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DESCHUTES COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
DECEMBER 12, 1984-MEETING MINUTES
Chairman Young called the meeting to order at 10:00 A.M.
Commissioner Tuttle and Commissioner Prante were also in attendance.
Amendments to Chairman Young read aloud the amendments.
the Agenda
Consideration of Chairma
Replat Request to have
for Redmond Mem- waived.
orial Cemetery MOTION:
VOTE:
n Young explained that this is a request
the $315 cemetery replat application fee
PRANTE moved to waive that $315
application fee.
TUTTLE: Second.
UNANIMOUS APPROVAL.
Consideration Dave Hoerning, County Engineer, explained that they
of Forest Dev- have an agreement with the Deschutes National
elopment Agree- Forest for an exchange of road maintenance respons-
ment ibilities.
MOTION: PRANTE moved that the sign the forest
development agreements between the Forest
Service and Deschutes County as presented.
TUTTLE: Second.
VOTE: UNANIMOUS APPROVAL.
Request for In- Commissioner Tuttle explained that the Governor's
clusion on Office has developed this group composed of various
Strategic Water members to do a water basin plan. The letter is a
Planning Group request to Pat Amadeo, of Governor Atiyeh's staff,
for the Deschutes River basin to be included in the
Strategic Water Planning Group's study, which will
be conducted no earlier than 1986.
MOTION: TUTTLE moved to sign the letter making a
request for inclusion for water planning
in the Deschutes River basin.
PRANTE: Second.
VOTE: UNANIMOUS APPROVAL.
Appointments to Chairman Young read aloud a memo to-the Board from
Bend Urban Area Craig Smith, Planning Department, requesting that
Planning Commis- Marilyn Waak, Norm Schultz and Mike Connell be
sion reappointed to four year terms on the Bend Urban
Area Planning Commission.
MOTION: PRANTE so moved.
TUTTLE: Second.
VOTE: APPROVAL; YOUNG ABSTAINED.
DECEMBER 12, 1984 MEETING MINUTES: PAGE 1
Discussion re- County Counsel Rick Isham explained that the Comm-
garding Commun- ittee is requesting the transfer of $6,000 from the
ity Corrections training fund into the alcohol program for
Advisory Commit- purchasing bed space. This would purchase 83 bed
tee days for alcohol treatment.
They are also recommending that the Board delay any
action or involvement in their planning process
until after the legislature adjourns, so they will
know how much money the program is working with.
They will continue the present program for at least
another year, through December, 1985, with the
current plan. After than they can develop a new
plan knowing how much money they have to work with.
MOTION: TUTTLE moved that they delay making any
changes in the Community Corrections
relationship until the legislature has met
and adjourned.
PRANTE: Second.
VOTE: UNANIMOUS APPROVAL.
MOTION: PRANTE moved to approve the transfer of
$6,000.
TUTTLE: Second.
VOTE: UNANIMOUS APPROVAL.
Order 84-291, This is an order transferring $126,100 from and
Budgeted Cash within various funds of the budget and directing
Transfer entries. Chairman Young read aloud the funds and
the respective transfers as listed in the order.
MOTION: PRANTE moved to adopt the order.
TUTTLE: Second.
VOTE: UNANIMOUS APPROVAL.
Order 84-290, MOTION: PRANTE moved to adopt the order.
Appropriations TUTTLE: Second.
Transfers VOTE: UNANIMOUS APPROVAL.
Continuation of Chairman Young outlined the the rules of the
Geothermal hearing, allowing 45 minutes for testimony from
Amendment to each side. He then called for the staff report.
Comprehensive
Plan John Andersen, Community Development Director.,
submitted to the record letters they had received
in regard to the proposed ordinance. He then
introduced Elliot Allen, of Elliot Allen &
Associates, Salem, the consulting firm retained to
develop the Geothermal Element of the Comprehensive
Plan. Mr. Allen came forward to deliver staff
comments on the proposed amendment.
Mr. Allen showed slides of various geothermal
plants in other areas. He noted that the industry
DECEMBER 12, 1984 MEETING MINUTES: PAGE 2
trend is to make the plants smaller; moving away
from the larger plants seen in the slides. Some
plants are using sites as small as five acres. He
noted that low temp direct utilization is being
used in Klamath Falls, and that may be something
that is used in Deschutes County.
He stated that the proposed geothermal element has
three purposes: (1) to serve as a local guideline
for planning and development;_(2) BPA wants an
estimate of how many resources are available in the
County, and the element contains estimates prepared
for BPA; and (3) it is intended to comply with LCDC
and other land use statutes in the state.
Through the proposed geothermal element, the County
will provide advisory rules to other agencies such
as the Forest Service and BLM. It will also
regulate the use of private and state owned lands
in the county.
Mr. Allen stated that the element is generally
supportive of geothermal resources in the County.
There is notable potential for both low and high
temp geothermal resources in the County. He felt
that development should be able to occur without
creating adverse impacts. They need more resource
data in order to be more specific about the
impacts. They don't know enough about where the
resource is, and what type of resource it is, and
as a result, they don't have specific impact data
compiled. There is a broad range of potential
impacts. The Planning Commission did feel that
there were serious potential impacts, both
environmentally and economically, in the County
where the resources occur in areas highly used for
recreation and tourism. They have received a
considerable amount of cooperation and information
from the industry, but the information was limited,
and minimal site specific impacts are in the
document.
The policies are advisory to the Federal and State
governments, but directly applicable to the
privately owned lands. The policies and standards
are reasonable and well-suited to the County. The
data issue would be resolved through the site
specific application of the policies and standards.
The only site that has received concern is Newberry
Crater. It had been felt that the recreational
uses in the crater area are too important to allow
them to be jeopardized by geothermal development.
The question is where to draw the line where
development should be excluded. There are 160
DECEMBER 12, 1984 MEETING MINUTES: PAGE 3
acres of privately owned land in the caldera. The
rest of the land is owned by the Forest Service.
The Forest Service will be amending their plan in
January, 1985. They have asked for the County's
recommendation as early as possible.
There was some further discussion on where to draw
the line around the crater, delineating where
geothermal development could and could not occur.
Mr. Allen strongly recommended a line less
restrictive than that recommended by the Planning
department, which he showed on the map. That line
was represented on the map in red. It is at the
7000 foot level, outside the lip of the caldera and
down the edge of it. This would allow the
utilization of more of the resource, but would not
affect any area of heavy recreational use, nor
affect any critical wildlife habitat. Development
there would not cause visual impact to the area.
It joins or includes land that has been logged; or
is going to be logged (according to the Forest
Service five-year plan).
It was noted that the Board of Commissioners
received a letter from Dwight and Maryanne Newton
that will be submitted to the record.
John Andersen, Planning Director, then showed the
videotape he had made of the Newberry Crater area.
Chairman Young then called for challenges of the
hearings body. There were none. He then opened
the public hearing. He limited each side to 45
minutes to present their testimony.
Michael Cale, Geothermal Resources International,
Santa Rosa, CA, came forward. They are the company
that will be the operator that Mr. Allen had
mentioned. They have reviewed and support the
element. They support the red boundary line.
Jane Poor, 415 NW Newport, Bend, urged the Board to
accept the recommendations as submitted by Elliot
Allen regarding the boundaries and geothermal
development. She opposes geothermal development
within the caldera. She read aloud a letter which
states opposition to development within that
certain area.
Anna Carter., California Energy Corporation, came
forward. They are in favor of the ordinance as
recommended by John Andersen, including the red
DECEMBER 12, 1984 MEETING MINUTES: PAGE 4
boundary. She urged that when they develop
language that they be extremely careful about the
way it is written.
There were no further comments in favor of the
ordinance. Chairman Young then called for comments
in opposition.
Myer. Avedovech, 315 NW Greenwood, Bend, came
forward. He is the attorney representing LaPine
Pumice Co. He handed each Board member a packet of
written testimony. LaPine Pumice Company owns land
in the core of the crater. Mr. Avedovech showed
this property on maps he had put up on the wall.
He then explained the contents of the packets.
There was some information that relates to the
geothermal potential of the area. They have a
pumice area that are currently being worked in the
area. There were also maps showing Newberry Crater
put out by the Deschutes National Forest, and a map
indicating elevation of the existing roads into the
crater itself. There was also a picture of what a
plant in that area could look like. This would
include buildings and power lines.
Dave Brown, Pinacle Geotechnical, came forward. He
is presently working in Washington, Idaho,
California, Oregon and Nevada on geothermal
development. He said that he would have liked to
have seen a slide'of the Lakeview project in the
slides shown earlier by Mr. Allen. That is the
plant that LaPine Pumice would like to put on their
site. The plants are very small and non-impacting.
It takes about a five-acre site. The cooling pool
takes half of the site. It will be taken out and
normal towers put in. He noted that impacts vary
from site to site. There have been almost no
blowouts in the last 10 to 15 years. He only knew
of one such incident which occured about one year
ago. He stated that he is currently working on a
plant that takes only three acres, but it is not a
modular design plant. He also noted that the
picture provided in Mr. Avedovech's packet is not a
plant designed by the company that would design the
proposed Newberry Crater plant. He then spoke
about the crater itself. He asked that the Board
look at some photos of the pumice cone. They type
of cooling that will be used at the pumice cone
will not be the same as at the geysers. They would
be air cooled, much the same as an air conditioner
on the top of a building, condensing existing air.
LaPine Pumice Co. proposes to suspend their
full-scale mining plans and put in a science park
similar to that at Lava Butte. It will be paid for
DECEMBER 12, 1984 MEETING MINUTES: PAGE 5
and maintained by the power plant. They feel that
this would augment the recreation inside the
crater. They will leave the Board with a set of
ster.eopairs under the stereoscope as evidence for
the record.
Gary Hickman, Century West Engineering, Bend, came
forward. Century west provides local engineers for
LaPine Pumice Co. He has visited the site, which
is very unique. When visiting the site, one
appreciates the topography and unusual aspect of
the site. One would not realize there was a pumice
mine at that site. The reason there is private
property is that the government issued a mining
claim on that site. They are proposing a small
plant with minimal impacts. He stated that the
site inside the red boundary is probably one of the
finest sites in the US today. He asked that the
Board consider this in their decision.
Mr. Avedovech said that there is only really one
part of the element that they take exception to,
and that is the development boundary. They would
like to have the 160 acres that LaPine Pumice Co.
owns in the middle of the caldera included in the
land allowed for development. They also don't want
the part that prohibits them (page 99, Policy
10.A.1.) from exploring the area for geothermal
potential. There are a number of palces in the
element that need to be highlighted. On page 26,
under Newberry Volcano, High Temp Resources, page
27, states that additional drilling will be
necessary to find out what the potential is. They
are asking for an amendment to the element that
will allow them to explore the potential. On page
57, they will not have to construct new power lines
to the site because they are already there. Page
57 also says that one problem is that they will
have to put in power lines. It is in the middle of
a recreational area but it will have no visual
impact unless they walk into the area. They will
have no more knowledge than they will of the pumice
mine that is there now. They strongly disagree
that simply by having this they have an
industrialization of the area. The basis for
Section 10 of Article 7 on page 100 is that they
are relying on potential conflicts. They feel that
the high-temp resources conflicts contained in
table 4-1, will paralyze the potentialities that
might be there. Table 4-2 has the same disclaimer.
Section 5 of the element can only be discussed in
broad terms because of the lack of site specific
information. On page 73, under Environmental
Imacts, they are asking that they have an
DECEMBER 12, 1984 MEETING MINUTES: PAGE 6
opportunity to prove that there are or are not
negative impacts on the site. On page 86, on the
conclusion of Section 5, they agree, but want the
opportunity to be able to do that. He did not feel
that it was fair to prohibit this project by the
general statements made in the element. On page
99, the land use section, is where they have the
largest problem. He read aloud Section 10. It
says they need to explore, but then goes on to
prohibit exploration in Newberry Crater. They ask
that 10.1.A.1. and maybe 10.1.A.2. be excluded from
the element, the part which prohibits exploration
in the crater area.
The data in the element suggests that there is not
specific data to make this decision on. There is a
potential here for the county to develop one of the
finest geothermal areas in the United States, along
with the science park that may not interfere with,
but enhance, the recreational area. They also-do
not want to create an adverse impact on the area.
This is a plan amendment that has not met the OAR
process of Goal 5 of LCDC. He did not feel that
this was sufficient to meet that. This is a very
unique site. The roads and power lines are already
there. The site would not be visible from
recreational areas. He asked that they modify the
red line and exclude the Newberry Crater core area
for the 160 acres, and prohibit the portion of
Section 10 on page 99 that excludes the area.
Mr. James Miller, 12918 SW 63rd, Portland, OR,
owner of LaPine Pumice Co., showed pictures of the
well site. The government has this set aside for
intense recreational use, and he read aloud a
letter he had written to the Forest Service saying
that geothermal is a geologic activity with very
important scientific and economic interest. He
noted that PG&E gets 300 people a year that want to
tour the geysers located near the Bay area. This
is not open to the public, the 300 visitors were
either from the industry or scientists. The
proposed Newberry Crater plant would be unique in
that the lakes are at right angles from the North
side of the cone. The site is not visible from the
viewpoint, because of the angle of the viewpoint.
Mr. Miller also stated that he had never been
invited to any of the work sessions on this
element. They received the patent to their land in
1980. He stated that geothermal energy is very
clean and renewable. He also noted that the site
could be restored after development by capping the
well. He asked that the Board encourage
exploration.
DECEMBER 12, 1984 MEETING MINUTES: PAGE 7
Dale Miller, Redmond, Oregon, stated that the red
boundary would take away all drilling. He stated
that the Board had only heard from big outfits, and
there is a potential for the lodges to put in small
low temp wells for their own use. He is a well
driller and they drilled the Sandia well not far
from Newberry Crater. That site at that point is
in a valley that cannot be seen from any of the
roads inside the red boundary. Sandia capped the
well at the request of local authorities. He
stated that great potential is there for any size
operation. They could put in a few small plants
that could be covered. He feels that if he has to
look at the fishermen, they can look at geothermal
plants.
Ken Travis, 16221 North Drive, LaPine, stated that
with the criteria the County has for site plans,
plants could be installed in such a way as to
enhance tourism and industry in the area.
Anna Carter asked that they give full consideration
to allowing whatever is compatible on a site
specific basis.
Dale Miller stated that some of the proposed
projects can be piped out of the area to another
site and there would be nothing visible at the well
site.
James Miller stated that there is an article from
Iceland that says that pumice is an ideal medium
for burying this pipe.
Chairman Young called for rebuttal comments.
Elliot Allen wanted to clarify a point made by
James Miller, relating to citizen involvement.
There were newspaper stories and notices given to
industrial trade groups. They also mailed notices
to every geothermal leaseholder in the county. In
response to Myer. Avedovech's comments about the
exclusion of all activity inside either the red or
green line, the thinking on the part of the
Planning Commission was that the resource potential
was not an issue. There is a significant resource
there. He also noted that he had pointed out the
lack of site specific data available. This must be
a continuing process. Given the amount of
information available to the Planning Commission,
they felt that recreation and tourism would be too
greatly jeopardized by these exploration and plant
activities. They are only talking about
withdrawing about 15% of the resource area.
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Considerable access to the resource remains.
Lastly, he is confused by the comment that LCDC is
not satisfied. He said that the LCDC complimented
the Goal 5 element and the period of objection
passed about two months ago, and there were no
objections.
Mr. Avedovech suggested that excluding this 15%,
which is the heart of the geothermal development,
is inappropriate. There is still no data which
would indicate that by allowing exploration
any negative impact would happen in the area. He
stated that the County is losing nothing in
allowing their request, they want the opportunity
to provide the County the evidence necessary on a
site specific application. They need more data
from a site specific exploration.
Chairman Young called for questions from the
Commissioners. Commissioner Tuttle asked about the
Goal 5 process. He also asked if there was a
signed power contract of some nature. Mr. Miller
responded that they don't have one, but BPA is very
interested. There is a market for a 10 megawatt
plant. This power would be sold to the BPA grid
system so Deschutes County would still be a deficit
power county.
Commissioner Prante asked Dan Brown about the power
lines. There would be three additional lines if
the plant were operating at peak capacity.
Commissioner Prante indicated that she would like
to opportunity to make a site visit to the Lakeview
plant. It was the Board's consensus to continue
the hearing until after that visit takes place,
allowing opportunity for testimony relating to the
site visit at a later time.
MOTION: PRANTE moved to continue the hearing to
January 9 for a site visit.
TUTTLE: Second.
VOTE: UNANIMOUS APPROVAL.
Request for. Before the Board were requests for refund from the
Refunds/ CDD Community Development Department. They were as
follows: to Jim Pritchard in the amount of $52.00;
to L. M. Ross in the amount of $18.20; to R. A.
Howells in the amount of $20.80. These were
approved.
Other. Staff/ There were none.
Public Concerns
DECEMBER 12, 1984 MEETING MINUTES: PAGE 9
Signature of
MOTION:
PRANTE moved to approve the lease
for.
Lease for Red-
the Redmond Sheriff's Substation.
mond Sheriff's
TUTTLE: Second.
Substation
VOTE:
UNANIMOUS APPROVAL.
Approval of
It was
noted that this must be done in a p
ublic
two-year leave
meeting
according to the Personnel Rules.
This had
of Absence for
been do
ne earlier, but not in a meeting.
They will
Brian Fagan
be appr
oving this nunc pro tunc.
MOTION:
PRANTE moved to sign.the letter
authorizing the two year leave of
absence
for Brian Fagan.
TUTTLE: Second.
VOTE:
UNANIMOUS APPROVAL.
Personal Ser- This is for removal of asbestos from the Greenwood
vices Contract Building prior to remodeling.
with EJ Bartelli MOTION: PRANTE moved to sign the Personal Services
Contract with E J Bartelli and Co.
TUTTLE: Second.
VOTE: UNANIMOUS APPROVAL.
The contract is in the amount of $6,592.
Being no further business, the meeting adjourned.
DESCHUTES COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
Albert A. Young,/Chair
Lo' Bristow Prante, Commissioner
Laurence A.'Tuttle, Commissioner
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DECEMBER 12, 1984 MEETING MINUTES: PAGE 10
SEVENTH MOUNTAIN COUNTY SERVICE DISTRICT
BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING
DECEMBER 12, 1984
Chairman Abe Young called to order the meeting of the Deschutes
County Board of Commissioners acting as the Board of Directors for
the Seventh Mountain County Service District immediately following
the regular Commission meeting. Commissioner Lois Prante and
Commissioner. Larry Tuttle were also present. The purpose of this
meeting is to redesignate the District's registered agent.
Chairman Young read aloud the resolution before them.
MOTION: TUTTLE moved to adopt Resolution 84-058 and direct the
Chairman to sign the Notice of Registered Agent.
PRANTE: Second.
VOTE: UNANIMOUS APPROVAL.
Being no further business, the meeting was adjourned.
DESCHUTES COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
Albert A. Young 4Chairmari'1
L i Bristow Prante, Commissioner
Laurence A. Tuttle, Commissioner
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