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DESCHUTES COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
JULY 14, 1982 - REGULAR MEETING
Chairman Shepard called the meeting to order at 10:02 A.M. Commissioner
Paulson and Commissioner Young were also present.
Hearing on Rick Isham, County Counsel, said that this would be
Respondent's continued until 1:30 P.M. There was some further dis-
Cost Claim cussion on the hearing procedure to take place at that
time.
Discussion re-
John Andersen,'Planning Director, said that they had
garding Pay--.
:obtained a grant through Central Oregon Intergovernmental
ment for La-
Council to finish the LaPine Industrial Park Plan, but
Pine Indus-
stated that there was no money available through the
trial Park
Economic Development Administration to fund the survey
Survey
of the land. The survey is necessary so that they can
divide it into parcels to be leased. He said that in
this year's Planning Department budget, they had a line
item for a Senior Planner who was not yet on board. He
suggested that they not fund this position for a short
amount of time which would provide the $1500 necessary
to fund the survey.
MOTION: YOUNG moved to proceed with the use of the
$1500 of the Senior Planner funds that will
not be used to make a survey of the LaPine
Industrial area.
PAULSON: Second.
There was some further discussion on the LaPine Indus-
trial study group that the Board had appointed for the
purpose of developing this plan, and what their wishes
for the further proceedings of this project are. It
was the concensus of the Board that they did not wish to
proceed with this without the support of that committee
and the support of the LaPine Industrial Corporation.
Mr. Andersen also explained the breakdown of the funding
for the plan and the survey.
VOTE: SHEPARD: AYE.
PAULSON: AYE.
YOUNG: AYE.
MOTION: PAULSON moved that the Board direct John
Andersen to communicate with the committee
and and the development corporation to see
if this meets with their approval and find
out if they would like to be involved.
YOUNG: Second.
There was some further discussion.
VOTE: SHEPARD: AYE.
PAULSON: AYE.
YOUNG: AYE.
Discussion This was in regard to establishing who will be respon-
regarding sible for issuing burning in areas outside of rural
Fire Permits fire protection districts. It was suggested that the
fire protection districts be contacted to see they would
be willing to assume this function for areas within or
near their districts. Commissioner Young agreed to
research this further by contacting the fire districts
and report back to the Board at a later time.
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Deschutes County Board of Commissioners
July 14, 1982 - Regular Meeting
Amendment to
the Agenda:
OLCC Liquor
License
Renewal
Application
Being no objections, the agenda was amended to include
this item. Before the Board was an OLCC Liqour License
renewal application for G.I. Joe's.
MOTION: PAULSON moved that it be approved.
VOTE:
YOUNG: Second.
SHEPARD: AYE.
PAULSON: AYE.
YOUNG: AYE.
Discussion
Chairman Shepard explained that Larry Huettl had been
Regarding
asked to review the cars that had been the subject of
Vehicle
previous car committee discussions to determine whether
Policy
they should be kept or disposed of. He had done so
and outlined his determinations in a memo before the
Board.
MOTION: PAULSON moved to approve his recommendations
and implement them noting that it should
include the understanding that the department
heads will be kept advised of what is to be
done with the vehicles.
YOUNG: Second.
VOTE: SHEPARD: AYE.
PAULSON: AYE.
YOUNG: AYE.
It was.the concensus of the Board that Chairman Shepard
be appointed to follow through on this project.
Other Staff/
Mr. Isham noted that the County used to hold an annual
Public Con-
County Auction, of which Chris Williams, Search and
cerns
Rescue, used to coordinate. It was the concensus of
the Board that Terry Silbaugh, Mr. William's sucessor,
be asked to assume that responsibility. Mr. Isham also
noted that 'at 1:30 he would have resolutions relating
to the budget ready for signature by the Board, and
requested that they do so at that time.
Being no further business at hand, the meeting was recessed until 1:30 p.m.
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BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
MEETING OF JULY 13 & 14, 1982
1:30 P.M. RECONVENED FOR THE FOLLOWING:
Resolution A resolution amending Section 1 of Resolution 482-035
82-039 Adopting the Deschutes County Budget For Fiscal Year
1982-83, Nunc Pro Tunc.
Chairman Shepard read the title of the Resolution;
MOTION: PAULSON moved that they adopt the resolution 482-039.
YOUNG: Second
VOTE: PAULSON: AYE
YOUNG: AYE
SHEPARD: AYE
Resolution A resolution amending Section.3 of Resolution 82-035; adding
82-040 appropriations for Road Improvement Funds and Correcting Ap
propriations in the Water Hemlock Fund and the County Fair Fund,
Nunc Pro Tunc, read by Chairman Shepard.
MOTION: PAULSON moved that they adopt the resolution.#82-040
YOUNG:. Second
VOTE: PAULSON: AYE
YOUNG: AYE
SHEPARD: AYE
The Board then proceeded with the hearing reagarding costs and a decision
on the Way of Necessity for Thompson. Due to the lengthiness of this meeting,
there will be separate minutes prepared.
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Deschutes County Board of Commissioners
July 14, 1982 - Regular Meeting
Hearing on Chairman Shepard began the hearing by discussing-.
Respondent's the proceeding of the hearing. There was a question
Cost Claim of whether Dave Hoerning, County Surveyor, would be
allowed to testify on behalf of the Thompson's. Mr.
Speck voiced an objection to this, based on the fact
that Mr. Hoerning was not at the first hearing where
testimony of this nature was heard. He objected to
reopening the hearing to further testimony. The
Chair ruled to disallow the opening of the hearing
to any further testimony.
Chairman Shepard addresed the first question relating
to the Board's decision, that being "Has the need for
the Way of Necessity been demonstrated." Chairman
Shepard and Commissioner Paulson agreed that it had been
demonstrated. [Note: Commissioner Young was not able
to attend the original hearing:]
Commissioner Paulson said that he was in favor. of granting
a way of necessity, but not on the route that was pro-
posed. Route A as identified on the map was what was
requested by the Thompson's, Commissioner Paulson suggested
that the Board determine that Route B be granted for way
of necessity. There was some further discussion relating
to the alternate routes.
MOTION: PAULSON moved that the Board grant the Way
of Necessity since there is no other access
to the property, that the location of the
Way of Necessity be along Route B as described
on the colored map that was presented to the
Board titled Tumalo Dam Quadrangle and that the
width of the access be thirty feet, with the
access limited to residential uses of the pet-
itioner's property.
SHEPARD: Second.
VOTE: SHEPARD: AYE.
PAULSON: AYE.
YOUNG: ABSTAIN.
Neil Bryant, attorney representing the Thompson's, asked
if they should come back before the Board should that
route prove to be impossible to engineer, and the need
for additional ground required. In that event, it was
decided that the petitioner would have to requested that
the hearing be reopened and the order amended. It was
also advised that this could be appealed to Circuit Court.
There was some further discussion on this and the proced-
ure was never clarified. It was noted that there was no
evidence given at the hearing that any of these routes
were not suitable to use.
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Deschutes County Board of Commissioners
July 14, 1982 - Regular Meeting
Paul Speck, attorney representing the Stringfield's
(the respondents), asked about the fencing of the
right-of-way, the provision of a gate to be kept locked
and the question of maintenance to the BLM road. This
lead to further discussion in regard to the point at
which the Thompson's access begins. There was some
question as to whether or not the Thompson's would enter
the Stringfield property at the same gateway the String-
fields use. It was the Stringfield's desire that they
enter at another point and keep a separate locked gate
for security purposes of the Stringfield house. It was
agreed to address these questions after the cost hearing,
as there were witnesses waiting to testify in regard
to that matter.
Before the Board was a letter to the Board from Mr. Speck
outlining his client's costs, and a letter of response
from Mr. Bryant. It was determined that Mr. Bryant would
present his case first.
Mr. Bryant called forward Terry O'Sullivan to testify.
Terry O'Sullivan, 424 N.E. Kearney, Bend 97701, Attorney
in the firm of Merrill and O'Sullivan, came forward.
Mr. Bryant proceeded to question Mr. O'Sullivan on his
practice and asked him whether or not he had reviewed
the evidence in this particular case, to which he answered
in the affirmative. He asked for his opinion as to
what a reasonable attorney's fee might be in this case.
He said that he felt that a reasonable fee might be $1000
to $1200, for the attorney portion only. Mr. Speck noted
that because his client was out of town he had to do some
of the footwork that the client may have ordinarily done.
There was some further discussion in this regard.
Next, John William Bancroft, Jr., Real Estate Appraiser,
came forward. He listed his credentials after being
requested to-=do so by Mr. Bryant. He had reviewed Mr.
LaFranci's report and the different maps submitted during
the hearing . He said that his opinion for costs on this
should be $750 to $1000.
Steven C. Scott, 672 Innes Lane, Bend, 97701, came forward.
He is a real estate broker and consultant. He listed his
credentials at the request of Mr. Bryant. Mr. Bryant asked
for his opinion in regard to the fee that should be charged
for the appraisal work erformed by Mr. LaFranci. He said
that based on charging p$40 per hour, estimating that the
report took 20 hours to complete, making the fee approx-
imately $800. There was some further discussion on how
he had assessed this cost.
Mr. Bryant then called forward Dave Hoerning, County
Engineer, who had prepared the engineer's report. Mr.
Speck objected. It was the Board's decision not to
hear Mr. Hoerning's testimony.
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Deschutes County Board of Commissioners
July 14, 1982 - Regular Meeting
Mr. Bryant said that he would like to make known for
the record that his attorney's fees were $772, billed
to the Thompsons_at a billing rate of $75 per hour,
which was the same rate as Mr. Speck charged.
At,this point Commissioner Paulson
has been involved in some business
Bryant but did not think that this
decision in this matter. After a
discuss this with his clients, Mr.
willing to proceed.
indicated that he
dealings with Mr.
would affect his
grief recess to
Speck state that he was
At this point Mr. Speck began his testimony. He noted
that they had put on the-strongest case possible, in
light of the fact that they are the party being affected
by the proposed action. He noted that relatively speaking,
they had presented a far more complete case than the
petitioner, which of course would reflect a larger
attorney's fee. He stated that Richard Forcum, another
local attorney, had reviewed his billing and had not found
it to be unreasonable. He further discussed different
points relating to fees and costs. He noted that the
Stringfield's had obtained local counsel rather than their
Portland attorney to save costs, but there was time spent
between the two attorneys in order to bring Mr. Speck up
to date. He said that with regard to the engineering, they
felt that the County engineer report was totally inadequate,
so they retained Century West Engineering to do a more
complete report and they charged at their standard rate.
He said that with regard to Mr. LaFranci's fees, he charged
a flat rate and actually spent more time making the appraisal
than what he charged. He had a letter from R.. J'. Frank
indicating the total appraisal fees and listing what is
involved in preparing these reports. Mr. Speck read this
letter aloud. He said that in a similar condemnation
case involving the City of Troutdale, it was found that
not only did the city have to pay for the land, but the
hearing costs as well.
Mr. Bryant stated that under the statute, they are not
allowed to recover the appraisers fees or the fees of
experts because the statute does not provide for it. He
discussed this point further. The intent of the legis-
lature on this point was further argued. Mr. Isham noted
that it was not his feeling that expert witnesses would
not be allowed under the statute under "costs". This
was discussed and debated at length. Chairman Shepard
stated that "it was his feeling that the costs outlined
in Mr. Speck's letter should be acknowledged as the res-
pondent's costs. Commissioner Paulson said that it was
his feeling that the Board could award reasonable attorney's
fees but that the additional expenses could not be considered
costs.; they were not to award them for expenses.
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'Deschutes County Board of Commissioners
July 14, 1982 - Regular Meeting
MOTION: PAULSON moved that the items included in
the June 10, 1982 letter to the Board from
Mr. Speck listed under appraisers fees,
surveyors fees and miscellaneous fees not
be considered for reimbursement.
YOUNG: Second.
VOTE: SHEPARD: NO.
PAULSON: AYE.
YOUNG: AYE.
There was further discussion and debate in regard to
attorney's fees.
MOTION: PAULSON moved "that in"light of the testimony
that we have received and considering that the
Stringfield's required, or didn't require, but
chose two different attorneys, and that the
purpose for choosing two attorneys was to keep
the costs at a minimum, considering that they
are from out of the area, that we award them
$1800--attorney's fees to cover the out of the
area attorney and the local attorney. Previous
testimony indicated a reasonable fee for an
attorney might be up to $1200, however I think
that was in the realm of a local attorney for
a local dispute and that is not entirely correct
in this instance."
YOUNG: Second.
Chairman Shepard said that he felt that this was an
insufficient amount of money and that he was opposed to
the motion. There was further discussion.
VOTE: SHEPARD: NO.
PAULSON: AYE.
YOUNG: AYE.
MOTION: SHEPARD moved that the Board award $700 for
taking and $1500 for damage to the remaining
property.
PAULSON: Second.
VOTE: SHEPARD: AYE.
PAULSON: AYE.
YOUNG: ABSTAIN.
There was some further discussion in regard to fencing,
a locked pate and road maintenance. Mr. Stringfield
explained that it is their desire that the Thompson's
maintain a separate gate from theirs.
MOTION: PAULSON moved "that the Thompsons be re-
quired to access the property off the
BLM right-of-way and to the east of the String-
field's gate and that they, the Thompsons, install
a fence on the west and south portion of their
right-of-way, and that the fence be installed
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July 14, 1982 - Regular Meeting
prior to consttuction of the,home on the
Thompsons' property ...[discussion].... and
prior to using the right-of-way.
SHEPARD: Second.
VOTE: SHEPARD: AYE.
PAULSON: AYE.
YOUNG: ABSTAIN.
The Board instructed counsel to draw an order based
on the Board's decision.
Mr. Speck asked the Board to address 'the issue of
road maintenance, in order that the road will not
cause any erosion or damage to the remaining property.
ORS-376.190 addresses this, noting that the person
is not responsible for maintenance of the way of
necessity if not specifically stated in the order.
MOTION': PAULSON moved that the road be constructed
and maintained by the Thompsons in such a
fashion that it does not damage the String-
field property that joins it.
SHEPARD: Second.
There was some further discussion.
VOTE: SHEPARD: AYE.
PAULSON: NO.
YOUNG: ABSTAIN.
The motion died.
Being no further business, the meeting was adjourned.
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