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Deschutes County Board of Commissioners
1300 NW Wall St., Bend, OR 97701-1960
(541) 388-6570 - Fax (541) 385-3202 - www.deschutes.org
MINUTES OF BUSINESS MEETING
DESCHUTES COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
MONDAY, OCTOBER 26, 2009
Commissioners' Hearing Room - Administration Building - 1300 NW Wall St., Bend
Present were Commissioners. Tammy Baney, Dennis R. Luke and Alan Unger.
Also present were Dave Kanner, County Administrator; Cynthia Smidt and Nick
Lelack, Community Development; Laurie Craghead, Legal Counsel, and one other
citizen. No representatives of the media were present.
Chair Baney opened the meeting at 10: 00 a. m.
1. Before the Board was Citizen Input.
None was offered.
2. Before the Board was Continuation of a Public Hearing on Ordinance No.
2009-023, a Text Amendment regarding the Sign Ordinance.
Cynthia Smidt gave an overview of the item. Representatives of several groups
and the City of La Pine all submitted comments. Only Carlson Sign Company
has not done so at this point. The County's Planning Commission had no
further comments at their last meeting, nor did the City of La Pine.
Ms. Craghead said she realized that the drive-up window issue needs to be
better defined (specifically menu boards). Commercial speech is not as
protected as private speech, but an additional ground mounted sign rather than a
"reader board".
A discussion then took place regarding other kinds of drive-up windows, such
as those used by banks.
Commissioner Unger stated that 14 square feet is not that large; he wondered
why that figure was selected. He asked what the cities require.
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Ms. Smidt said this has changed over time, but the maximum now is 14 square
feet. Ms. Craghead stated that other jurisdictions don't prescribe content.
Chair Baney said that she would like to have comments from Carlson Sign
Company before taking action. Ms. Craghead asked what comments it is
believed they wanted. Ms. Baney observed that she wants to make sure the best
policy is adopted. Ms. Smidt believes that there will be additional helpful
comments. Chair Baney said that this is the largest sign company in the area
and this input may be important.
Ms. Craghead asked whether the statement regarding "menu board" should
remain. Case law is not clear, and probably the term "fast food" should not be
used, either. Commissioner Unger said that 12 foot square should be okay for
this use.
Chair Baney expressed concerns about future challenges. Ms. Craghead said
that the County wants to avoid potential problems in the future regarding drive-
up businesses such as dry cleaners, pharmacies and so on.
Chair Baney would like to see this opened up more broadly. Commissioner
Unger is looking at the opposite, not broadening it, but that menu boards might
be something banks or others might want to do in the future.
The hearing was continued to 10 a.m., November 9, allowing only the
submission of written documentation.
3. Before the Board were Additions to the Agenda.
Commissioner Unger said that a company is willing to donate homeless
shelters. The shelters are self-contained and are either 14 x 14 or 16 x 16 feet.
No one at the regional meeting regarding homelessness knows where to put
them. He suggested to Linda Johnson that they bring over three units - one for
each county - and see what works. They have heat and electrical power. Often
"granny flats" or buildings for medical hardship cases allow for such things.
Commissioner Luke stated that land use is not that simple, if you plan to site
something without septic systems and other improvements. Commissioner
Unger noted that if the local counties don't take them, they are going elsewhere.
Chair Baney said that there is some apprehension regarding what might be
construed as sub-standard housing. Commissioner Unger explained that it's
better than a tent underneath a bridge. It all depends on where you want to
draw the line.
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Commissioner Luke said that land use is all about precedence. This would be
better in the cities and not in the counties, due to availability of waste disposal
issues. If these are offered to the homeless, who else should be entitled to them.
A city commercial zone would be best. Temporary structures may not meet
minimum requirements.
Mr. Kanner said that they should be located within the city limits. Perhaps out
of the 1609 let 40 churches take them. This would put people close to
infrastructure and transportation systems. Nick Lelack noted that only the
urban unincorporated areas would fit, as there is a lack of services in the other
areas. A meeting of the cities and counties should happen to talk about this.
Once the units are there, it will be impossible to get them out, but it may be a
good opportunity for this kind of thing.
Chair Baney will call Linda Johnson to find out the timing and other issues.
Commissioner Unger said he has asked Erik Kropp to act as a convener, not to
obligate the County to carry this forward and do all the work, but just to keep
things moving. He also noted that there were no representatives from Crook or
Jefferson counties or the City of Prineville at the meeting.
Being no further items addressed, the meeting adjourned at 10:45 a. m.
DATED this 26th Day of October 2009 for the Deschutes County Board
of Commissioners.
ATTEST:
Recording Secretary
Tammy Baney, Chair
Dennis R. Luke, Vice Chair
Qam-
Alan Unger, Commissioner
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Deschutes County Board of Commissioners
1300 NW Wall St., Bend, OR 97701-1960
(541) 388-6570 - Fax (541) 385-3202 - www.deschutes.org
BUSINESS MEETING AGENDA
DESCHUTES COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
10:00 A.M., MONDAY, OCTOBER 26, 2009
Commissioners' Hearing Room - Administration Building - 1300 NW Wall St., Bend
1. CITIZEN INPUT
This is the time provided for individuals wishing to address the Board, at the Board's
discretion, regarding issues that are not already on the agenda. Citizens who wish to speak
should sign up prior to the beginning of the meeting on the sign-up cards provided. Please
use the microphone and also state your name and address at the time the Board calls on you
to speak. PLEASE NOTE: Citizen input regarding matters that are or have been the subject
of a public hearing will NOT be included in the record of that hearing.
2. CONTINUATION of a Public Hearing on Ordinance No. 2009-023, a Text
Amendment regarding the Sign Ordinance - Cynthia Smidt, Community
Development
3. ADDITIONS TO THE AGENDA
Deschutes County meeting locations are wheelchair accessible.
Deschutes County provides reasonable accommodations for persons with disabilities.
For deaf, hearing impaired or speech disabled, dial 7-1-1 to access the state transfer relay service for TTY.
Please call (541) 388-6571 regarding alternative formats or for further information.
FUTURE MEETINGS:
(Please note: Meeting dates and times are subject to change. All meetings take place in the Board of
Commissioners ' meeting rooms at 1300 NW Wall St., Bend, unless otherwise indicated. If you have questions
regarding a meeting, please call 388-6572)
Board of Commissioners' Business Meeting Agenda Monday, October 26, 2009
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Monday, October 26
10:00 a.m. Board of Commissioners' Meeting
1:30 p.m. Administrative Work Session - could include executive session(s)
Wednesday, October 28
10:00 a.m. Board of Commissioners' Meeting
1:30 p.m. Administrative Work Session - could include executive session(s)
Monday, November 2
10:00 a.m. Board of Commissioners' Meeting
1:30 p.m. Administrative Work Session - could include executive session(s)
3:30 p.m. Regular Meeting of LPSCC (Local Public Safety Coordinating Council)
Wednesday, November 4
10:00 a.m. Board of Commissioners' Meeting
1:30 p.m. Administrative Work Session - could include executive session(s)
Monday, November 9
10:00 a.m. Board of Commissioners' Meeting
12 noon Regular Meeting with Department Directors
1:30 p.m. Administrative Work Session - could include executive session(s)
Wednesday, November 11
Most County Offices will be closed to observe Veterans' Day.
Thursday, November 10
7:00 a.m. Regular Meeting with the City of Redmond Council - Redmond City Hall
3:00 p.m. COACT Meeting, Redmond
November 15 through 20
Annual Association of Oregon Counties' Conference - Portland
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Thursday, November 26
Most County Offices will be closed to observe Thanksgiving
Friday, November 27
Most County Offices will be closed to observe Thanksgiving (unpaid day off)
Monday, November 30
10:00 a.m. Board of Commissioners' Meeting
1:30 p.m. Administrative Work Session - could include executive session(s)
Wednesday, December 2
10:00 a.m. Board of Commissioners' Meeting
1:30 p.m. Administrative Work Session - could include executive session(s)
Thursday, December 3
8:00 a.m.
Regular Meeting with Road Department
9:00 a.m.
Regular Meeting with Solid Waste
10:00 a.m.
Regular Update with District Attorney
11:00 a.m.
Regular Update with Community Development
12:00 noon
Meeting of Full Audit Committee
Monday, December 7
10:00 a.m. Board of Commissioners' Meeting
1:30 p.m. Administrative Work Session - could include executive session(s)
3:30 p.m. Regular Meeting of LPSCC (Local Public Safety Coordinating Council)
Wednesday, December 9
10:00 a.m. Board of Commissioners' Meeting
1:30 p.m. Administrative Work Session - could include executive session(s)
Thursday, December 10
11:00 a.m. Regular Update with Health and Human Services
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Wednesday, December 16
2:30 p.m. Administrative Work Session - could include executive session(s) - Please note later time!
Thursday, December 17
10:00 a.m. Regular Update with Community Justice
Thursday, December 24
Most County Offices will be closed to observe Christmas (unpaid day offi
Friday, December 25
Most County Offices will be closed to observe Christmas
Thursday, December 31
Most County Offices will be closed to observe New Years (unpaid day offi
Friday, Janugr Ll
Most County Offices will be closed to observe New Years
Deschutes County meeting locations are wheelchair accessible.
Deschutes County provides reasonable accommodations for persons with disabilities.
For deaf, hearing impaired or speech disabled, dial 7-1-1 to access the state transfer relay service for TTY.
Please call (541) 388-6571 regarding alternative formats or for further information.
Board of Commissioners' Business Meeting Agenda Monday, October 26, 2009
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