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DE~CHUTES COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
DECEMBER 2, 1981 - COURTDAY MEETING
Chairman Paulson called the meeting to order at 10:00 A.M. Commis-
sioner Shepard and Commissioner Young were also in attendance.
Amendments to There were four amendments as listed on the attached
the Agenda
sheet. Chairman Paulson also noted that an executive
session held under ORS 192.660 l.b. would be held at
3:00 p.m. today as a continuation of this meeting.
Work Session
Chairman Paulson explained that this was not a public
on the Des-
hearing but a work session for the Board.
chutes County
Subdivision
Craig Smith, Planning Department, came forward to give
Ordinance
a brief history of the development of this proposed ordin-
ance. He said that the comprehensive plan called for an
ordinance similar to the cities in the county, so they
have been working with the City of Bend and the City
of Redmond to make this proposed ordinance more similar
to their ordinances. He said that the real major changes
were in the improvement section. He said that the
Planning Commission had reviewed this, and had held
a public hearing on this as well. At that time, the
Planning Commission did make some changes and corrections.
Mr. Smith briefly outlined what those changes were.
Dave Hoerning, County Surveyor, suggested that with
regard to section 4.034 (page 23) that the "condition
of plat approval" either have requirements completed
or bonded. John Andersen, Planning Director, said ,
that the Planning Commission had asked the staff to
survey the banks on this question. The planning staff
contacted four major local banks and all of those banks
required that the plat be signed before they would
loan any money on the subdivision. It was decided
that it would be appropriate to consider some kind
of amendment that would allow for either surety bonds,
cash or improvements completed.
Paul Ramsey, Avion Water Company, said that this policy
of requiring bonding on domestic water systems will
overlap with the policy of the Public Utilities Commission
which will be an additional cost to the developer.
He objected to this. Rick Isham, County Counsel, said
that the bonding of improvements should be made to
the county to protect the county. He said that if
some other entity has bonding requirements then that
is an issue between them, but the county should not
be bypassed.
Dave Hoerning said that he has submitted a sample of
a form used in the State of Washington for the correction
of errors in a plat.
Nick Amonson asked if a letter of credit from a bank
was no longer acceptable. Neil Hudson, Director of
Public Works, explained that under the new ordinance
only surety bonds or cash would be accepted. Mr. Isham
noted that currently the county holds 19 letter of
credit from banks that the banks have withdrawn.
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Mr. Amonson said that the small subdivider is not able
to obtain surety bonds, and a requirement like this
would put some of them out of business. There was
some discussion on letters of credit. Mr. Andersen
noted that they had talked to several other jurisdictions
and none of them are accepting letters of credit.
Paul Ramsey suggested that the wording be made more
clear with respect to flushing dirt and foreign materials
from water pipelines, as it is written now it does
not allow for the new pipeline to be hooked up to the
existing line, which would make it impossible to flush
the lines. He also suggested that the PVC pipe be
allowed, instead of only allowing steel or iron pipe.
He said that this would be very expensive.
Jan Ward said that he is also concerned with the requirement
that only iron or steel pipe be used. He also expressed
concern about only allowing gravity sewage systems.
He said that the cost of doing some of the things required
in the ordinance will be too high for people to afford.
Chuck Hanson, Sunriver, said that he has the same concerns
Mr. Wick has.
Bob Lovlien said that he did not feel that imposing
the same standards to all areas of the county would
work. He did not feel that there was enough flexibility
with respect to alternate types of development. He
said that he has had a lot of problems with the City
of Bend and he did not feel that the county should
copy their ordinance. He said that Deschutes County
has pioneered planned developments, and that this ordinance
would hinder that type of development. He also noted
that "public improvements" is not defined in the ordinance.
He said that under section 6.050 it requires that the
public works department have an inspector on site funded
by the developer during all phases of development.
He felt that this would be costly and in some cases
unnecessary.
Chuck Hanson said that he had the same concerns as
Mr. Lovlien, and noted that the ordinance does not
really address the planned unit developments, such
as Sunriver. He did not feel that it was appropriate
to set this up according to city standards. With regard
to the section concerning sales, he questioned whether
it was legal to say that someone cannot sell a parcel
of their property until final approval has been granted.
He said that with regard to section 3.015, improvement
plans, this could create a massive amount of engineering
fees. With respect to section 6.050 regarding inspection,
he said that he questioned that particular item because
all it does is add substantial cost. He said that
in Sunriver they have a registered engineer that inspects
all water and sewer systems. He said that he does
not think that water and sewer systems should be governed
by th is ordinance. He s.Aid that under the road standards,
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it requires that road signs be aluminum. He said that
Sunriver is using wooden signs and are very pleased
with them. He did not want to have to convert their
signs from wood to aluminum.
For clarification, Craig Smith pointed out that this
proposed ordinance is not based on the City of Bend's
ordinance, but on the original county subdivision ordin-
ance. He said that planned developments are addressed
already and do not need to be addressed in the subdivision
ordinance.
Folmer Bodtker said that the notification system is
not sufficient.
Paul Ramsey noted that they have had problems with
US made pipe, and he has some concerns about specifying
US made pipe in the ordinance.
Being no further comments, Chairman Paulson called
for discussion by the Board. Commissioner Shepard
said that he felt that there needed to be some work
in the water and sewer items. Chairman Paulson suggested
postponing further discussion of this for two weeks
to give them an opportunity to study this.
Appointment Chairman Paulson said that as of this time the Board
of two members has received no applicants for this position. The
to fill vac- Board will refer this back to the committee to make
ancy on Home appointments of their choosing.
Rule Committee
Appointment of MOTION: SHEPARD moved to appoint Commissioner Young
of Budget Of- as Budget Officer.
ficer PAULSON: Second.
VOTE: PAULSON: AYE.
SHEPARD: AYE.
YOUNG: AYE.
Appointment of The Board had received letters of application from
Member to the the following people: Max Ruffcorn, Bill McCann, Michael
Urban Area Connell, Mike Kozak and Joel Smith. The vacancy has
Planning Com- been created by the resignation of Mr. Joyce from the
mission commission.
MOTION: PAULSON moved to appoint Michael B. Connell.
SHEPARD: Second.
VOTE: PAULSON: AYE.
SHEPARD: AYE.
YOUNG: ABSTAIN.
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For Signature: Commissioner Young noted that this was in LaPine.
Renewal of Lic-MOTION: YOUNG moved to approve the renewal and sign
ense as a it.
Wrecker of PAULSON: Second.
Motor Vehicles VOTE: PAULSON: AYE.
SHEPARD: AYE.
YOUNG: AYE.
Request for Before the Board was a request for refund in the amount
Refund of $67.60 to Walt Webb, receipt number 14644. The
Board approved the request.
Agreement for Neil Hudson ready yet, and he would bring it back up
the Construct- to them at a later date.
ion of the In-
tersection of
Highway 97 and
Yew Avenue
Being no further business, the meeting was adjourned.
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