unemployment in the LaPine area, and effectively get rid
of the plant in a non-toxic manner. He said that the com-
munity has to become more aware of keeping a healthy en-
vironment, and noted that humans have become host to many
diseases. He felt that we needed to be more concerned
about this.
Ray Kerfoot then came forward. He has been in control of
the hand-spraying program for fifteen years. He said that
he considered himself very healthy and had been around the
chemical frequently and had been saturated with it at times
and had suffered no ill effects. He said that they are
very careful with the spraying. He said that if they lose
one year of spraying, they would lose approximately five
years of the program.
Discussion re- Don Bramhill, DEQ, came before the Board. This contract
garding DEQ had been discussed in prior meetings, but there had been
and Contract some question of the educational requirements proposed.
for 1981-82 He said that ten individuals graduated from OSU this year
with the requirements DEQ is recommending. He said that
the contract had a provision for some kind of training
opportunity for the individual. John Glover, County Sani-
tarian, said that the County may have trouble complying
with that portion of the contract because of prohibitive
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expense. He also noted that the qualified individuals
may not be available when the County needs to hire some-
one. He said that at this point, the County can expect
to have to hire someone in about six months. He sug-
gested delaying this for one year. Chairman Paulson
said that he was in favor of the contract but not making
the educational 'requirements a hard rule. He said that
the County would be willing to comply as much as possible.
Mr. Bramhill said that this only applies to someone who
is coming out of school and not someone who has already
been working in the program. Chairman Paulson said that
with that explanation he sees no problem with signing
the contract.
Discussion Chairman Paulson explained that this was in response to
regarding a letter from Sharon Boller indicating that they need to
appointments reappoint two members, Jim Peterson and Jean Beake. They
to the County should be appointed for three-year terms. They also
Welfare Board request that two new appointments be made, they are:
Lisa Lieberman and Helen Jewell, to be appointed to four-
year terms.
MOTION: YOUNG moved that they be appointed.
SHEPARD: Second.
VOTE: PAULSON: AYE.
SHEPARD: AYE.
YOUNG: AYE.
Informal talk Randy Stockdale and Charles Arment came before- the Board.
with Randy
Mr. Stockdale said that he was there mainly to make them
Stockdale,
aware of the fact that there is a district office staff
from the of-
and they are looking at the possibility of a satellite
fices of Re-
office in Bend. They are here to inform them that they
presentative
are available and there is a new toll-free number to get
Denny Smith
in touch with Mr. Smith's office.
Consideration
Chairman Paulson said that on the first page,Article 4.,
and possible
Section should state "...hereinafter called the Board."
adoption of
He said that Article 7, Section 1, should read, or
Library By-
until disbanded by majority vote of the Board." He
laws
suggested that Section 1. A. should say "the Directors"
instead of "their" copensation. Under paragraph 4, Section
9.E. the Directors which approve all library expenditures,
should say "subject to final approval of the Board."
He also suggested that the words, "should be tape-recorded
with written minutes kept" should be added. With those
corrections, Chairman Paulson suggested that they approve
the by-laws.
MOTION: YOUNG moved that they approve the By-laws of the
Deschutes County Library as corrected.
SHEPARD: Second.
VOTE: PAULSON: AYE.
SHEPARD: AYE.
YOUNG: AYE.
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Other Staff/ Lyle Farley, Chairman of the Central Oregon Housing
Public Con Authority, came before the Board. He said that they
cerns currently need two new members for their Board.from
Deschutes County, but did not have anyone to recom-
mend. Commissioner Shepard said that this had been
advertised and that Bob Lutz has someone in mind.
Mr. Farley said that their program is currently in
the process of receiving funding, they have their
primary loan commitment. He said that they plan to
begin construction of a 10-unit elderly housing complex
in Madras, as well as developments in Redmond and Culver,
a 3-plex in Sisters and an 8-plex in Bend.
For Signature: Kathy Kocourek came before the Board to have them sign
Lease for the lease for Rainbow House. She explained that this
Rainbow House lease was the same as the last one. She said that they
lease it from Helen Cross at a cost of $425. per month.
MOTION: YOUNG moved to sign the lease for Rainbow House.
SHEPARD: Second.
VOTE: PAULSON: AYE.
SHEPARD: AYE.
YOUNG: AYE.
Being no.further business, the meeting was recessed until 4:00.
4:09-~p.m. In the matter of response to a grievance filed by Dick
Boller, the Board had prepared a memo.
MOTION: SHEPARD moved to approve the memo to Dick Boller
dated June 17, 1981.
PAULSON: Second.
VOTE: PAULSON: AYE.
SHEPARD: AYE.
YOUNG: NO.
Indigent Next, Mike Maier came before the Board with Tom Crabtree
Defense Con- and Terry Ramsdorf regarding the Indigent Defense contract.
tract He said that the total expenses amounted to $165,000.00
and Mr. Crabtree and Mr. Ramsdorf are willing to begin
July 15, so Mr. Maier had adjusted the personal services
to a total of $159,580. He said that they are also checking
into putting them on County health insurance. They will
handle everything from Circuit, District and Juvenile
courts and handle mental commitment cases. They estimate
that each attorney will be handling 200 cases per year.
Conflict cases are not in their contract. They will be
responsible for their own office and supplies and will be
paid on a quarterly basis. There will also be a contingency
fund. Mr. Maier then briefly discussed the other proposals
that had been submitted. Mr. Maier said that the Crabtree/
Ramsdorf proposal was the most favorable one. They will
have one additional attorney for a total of three. Mr.
Isham then went over briefly the discussion draft of the
contract.
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Commissioner Young left the meeting at 4:54 p.m.
There was further discussion of the method of adminis-
tration of the program.
MOTION: PAULSON moved that the contract be put in
final form based on the discussion at this
meeting today subject to final approval of
both parties.
SHEPARD: Second.
VOTE: PAULSON: AYE.
SHEPARD: AYE.
Being no further business, the meeting was adjourned.
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