2017-125-Minutes for Meeting April 15,1985 Recorded 3/23/2017Recorded in Deschutes County CJ2017-125
Nancy Blankenship, County Clerk
Commissioners'Journal 03/23/2017 4:16:10 PM
For Recording Stamp Only
Deschutes County Board of Commissioners
Bend, Oregon
DESCHUTES COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
Audio Cassette Recording Titled: Work Session
April 15, 1985, 9:00-11:00 AM.
A meeting of the Board of County Commissioners was held on April 8, 1985.
Commissioners present were Lois Prante, Dick Maudlin and Larry Tuttle. Also
present were County Counsel Rick Isham, County Administrator Mike Maier, and
other staff.
John Anderson and Bill Marlett (?) will speak first; then there will be an update on
the transportation plan, followed by representatives of the Cascade Center.
Topics discussed were the River Task Force meeting. Mr. Anderson said the
workshop will be part of a series of eight workshops. One question to be resolved
is whether the workshops should be open to the general public. They are not
public hearings but should be able to voice any concerns that were not previously
expressed. The Task Force wants information to help them complete their work.
There is the inevitable possibility that some people will come forward just to
emotionalize a concern they might have.
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He put together a statement to be read by Craig Neilson (?) at the opening of the
meeting to lay out the ground rules. This workshop would be the last one in a
series. There would be a four -minute limit for any person to give whatever
information they wish, and the Task Force can ask them questions. People can
also provide input in writing. It is not a public hearing per se. They prefer to limit
it to one session. They will use a kitchen timer.
Ms. Prante stated that she does not want anyone to feel like they did not have an
opportunity to voice their comments. There needs to be some latitude. If
someone has already testified, they should be allowed to speak after those who
have not had an opportunity to do so.
Related to this is there will be a work shop before this one devoted to the hydro
developers. Ms. Prante suggested that participants be asked how much time they
feel they need to adequately present their information. This is the first
opportunity for developers to do this. There needs to be sufficient time to
accommodate them.
Mr. Anderson stated that they will be submitting written information, and their
oral testimony will be basically a summary. The real interaction will occur when
there are questions for the Task Force.
Mr. Maudlin asked if this is for just developers, experts or the public. Mr.
Anderson sees it as just developers who might want to have projects on the
Deschutes. This can be discussed further.
Mr. Anderson said that the other issue that might come up is the residents'
survey, and in particular the contingent value questions that they seem to spend
so much time on. The developer of the Benham Falls project seems to think they
are picking on his project. This is not the case. The reason this has been
referenced so much in the study is that this project has the most information
available on it. He proposed that as far as the survey is concerned, they take out
the reference to Benham Falls and put in Dillon Falls, since that is a potential site
as well. They can make up a hypothetical site there.
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Ms. Prante said she has had calls from irrigation districts expressing concern that
the study appears to be based on Benham Falls, and feel that their projects will be
unfairly judged and impacted. They see this as a concentrated effort on one area.
This is an emotional issue in the community, and need to make a fair decision on
the data that is being gathered. She has concerns if they refer to a specific
project.
Mr. Tuttle said they are trying to set an example on how a certain type of project
should be evaluated, today and in the future. They are not making a decision on
any one project. Ms. Prante stated that there is the perception it is one in
particular, and perception becomes reality to people when they don't
understand.
Mr. Anderson said they should pick out another site that doesn't have a specific
project and use that as a sample site. (There was a lengthy, repetitive discussion
on this issue.)
Mr. Isham said he has two individual service contracts drafted, but they have not
been signed yet by the University people involved in this survey project. The total
cost is $5,666.
Intergovernmental agreement with the City of Bend regarding a community
development block grant, stating that when there are payments on the loan, it
comes back to the County and not the City.
There will be consideration of a partition plat, at Eagle Crest. It was preliminarily
approved some months ago.
They will consider signature of Awbrey Butte sublease with High Lakes
Broadcasting Company.
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There has been a request for a discussion of the 1985-86 annual plan at their next
evening meeting. It is due to the State by May 1.
A variety of appropriations and cash transfers will be addressed.
They will consider a Public Works award for a fuel purchase.
Another item is an Order refunding taxes.
At this time, there was a discussion about the award of bids policy. It appears
that it won't be easy to resolve. The Attorney General may have to handle it.
Mr. Maier said that the Budget Committee meetings for 1985-86, and in particular
those of the Service Districts, are scheduled soon.
Ms. Prante said there has not been a consistent procedure for handling County
expenses in the past. She feels this is needed. She went over some suggestions
with the Board. She wants to pull County credit cards since much of the charges
are for conferences, and these conferences usually give enough lead time that
employees can get the funds from the Treasurer. The miscellaneous things not
paid for in advance can be charged on a person's own card and they can get
reimbursed within ten days.
If there is a situation with an employee who does not have a credit card, they can
advance funds. They will reimburse on an expense basis. The whole attitude of
the country right now regarding government spending and accountability needs
to be considered. They need a very clear and consistent policy.
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(There was a lengthy discussion regarding the reimbursement level, the forms to
be used, and so on.) This will be routed to department heads for comments.
The Board then went into a discussion regarding transportation planning efforts.
Denise McGriff provided some documentation explaining their projects and how
this fits into the comprehensive plan. They started out with a technical advisory
committee that include representatives from each of the jurisdictions, technical
support from State Highways, the Forest Service, Fish & Wildlife, and any other
groups that were interested in participating. There were at least two people from
each of the cities, and County support staff.
They took all existing program and plan elements and went through them
individually, and learned about the cities' priorities. They came up with some
good agreements between jurisdictions regarding definitions for roads, and some
charts on minimum design standards so they are basically compatible. They had
to clarify the schematics so that if a citizen comes in to talk about improving a
road, they know what to expect. The last thing was general criteria to be used if
there is a variance to a road standard. They will not allow someone to come in
and say they can't afford to build the road properly. The variance would have to
do with the slope of the land or other factors.
There are reclassification elements for Redmond and Sisters. They also agreed to
work on a system to update this material on a yearly basis. There has been good
cooperation between all jurisdictions, and in particular from the Forest Service.
She is pleased with the progress they have made on this process. Transportation
needs to be standardized wherever they go.
In Sisters, they just had to change what they were calling the roads so that it is
uniform, like the State Highway and collector roads. They hope to develop a loop
system there eventually, along with their one-way couplet idea. The City has
done a thorough job overall. (There was a lengthy discussion regarding planning
for the future of roads in and around Sisters up to about the year 2000.)
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They have done the same basic process with the City of Redmond and City of
Bend. They started out at the Planning Commission level, held a number of public
hearings and work sessions, and this resulted in a variety reclassification
recommendations. (They referred to maps at this time.) The City of Redmond's
plan is also an access management plan.
Some of the changes made in the Redmond map designation are north -south
arterials, with an alternate route to be established for Highway 97. It would likely
follow Canal and branch off to E. 9th Street. Helmholtz and 27th would be
designated as north -south arterials as well. And east -west would be a canyon
crossing at Maple. Those would be the main framework of the road system, with
an evenly spread collector system between that. Some designations were
removed from Canyon Drive and 19th Street as being too close, and others were
too distant. They want to keep the east -west arterial system down to a minimum
with canyon crossings.
They had two people show up regarding the Maple crossing. They are not sure if
this crossing will happen, although it has been discussed a great deal. The Buckey
report was the basis to start, with the canyon crossing plan. Bob McWilliams
suggested designations for local service streets along Highway 97 that represent
frontage roads in the Highway 97 access plan. These are roads that have been
identified as needed to take some of the access problems off the highway. Also
included is some of the road system that will be developed in the industrial zone.
(There was a long discussion about local service streets and the designation on
the plan.)
The City Council and Planning Commission felt they did not want to have Highway
97 come into the same kind of problems that have happened with 3rd Street in
Bend. They could do this by implementing a program of restricted access along
the highway, by developing frontage road, and encouraging or requiring wherever
possible access from cross streets, and developing standards for distance
between curb cuts. Originally there was an access report that said for the whole
highway, this is where curb cuts will be allowed and where they won't. Some
would be put in and others would be removed.
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It was the feeling at the committee level that this was an unrealistic approach. As
land use, speed limits and zoning change, this would impact access locations. The
new plan developed more standards in this regard. (A long discussion took place
regarding these proposed standards.)
The City controls access on the highway within the city limits. The State is still in
the process of issuing an access permit, but relinquished this responsibility to the
City. The State controls this outside city limits.
All property owners were notified of this proposed plan, but there was not a lot of
opposition. It still needs to go to the City Council with the transportation plan, as
a complete proposal. They have had a work session on it.
As road designations leave the city limits and UGB, they need to conform to what
the County wants to do. The same applies to the access plan.
There was a discussion about a health, sports and convention center. They feel
good about the presentations made so far and the publicity given. They are
cautiously optimistic about the project. The concept was presented to the County
and the City of Bend, the Redmond Chamber of Commerce, CORA, the Bend
Chamber of Commerce and others. The Redmond City Council will be updated
this week.
They have some press interest and positive feedback. It's been tried before but it
needs another hard look. There was some confusion about there being concrete
ideas. There are concepts out there about multi-purpose facilities. The end
product will be important, but this is the value of the study. It needs to be
economically feasible.
Seaside has had success with its project. It has been a positive thing for 12 years.
In Eugene, a single -purpose center didn't work so well. It needs to be someplace
in the middle.
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The medical aspect of the use is needed because the timing seems to be correct.
They still believe this is proper, but it does not limit the other potential uses. It
might be possible to tie in an education, research and development side to the
convention center idea. Businesses could partake in this as well. At this point,
they don't know what it would look like or where it would be located.
One major consideration is that Mt. Bachelor is very interested in expansion and
bringing groups in here, and will put in some money towards the study in good
faith. A facility could adjoin an existing facility like a motel/hotel complex, or
perhaps stand alone. Or it could be multi-purpose and be someplace where
people go to meet, accessible in a variety of ways.
The study would have to consider the assets in the area, including the airport and
major shopping centers, along with hotel/motel accommodations and parks and
recreation facilities. There is a great deal of interest in this right now, and they
should continue this momentum. It's a new idea and monumental for this area.
But it is consistent with the things that they are trying to promote here.
There are organizations that can conduct this study, but it would cost $20,000 or
more. There seems to be enough interest from those who want to take a role in
this. They are meeting further with members of CORA to let them know this is
not an attempt to take away their business or fundraising. The Board could
consider a matching grant program. It might explore an economic development
grant program. (There was a long discussion regarding CORA's reaction and how
to reassure that group.) This effort would try to address the things that cannot be
done today. Everyone will benefit. They hope to attract the interest of the U.S.
Olympic Committee for training and events. (The group then discussed the
schedule for fundraising, the study and the potential results.)
The Board said that if the group is asking the County for a specific amount of
money, they need to let the Board know so it could perhaps be included in the
next budget. If the Board is supportive, it will make it easier for the group to get
funds from others. Mr. Maier stated they need to know soon since budget
meetings start in May. There can't be a firm commitment until the budget is
reviewed and approved.
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The Board would like to see the upper limit for the County's contribution no
higher than $5,000. It could get the ball rolling. The process would likely take
about three years.
It was noted that the Seaside Convention Center is booked all of the time. This
one could be just as successful, with all this area has to offer.
1 certify that the above is a true and accurate record of a meeting, as reproduced from two
cassette tapes identified as Minutes of a Work Session of the Deschutes County Board of
Commissioners, held on April 15, 1985. This record was completed subsequent to the presiding
Deschutes County Board of Commissioners' tenure.
Bonnie Baker
For the Board of County Commissioners
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