2017-628-Minutes for Meeting May 17,1996 Recorded 9/21/2017Recorded in Deschutes County CJ2017-628
Nancy Blankenship, County Clerk
Commissioners' Journal 09/21/2017 3:32:19 PM
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Deschutes County Board of Commissioners
Bend, Oregon
DESCHUTES COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
Audio Cassette Recording Titled: WORK SESSION WITH THE SOLID WASTE
DEPARTMENT
May 17, 1996; 10:00-11:30 AM.
A meeting of the Board of County Commissioners was held on May 17, 1996.
Commissioners present were Nancy Pope Schlangen, Bob Nipper and Barry
Slaughter. Also in attendance were Rick Isham, County Counsel; County
Administrator Mike Maier; the media, other staff and a few citizens.
This was a special meeting with the Solid Waste Department.
Director Al Driver came before the Board. He said there is a joint meeting on this
issue with the City of Bend Council next week. He hopes this meeting will set the
tone for that one.
The meeting is to talk about the financial implications of the plan to operation,
processing and marketing of recyclable materials. Several documents have been
prepared by various County departments. The current operator, CRT, indicated it
needs additional funding to continue its work.
Transcription of Audio Recording of a Work Session with the Solid Waste Department
May 17, 1996 Page 1 of 4
The consensus seems to be that the County does not have sufficient information
from the recycling company to advise the Board one way or the other. They
cannot recommend to the Board whether it is appropriate to provide financial
assistance for the program.
There is an opinion that the group look for other funding sources than the County
or the city. These could be broad sector funding, grants or other sources. No one
seems to know if there have been any efforts undertaken in this regard.
One option is for the County to assume all responsibility for the recycling center,
as was discussed about a year ago. This would mean an operations agreement
with CRT (Conservation for Central Oregon). He went into some detail on this
idea.
Another option is for the County to modify its ordinance to require all materials
be submitted to the center without reimbursement. They are not sure if this
could be called flow control, and whether it is legal. Ownership is the big
question with this.
The other option is to leave things as they are, and if CRT can't make it, the
County closes the door and relinquishes the license. Bend Garbage has the first
right of refusal. There are some mandated recycling items.
However, all the parties involved could sit down and talk about it more, and
develop a profit margin index that would float with the retail prices in the real
world. There would be a bottom number than they would not be allowed to go
below.
Ms. Schlangen asked how this would affect the items that the self -haulers bring
in. Mr. Driver gave a long explanation of this. There is no charge but there is a
cost for operations. Some items have value while other items don't, and this
changes all the time.
There was a lengthy discussion about operating on a margin. It should be high
enough to cover costs that take into account how the markets are operating
overall.
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May 17, 1996 Page 2 of 4
Mr. Slaughter says he is a self -hauler, and doesn't know why this appears to be so
complicated.
Mr. Driver said the departments involved in the study all agree that they do not
have enough information to make a recommendation to the Board. Ms.
Schlangen said that she is concerned about the potential legal ramifications of
this issue.
She also noted that if the County decides to take it over, that it seems that no
plans have been developed as to how this would take place. Mr. Driver said if it
was up to him, he doesn't really want to take this over. He feels it is better off in
the private sector. Most counties leave this in the hands of the private sector.
Some items are mandated as well.
A lengthy, heated discussion of how the operation is now and should be handled
then took place.
Commissioner Schlangen is concerned about the program going backwards if this
is not handled properly.
Mr. Nipper is concerned that the income statements don't correlate well, and he
would like to see an audit or similar work done to find out what is really going on
with CRT. He thinks that they do not need to hire someone to do this; that Marty
Wynne, as Finance Director, should be in charge and is qualified to do whatever it
takes.
Mr. Maier said that Mr. Wynne was hired as Finance Director, but not as a
financial auditor for the Solid Waste recycling issue. Mr. Slaughter feels that this
should be done by an impartial and independent auditor. Mr. Wynne said he
needs some more questions answered before he can say that an outside audit is
necessary.
Mr. Isham stated that they might need to hire some outside legal help, especially
when it comes to determining what work is mandated. Mr. Driver feels that this
aspect is already pretty clear.
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May 17, 1996 Page 3 of 4
Ms. Schlangen observed that this group has made recycling very visible to the
community, which wants to recycle. As a nonprofit, they should be the best
qualified to run this operation.
The Board will leave it up to Mr. Wynne to decide which direction might be the
best way to go regarding additional help. There can be no decision until more
work is done.
I certify that the above is a true and accurate record of a meeting, as reproduced from a
cassette tape identified as Minutes of a Meeting of the Deschutes County Board of
Commissioners, held on May 17, 1996. This record was completed subsequent to the presiding
Deschutes County Board of Commissioners' tenure.
1/L
Bonnie Baker
For the Board of County Commissioners
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