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1300 NW Wall St., Suite 200, Bend, OR 97701-1960
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MINUTES OF WORK SESSION
DESCHUTES COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 5, 2007
Present were Commissioners Michael M. Daly, Dennis R. Luke and Tammy Baney.
Also present were Dave Kanner, County Administrator; Erik Kropp, Deputy
County Administrator; David Inbody, Assistant to the Administrator; and, for a
portion of the meeting, Mark Pilliod, Legal Counsel; Timm Schimke, Solid Waste
Department; Anna Johnson, Communications; a representative of KOHD TV and
Patrick Cliff of The Bulletin; four other citizens; and, by conference call, Bill
Hanka and Sean Morgan of the Ferguson Group.
Chair Daly opened the meeting at 1: 30 p. m.
1. Conference Call with Ferguson Group.
Commissioner Luke asked Bill Hanka if the County payments bill is moving
through. Mr. Hanka stated that Senator Wyden included a four-year extension
of the rural schools bill with the comprehensive energy bill. The House whip
office is still waiting for final language. It should be considered this week. It is
felt this bill will be enacted before the end of the year. He added that there has
to be an offset in this situation.
Commissioner Baney said she met a Ferguson Group representative and was
impressed. She has asked for updates and conference calls throughout the year,
however. She appreciates the information being sent to the Board but is
concerned about the money spent on a federal lobbyist and the action that
occurs outside of the information being shared. She wants to hear about the
meetings and contacts they make.
Mr. Hanka explained that they represent almost exclusively local governments
in 27 states. This question is not unusual for them. All clients are elected
officials and have to justify the expenditure of public funds for this purpose.
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In regard to contact with Deschutes County, he said in the four years they have
worked with the County they have used regular communications as issues
become relevant. If there is breaking news or new information, they will use e-
mail or phone. He has always welcomed the idea of regular monthly or bi-
monthly conference calls, and can also provide written reports. This has not
been requested in the past but they will tailor reporting as the County requests.
Commissioner Baney stated that she feels they are good at communicating with
the County.
Commissioner Luke asked if they have video conferencing capability. Mr.
Hanka replied that most of their clients do not, so therefore they don't use this.
Mr. Hanka said in response to the justification of hiring his firm, it is clear that
the Commissioners do not need his firm to provide access to the Congressional
delegation, as the County already has a good relationship with them. However,
he feels that his firm is the County's Deschutes County office. They also assist
delegation's staff with their requirements. In January, he and others typically
meet with County departments to determine priorities, and try to match those up
with federal programs or funding. Department staff is working hard on the day-
to-day issues and cannot always focus on what is happening in Washington DC.
Commissioner Baney stated that there are a lot of needs in the County, and
revenue is down so there are some tough decisions to make. $80,000 seems to
be a small number but is very big for some of the departments and programs.
She asked if there could be an option to work with Mr. Hanka's firm on certain
issues rather than have a set contract. Mr. Hanka replied that they want to serve
the best way they can and are aware of financial issues, but don't want to lose
the County. The firm has guidelines it must follow, and a full-service contract
is the current minimum. The new minimum is $10,500 per month, much more
than what the County is now paying. They represent four other Oregon
counties.
Commissioner Luke said the firm interacts a lot with delegation staff and know
what it takes to get something ready for an appropriations request.
At this point, the group discussed the status of specific Bills. The call ended at
2:00 p.m.
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Commissioner Luke noted that the contract expires the end of the year, and it
needs to be processed for the new year. Commissioner Daly said that he has
worked with Mr. Hanka, and the firm works with both sides of the aisle, and in
the past year alone they have helped the County get $1 million in FEMA funds.
It was the first time FEMA had done this type of funding. Also, Crook County
and Deschutes County got $500,000 for 19` Street. He added that he realizes is
it a team effort that takes all three, the County, the delegation and Ferguson
Group.
Commissioner Baney stated that she enjoyed working with them and is happy
with the information being sent, but thinks $80,000 is too much. She feels that
the County could have more contact with the delegation. She thinks that
Ferguson keeps the County on the ball by providing information, but doesn't
think it is worth that much money. The County can work with delegation staff.
Commissioner Luke observed that someone at the County would have to be
designated to do that; it is an art and takes a lot of time. The departments are
not equipped to deal with the political system. Appropriation requests are very
difficult. Someone at the County would have to be paid to do this work. If a
firm were hired to handle individual projects, the cost would be at least that
much anyway. Tumalo Irrigation District spent a lot more than that on one
project.
Commissioner Daly agreed. He said that Lane County spent more than that on
a single project. Ferguson Group is the County's eyes and ears there.
Commissioner Baney said that the County paid $39,000 to the State PAC, and
they meet with the County regularly. Commissioner Luke stated that the State
lobbyist only has to deal with the legislature every two years. If it was every
year, it would cost twice as much, and they don't have to travel as far. When
the County looked for a lobbyist, there were a lot of proposals, but the County
would have been a small client for most of them. Large firms can't give the
service. Ferguson represents local governments and smaller clients and doesn't
get involved in the political process.
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He added that if there aren't three votes, he would abstain. He had concerns at
first but feels they have done a good job, and have fulfilled all of the
commitments and promises. Commissioner Daly added that four years ago he
felt the same way. He asked Commissioner Baney, since she is new, to give it a
year and see what happens.
Commissioner Baney said that she is not convinced that the County can't
change the way it does things to garner the same results. She stated that maybe
she will have to get into the delegation offices to push specific things.
Commissioner Luke said that it is naive to think that way. Committee staff
keeps things running and the County has little chance of meeting with them.
The County needs people there who can get into the committees and meet
regularly. In DC, relationships are everything, and that's how things happen. If
something gets into a Bill, the lobbyist has done its job. The contract is
reasonable for what they do, and there won't be any savings in the long run.
Commissioner Daly added that he feels letting them go is very poor foresight.
He said that it will be up to Commissioner Baney to fight for things back in DC;
he won't go back there if he doesn't have help getting things done.
BANEY: Move that we don't renew the Ferguson Group contract.
LUKE: Second.
VOTE: BANEY: Yes.
LUKE: Yes.
DALY: Chair votes no. (Split vote.)
2. Solid Waste Department Update.
Timm Schimke discussed an RFP on the demo landfill project. He wants DEQ
to look at the documents as well, since they permit the site each ten years and
he would like to know their perspective. He applied for a renewal, and so far it
has taken a year. The draft permit should be ready for comments in early
January. The permit will have a phase II site requirement, which is
groundwater assessment; this was not required previously. It is important to
deal with the DEQ cleanup division regarding cleanup and remediation. DEQ
policy changes and the County needs one voice from them; right now there are
mixed messages from different divisions.
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The same thing happened at the South County landfill; the County worked with
DEQ cleanup who eventually said there was an impact of less than one in a
million chance of pollution; but the solid waste division said it was not
acceptable. This took years until there was finally a compromise. This is not a
new problem with the various divisions at DEQ.
The approach is to gather as much data as possible; what can be used for hog
fuel and what needs to be hauled away. This will be put on the street for
various developers to use to decide whether they are interested.
Mr. Kanner added that the DEQ will determine if any protective measures need
to be taken. A lot depends on the eventual use. So far they have indicated that
it might be developed with the waste in place.
In regard to the new facilities, Mr. Schimke said that the severe windstorm blew
the doors off their tracks, and the building had to be closed and traffic
redirected to the landfill area. The doors were removed for safety. It appears to
be an installation problem; there is a device needed to prevent this type of flex,
and it is being corrected.
Mr. Schimke stated that Brownrigg is transferring its operation over to Waste
Connection, the third largest firm of its kind in the country. This will be
addressed at the December 17 Board meeting.
3. Discussion of Community Justice Community Values Survey.
Robin Marshall of the Commission on Children & Families is trying to identify
gaps in the system; they are developing a needs assessment, including trend
data. A survey was conducted in 1998 and they want to do it again to identify
what values are now. They will utilize a cross-section of the community, using
County employees other than those in law enforcement.
Commissioner Luke noted that some questions are either/or, and they really
aren't that cut and dried. Ms. Marshall stated that they are the same questions
as in 1998 and 2002. They were developed by OSU and the terminology
behind it is for the average person.
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She said at some point Ken Hales will share the results. More is known now
than in 1998. They want to identify risky behavior and how the community
views it.
Commissioner Luke said that too many questions are not black and white, and
he feels using County employees is not an accurate cross-section. There need
to be other working people involved. All have health insurance available and
may have a better understanding of the issues than other people may.
Commissioner Daly noted that there are different classes of people than in the
County. Ms. Marshall stated that this is a beginning. The results will be
brought back to the Board, including any others that are surveyed.
4. Other Items.
Mr. Kanner said that in January or February the COVA Board should be invited
to talk about transient lodging tax. This will have to be referred to the voters by
mid-March. There is a sense that some members are concerned about it.
Information Technology has presented information about a strategic plan,
including e-mail archiving, and want to set up a three-tiered system for this.
One tier would be administration, the Board and legal counsel - these would be
archived for ten years. The second tier would be department heads, personnel
and risk management - these would be archived for five years. Other
employee a-mails would be archived for two years.
Commissioner Luke noted that a new I.T. director will be hired soon; he asked
if this shouldn't wait until then. Mr. Kanner said that it is a policy call, and
there is a need to start archiving some of it now.
Mr. Kanner stated that the Historical Planner position, which is shared between
the City of Bend and the County, has been laid off. It is unknown if the
County's portion has already been paid. Commissioner Daly said that the City
is replacing the position with one of its own planners, but the Landmarks and
Historic Places Commission is a County body.
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The planner was doing work for both, but the City had more work and moved
her there under contract. She has been told that she doesn't have any seniority
with the City, but she had been assured she would have seniority because of all
her years at the County. The City's new Community Development Director
said he didn't know about that.
Commissioner Luke said that the position cannot be eliminated. Mr. Kanner
said that she is a City employee now and there is no intergovernmental
agreement in place to handle this situation.
Mark Pilliod said that he spoke with the Clackamas County deputy attorney
about Measure 49, and he will probably attend the meeting in Salem. A
suggestion was made that it would be just as effective to send a message before
the close of the hearing. The proposed ruling doesn't state who makes the
decision regarding vested interest. The problem with that type of statement is
that it rules out the idea of a county making a decision locally. The rule should
allow for an opt out or opt in, but would still result in inconsistent decisions.
There is a benefit to have the consistency of the State making all of these
decisions.
The cost of the State making these decisions may be more than having the
decision made locally, but fees are not referred to in the Rule at this time.
These decisions will be more labor intensive for staff.
Mr. Pilliod recommended sending a letter or e-mail to DLCD to support the
concept of DLCD making the vesting determinations, but that individual
counties can also make them locally, and that the fees be reasonable or no
greater than the actual cost of providing services.
Commissioner Luke said the County would probably have to either opt in or opt
out. Mr. Pilliod said that it would be too hard to send just some of them to the
State. Commissioner Luke noted that the City of Bend sends them all to the
State, and lets the State dictate local land use planning. Commissioner Daly
said that the Board has already made a decision to have these cases get to where
they are now, and he doesn't have a problem making a decision at this point
either. He feels this is politically motivated and the Board would be shirking its
duty in this regard if it was to turn them over to the State.
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Being no further discussion, the meeting adjourned at 3:25 p.m.
DATED this 5th Day of December 2007 for the Deschutes County Board
of Commissioners.
ATTEST:
Recording Secretary
Tammy Baney, Commissioner
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Dennis R. Luke, Vice Chair
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Deschutes County Board of Commissioners
1300 NW Wall St., Suite 200, Bend, OR 97701-1960
(541) 388-6570 - Fax (541) 385-3202 - www.deschutes.org
WORK SESSION AGENDA
DESCHUTES COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
1:30 P.M., WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 5, 2007
1. Conference Call with Ferguson Group
2. Solid Waste Department Update
3. Discussion of Community Justice Community Values Survey
4. Other Items
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2007 (FY 2008) Year-end Activity Report
The Ferguson Group (TFG) is pleased to submit a year-end activity report for its work in
2007 on behalf of Deschutes County.
Deschutes County Fiscal Year 2008 Appropriations Agenda
TFG held a conference call on January 22 with County Commissioners and staff to
discuss on-going County needs. TFG then assessed the County's needs and
recommended projects for federal funding and legislative issues to be followed for the
coming year. TFG developed a draft federal legislative agenda that was approved by the
County Commissioners. The agenda identified five appropriations projects. These
projects were:
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19t Street Extension at
$4 million for construction and right of way acquisition
Deschutes Junction
for the extension of 19'h Street from the City of Redmond
to U.S. 97 at Deschutes Junction.
9-1-1 Radio System
$1 million to purchase a new Emergency 911 radio
system.
Family Access Network
$425,000 to stabilize and expand an innovative program
that provides vital services to families of school age
children.
Deschutes County Jail
$500,000 for project planning and management of a jail
expansion.
Bethlehem Inn
$500,000 for acquisition of an existing property and
Homelessness Project
facility.
Following adoption of the federal agenda by the County Commissioners, TFG worked
with County staff to prepare one-page briefing sheets for each project. Additionally,
TFG, with the assistance of County staff, completed numerous, detailed appropriations
project questionnaires required by the Congressional Delegation and the Appropriations
Subcommittees in the Senate and House of Representatives.
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TFG arranged and participated in meetings in March in Washington, D.C. with
Commissioner Daly to present the County's federal agenda to the Oregon Delegation and
provide additional details on the appropriations projects.
TFG has continued to keep the County informed of developments in the appropriations
process in general and in relation to County priorities.
On November 13, TFG reported that $500,000 was included in the Transportation-
Housing and Urban Development Conference Report for the 19th Street Extension
Project.
Secure Rural Schools and Community Self-Determination Act
TFG has continued to keep the County informed of developments on the reauthorization
of the Secure Rural Schools and Community Self-Determination Act of 2000. A long-
term reauthorization of the program has been elusive despite the extensive efforts of the
Oregon Congressional Delegation. Over the past year, TFG has participated in
stakeholder briefings and kept the County apprised of the numerous varied proposals to
reauthorize the program. These proposals include one year authorizations in emergency
supplemental appropriation legislation, long-term reauthorizations proposed to be
included in emergency supplementals, and House and Senate proposals with different
offsets and alterations from the current funding formula.
Noxious Weed Meetings
In late February, TFG arranged and participated in Hill meetings with Dan Sherwin, the
County's Noxious Weed Program Manager. Mr. Sherwin and TFG met with the House
and Senate delegation, appropriations committee staff, and the National Noxious Weed
Program Manager at the United States Department of Agriculture to advocate for funds to
be appropriated for currently authorized, yet unfunded, noxious weed programs. Each
meeting also discussed the importance of the Secure Rural Schools program in providing
funds to combat invasive species.
FEMA Wildfire Grant Support
TFG participated in a meeting between Commissioner Daly and the Federal Emergency
Management Agency on March 5 in Washington, D.C. Commissioner Daly stressed the
importance of wildland fire prevention in the Northwest. Following the meeting, TFG
composed a draft letter of support for the County's FEMA Pre-disaster Mitigation grant
application and solicited congressional support. Congressman Walden and Senator Smith
sent letters of support for the grant - which was ultimately successful in receiving $1
million.
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Bend Chamber of Commerce
On March 27, TFG met with representatives of the Bend Chamber of Commerce during
the Chamber's annual trip to Washington, D.C. At that meeting, TFG provided strategic
advice to the Chamber on working with the Department of Labor on an insurance issue
that was mired in the Department's bureaucracy.
Meeting with Commissioner Daly at the July National Association of Counties
Meetin
On July 16, TFG met with Commissioner Daly in Richmond at the NACo conference.
TFG updated Commissioner Daly on the status of the appropriations requests and the
latest developments on the Secure Rural Schools program.
Medicaid Rule Change
TFG has provided frequent updates on reauthorization of the State Children's Health
Insurance Program (SCHIP) in response to inquiries from the Deschutes County Family
Access Network. The Administration is in the process of a rulemaking that would make
cuts in Medicare to the current school-based reimbursement program for administrative
and transportation services - a significant source of funds for the Family Access
Network. Several versions of the SCHIP reauthorization bill contain a provision that
would prevent the Administration from implementing the proposed rule until either 2008
or 2010 depending on the version of the legislation. Reauthorization of SCHIP is
contentious and one version of the reauthorization has been vetoed by President Bush.
TFG continues to provide status updates and analysis on the reauthorization as well as
possible legislative vehicles that could include the Medicaid rule change moratorium.
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Solid Waste Update
December 5, 2007
Agenda
1. Demolition Landfill project update
2. New Facilities report.
3. Other
Community Justice Survey
Community "Values" Questionnaire
9/27/07 D-R-A-FT
1. To reduce juvenile crime, would you support Deschutes County spending more money on
jails and prisons?
a. Yes
b. No
2. To reduce juvenile crime, would you spend more money on education, job training and
community programs for teen criminals?
a. Yes
b. No
3. Which one do you support more- spending more money on jails and prisons, or spending
more money on education, job training, and community programs for teen criminals?
a. Jails, Prisons
b. Education, training and other community programs
4. When young people commit non-violent crimes", which punishment do you support more-
jail sentences, or alternatives such as paying the victim, community service, work programs,
or mediation between victims and offenders? non-violent crimes = burglary or vandalism)
a. Jails
b. Alternatives
5. When young people commit non-violent crimes'`, do you support required treatment
programs, such as drug and alcohol treatment, or anger management classes, as appropriate
to each convicted offender? non-violent crimes = burglary or vandalism)
• Yes
• No
5a. if you learned that such required treatment programs are expensive to taxpayers,
would you still support them?
• Yes
• No
5b. how much would you support them?
• A lot
• Some
• A Little
6. Do you strongly agree (1), somewhat agree (2), somewhat disagree (3), or strongly disagree
(4) with the f ollowing statements? (circle top for eadb statenvr below)
a. Crimes committed by young people is a major problem in Deschutes County
1 2 3 4
b. The juvenile justice system is effective in getting young people to stop committing
ziolent crimes
1 2 3 4
c. The juvenile justice system is effective in getting young people to stop non-vVxnt
crimes
1 2 3 4
d. Increasing prevention services for young people in the community before they get in
trouble is effective in reducing juvenile crime.
1 2 3 4
7. In your opinion, rank (in order 1-5, 5 being least) the following "risky' behaviors associated
with juvenile crime in order from most important to least important::
a. anti-social attitudes, values or beliefs. ("It's ok to steal a candy bar. The store isn't
going to go out of business because of it.") 1 2 3 4 5
b. anti-social peers (friends who have anti-social attitudes, values or beliefs, or who
have been involved in the juvenile justice system) 1 2 3 4 5
c. alcohol and other drug abuse 1 2 3 4 5
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d. poor family functioning (lack of parental supervision, lack of/ inconsistency
expectations, rules and appropriate consequences, etc) 1 2 3 4 5
e. lack of success in school 1 2 3 4 5
8. Research shows that youth who commit a crime at or before the age of 12 have a higher risk
of continuing involvement with the justice system, than youth who begin committing crimes
after the age of 12. In your opinion, what age group do you feel is the age group to focus
juvenile crime prevention services?
a. Newborn - 5
b. 6-11
c. 12 -14
d. 15 - 18
9. Deschutes County has a program which allows crime victims to meet with the person who
committed the crime. The purpose of the meeting is to let the offender know how their
victim was affected by the crime and to work out a repayment plan. A trained mediator is
present at these meetings. If you were the victim of a non-violent crime (such as burglary or
vandalism), how likely is it that you would want to participate in this program?
a. Very likely
b. Somewhat likely
c. Not very likely
d. Not at all