2018-77-Minutes for Meeting December 27,2017 Recorded 3/5/2018Recorded in Deschutes County
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Deschutes County Board of Commissioners
1300 NW Wall St., Bend, OR 97703-1960
(541) 388-6570 - Fax (541) 385-3202 - www.deschutes.org
MINUTES OF WORK SESSION
DESCHUTES COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
Allen Conference Room
Wednesday, December 27, 2017
Present were Commissioners Tammy Baney, Anthony DeBone and Phil Henderson. Also present
were Tom Anderson, County Administrator; Erik Kropp, Deputy County Administrator; David
Doyle, County Counsel; Christopher Ogren, Administrative Intern; and Laura Skundrick, Board
Assistant Secretary. Several citizens and one representative of the media were in attendance.
CALL TO ORDER: Chair Baney opened the meeting at 3:22 p.m.
FROM BUSINESS MEETING:
Consideration of Board Signature of Document No. 2017-773, Decision Related to Marijuana
Production and Processing Facility, Evolution Concepts:
Cynthia Smidt, Community Development Department presented the revised the document as
requested by the Board during the morning business meeting.
HENDERSON:
DEBONE:
Move approval of findings for the marijuana grow and processing
application, document #2017-773.
Second.
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VOTE: HENDERSON: Yes.
DEBONE: Yes.
BANEY: Chair votes yes. Motion Carried
Mosaic Medical Lease:
DeAnn Carr, Health Services Deputy Director, explained this opportunity to expand the
Courtney clinic would bring physical and mental health services to a broader population.
Mosaic Medical would bring two primary care physicians to the clinic, along with their ancillary
staff, with potential to add one additional physician as demand increased. The currently unused
areas in the facility would provide Mosaic staff with nine exam rooms, which fits the standard
ratio of three rooms per doctor.
This is a long term project which will be more expansive than the Certified Community
Behavioral Health Clinic (CCBHC) requirement of offering 20 hours of physical care on site. This
partnership would help Health Services to meet new Quality Improvement Measures (QIM's) in
2018, for which the value can be estimated around $100,000, which is money that goes back
into the community for these services. Additionally, the goal is to manage this CCO-capitated
population within the community, a population that needs help and support, which aligns with
the county mission.
Ms. Carr provided an overview of Deschutes County's locations and services offered.
Commissioner Henderson asked what process this opportunity was vetted through. Ms. Carr
replied that an RFP was not required for this program, and given that a Federally Qualified
Health Center (FQHC) was needed, Mosaic Medical was the only vendor able to provide that.
Commissioner Henderson expressed concern that others might have been interested in
providing these services. Ms. Carr stated that Mosaic is the only FQHC in Bend, and only one
other in the area, located in La Pine. She added if there were other FQHC's available, a process
would have been completed to vet the best match. Not only is process to become an FQHC
rather difficult, but they are no longer allocating FQHC's— so another provider could not have
possibly provided these services. An FQHC is needed because they have the ability to receive
wrap payments, which allows them to provide a broader scope of services to a broader group
of individuals. Mosaic can and does take anyone as a patient, regardless of variables such as
insurance, Medicare, or income.
Commissioner DeBone asked about underutilization of rooms. Ms. Carr replied that this will be
a full Mosaic Medical clinic, with the goal of getting people through those front doors who may
not already be patients of ours but could benefit from our services. Chair Baney further
explained that there are currently individuals who receive physical treatment but do not get
their mental health needs met and vice versa, noting that the private sector doesn't typically
embrace this population, which created a shortage in care. Ms. Carr elaborated that this is a
way to provide whole -person care in one place.
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Commissioner Henderson asked whether others know this is occurring. Chair Baney confirmed
that yes, there is currently a great push for integration. Commissioner DeBone asked where the
requirement for the FQHC maps from. Ms. Carr replied it maps to the Deschutes County facility
as a CCHBC.
Commissioner Henderson expressed concern that the clinic will make money and could pay
rent, and he wants to ensure a fair bargain is negotiated for the county. Ms. Carr assured the
board that Mosaic is not turning a profit from these services, and she believes this arrangement
is fair. Not only is Mosaic the only FQHC, but Deschutes County receives great benefit from this
partnership and Mosaic has the ability to provide a great range of services. Commissioner
Henderson requested the percentage of Mosaic services that handles ordinary medical needs
and illnesses and what percentage pertains to mental health.
Commissioner Henderson requested the commercial price of the space. Mr. Lewis replied an
estimated $5,000-6,000/month. Commissioner Henderson stated he would like to do some
research, and will send his list of questions to Ms. Carr for her assistance in that research. He
would like clarification before he is prepared to approve this agreement. Commissioner DeBone
suggested other's perspectives would also be helpful, such as others from Health Services, the
private industry, and the Emergency Services industry.
Commissioner DeBone asked the effective date of this program. Ms. Carr replied by the end of
March. Chair Baney summarized that the commissioners will send questions to Ms. Carr for
follow up, and a CCO update will be provided at a future work session.
ACTION ITEMS
1. Discussion: Oregon Department of Agriculture Regulation of Marijuana and Hemp -
Nick Lelack, Community Development Director
This item was moved to an unknown future date in January, due to the Oregon
Department of Agriculture being unable to attend today in-person.
2. Discussion on Possible Marijuana Appeals
This item was removed from the agenda.
EXECUTIVE SESSION: At the time of 4:36pm, the Board went into Executive Session under ORS
192.660(2)(d) Labor Negotiation and ORS 192.600(2)(h) Litigation. The Board came out of
Executive Session at 5:27pm.
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OTHER ITEMS:
House Bill 4069 — Association of Oregon Counties Request:
The commissioners discussed a request from the Association of Oregon Counties (AOC) for a bill
established for the short session, requiring the state lottery to distribute the full 2.5% without
delay. Commissioners discussed the history behind the lottery and allocations, and agreed in
support.
2018 Chair and Vice -Chair:
Commissioners discussed the history of rotating positions of Chair and Vice -Chair.
Commissioner Henderson stated his desire to be Board Chair. The commissioners discussed
Chair responsibilities and Chair Baney proposed that Vice -Chair DeBone become Chair for 2018.
Commissioner DeBone agreed and would be honored to serve as chair.
BANEY: Move approval.
HENDERSON: Second.
VOTE: DEBONE: Yes.
HENDERSON: Yes.
BANEY: Chair votes yes. Motion Carried
Commissioner DeBone nominated Commissioner Henderson as Vice Chair.
DEBONE: Move approval.
HENDERSON: Second.
VOTE: DEBONE: Yes.
HENDERSON: Yes.
BANEY: Chair votes yes. Motion Carried
ADJOURN: Being no further discussion, the meeting adjourned at 5:51pm.
SIGNATURE PAGE TO FOLLOW.
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Deschutes County Board of Commissioners
1300 NW Wall St, Bend, OR 97703
(541) 388-6570 — Fax (541) 385-3202 — https://www.deschutes.org/
WORK SESSION AGENDA
DESCHUTES COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
1:30 PM, WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 27, 2017
Allen Conference Room - Deschutes Services Building, 2ND Floor — 1300 NW Wall Street — Bend
Pursuant to ORS 192.640, this agenda includes a list of the principal subjects anticipated to be addressed at the
meeting. This notice does not limit the ability of the Board to address additional subjects. Meetings are subject to
cancellation without notice. This meeting is open to the public and interested citizens are invited to attend.
Work Sessions allow the Board to discuss items in a less formal setting. Citizen comment is not allowed,
although it may be permitted at the Board's discretion. If allowed, citizen comments regarding matters that are or
have been the subject of a public hearing process will NOT be included in the official record of that hearing. Work
Sessions are not normally video or audio recorded, but written minutes are taken for the record.
CALL TO ORDER
ACTION ITEMS
1. Discussion: Oregon Department of Agriculture Regulation of Marijuana and Hemp - Nick
Lelack, Community Development Director
2. Discussion on Possible Marijuana Appeals
EXECUTIVE SESSION
Executive Session under ORS 192.660 (2) (d) Labor Negotiation and ORS 192.600 (2) h)
Litigation
At any time during the meeting, an executive session could be called to address issues relating to ORS
192.660(2)(e), real property negotiations; ORS 192.660(2)(h), litigation; ORS 192.660(2)(d), labor
negotiations; ORS 192.660(2)(b), personnel issues; or other executive session categories.
Executive sessions are closed to the public; however, with few exceptions and under specific
guidelines, are open to the media.
Board of Commissioners Work Session Agenda
Wednesday, December 27, 2017 Page 1 of 2
OTHER ITEMS
These can be any items not included on the agenda that the Commissioners wish to discuss as part of
the meeting, pursuant to ORS 192.640.
ADJOURN
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Deschutes County Board of Commissioners
1300 NW Wall St, Bend, OR 97703
(541) 388-6570 — Fax (541) 385-3202 — https://www.deschutes.org/
AGENDA REQUEST & STAFF REPORT
For Board of Commissioners Work Session of December 27, 2017
DATE: December 22, 2017
FROM: Nick Lelack, Community Development, 541-385-1708
TITLE OF AGENDA ITEM:
Discussion: Oregon Department of Agriculture Regulation of Marijuana and Hemp
ATTENDANCE: Nick Lelack, AICP, CDD Director; Sunny Jones, Oregon Department of
Agriculture Cannabis Policy Coordinator; Jim Johnson, Oregon Department of Agriculture
Land Use and Water Planning Coordinator
SUMMARY: In October, Deschutes County initiated a review of its marijuana regulations
which were adopted a year earlier in 2016. As part of this review, the Board requested
meetings with several agencies including the Oregon Department of Agriculture (ODA). The
meeting provides an opportunity for the Board to discuss the responsibilities of ODA for
regulating marijuana (or cannabis) and hemp.
Community Development Department
Planning Division Building Safety Division Environmental Soils Division
P.O. Box 6005 117 NW Lafayette Avenue Bend, Oregon 97706-6405
(541) 388-6575 Fax (541) 385-1764
http://www.deschutes.org/cd
MEMORANDUM
TO: Deschutes County Board of Commissioners
FROM: Nick Lelack, AICP, Director
DATE: December 22, 2017
SUBJECT: Work Session: Oregon Department of Agriculture / Marijuana Regulations
I. PURPOSE
The Board of County Commissioners (Board) on December 27 is conducting a work session with representatives
of the Oregon Department of Agriculture (ODA), including Sunny Jones, Cannabis Policy Coordinator, and Jim
Johnson, Land Use and Water Planning Coordinator. The meeting provides an opportunity for the Board to
discuss the agency's responsibilities for regulating marijuana (or cannabis) and hemp. Attached are an overview
of their regulations.
II. OVERVIEW
In October, Deschutes County initiated a review of its marijuana regulations which were adopted a year earlier in
2016. To assess their effectiveness of regulating impacts from marijuana production, processing, wholesale, and
retail operations in rural Deschutes County, the Board is seeking feedback from stakeholder, residents, and
interested parties. As part of this review, the Board requested meetings with several agencies.
In addition to ODA, work sessions are scheduled with:
• Oregon Water Resources Department and local irrigation districts on January 10, 2018;
• Oregon Liquor Control Commission on January 29, 2018; and
• Deschutes County Sherriff's Office is pending
Attachments:
ODA Cannabis Handout
ODA Cannabis Webpage
ODA Industrial Hemp Webpage
Quality Services Performed Tvith Pride
OREGON CANNABIS
Cultivate your business with the Oregon Department of Agriculture
Applying pesticides?
• The label is the law
• Consult the guidelist
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The Oregon Department of Agriculture (ODA) administers many programs that affect
agriculture producers and processors. These programs could apply to your cannabis business.
Oregon More info online: bit.do/CannabisODA
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Oregon Department of Agriculture: Cannabis (marijuana)
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Oregon Department of Agriculture / Oregon Agriculture / Cannabis (marijuana)
Cannabis (marijuana)
Learn About Oregon
Agriculture
Agricultural Statistics
Laws and Rules
New and Small
Farms
Grants, Loans, and
Technical Assistance
Farm Internships
Tractor Training
Drought and Disaster
Resources
Oregon Agricultural
Boards and
Commissions
Agriculture
Organizations
Celebrate Oregon
Agriculture
Food Safety
Modernization Act
Maps
The Oregon Department of Agriculture (ODA) administers
many programs that affect agriculture producers and
processors. These programs could also affect cannabis
production, processing, wholesale, and retail activities.
The Oregon Health Authority and the Oregon Liquor Control
Commission are the lead agencies for medical and recreational
marijuana, respectively. Due to ODA's authorities, ODA
is associated with many of the elements related to cannabis.
This page will continue to be updated as new information is
received.
Agricultural water quality: Protecting Oregon's
waterways
The Oregon Department of Agriculture is responsible for
developing plans to prevent and control water pollution from
agricultural activities and soil erosion on rural lands.
Issues related to agriculture that can negatively impact water
quality include:
• Sediment from eroding croplands, pasture lands, and
stream banks
• Erosion and runoff from farm roads
• Runoff of pesticides or nutrients from fertilizers
• Runoff of nutrients and bacteria from animal manure
• Cannabis and agricultural water quality handout )-
Agricultural lands can protect and improve water quality. For
example, healthy streamside vegetation prevents runoff from
excessive sediment and stabilizes stream banks.
Each region of the state has its own unique way to protect
Oregon's waterways. Growing cannabis is an agricultural
activity. For more information about cannabis and water
quality, visit the Agricultural Water Quality Program.
Food safety
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Contacts
Oregon Department of
Agriculture marijuana
questions:
marijuana@oda. state. or. us [Lii
Oregon Liquor Control
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Oregon Health Authority
medical marijuana questions:
medmj.dispensaries@state.or.us Li
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Industrial hemp
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Cannabis info email
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Oregon Department of Agriculture: Cannabis (marijuana)
In general, ODA is responsible for regulating the production,
processing, and distribution of food products in the state of
Oregon.
• Cannabinoid edibles must be manufactured according to
the same standards of that of traditional foods, with the
exception of packaging and labeling requirements that
were established by HB 3400.
• A cannabis -processing license is required, which is not
provided by ODA. However, ODA can provide on-site
consultation assistance, review site plans, or issue a food
safety license.
• ODA will not be able to issue a home (domestic) food
safety license for the manufacturing of cannabinoid
edibles.
• Cannabis and food safety licensing handout
If you are considering manufacturing a cannabinoid
edible, visit the Food Safety Program.
Pesticides: What should I know before I use a
product?
With respect to pesticide use, the pesticide label is the law.
• There are no pesticides specifically labeled for the
production of marijuana, therefore ODA is developing
criteria to help cultivators identify pesticide products that
may be used for the production of Oregon cannabis. ODA
has compiled a guidance list of pesticide products that
satisfy the criteria.
• Pesticide labels contain both mandatory and advisory
statements in order to provide protection for the
pesticide user. Worker safety requirements can differ
between an indoor grow and an outdoor grow. Following
pesticide label instructions is not only the law but reduces
the risk of unintended consequences.
• Only general use pesticides may be allowed for cannabis,
therefore a pesticide applicator license is not required as
long as the pesticide application is made to your own
cannabis crop. If you hire an individual or a business to
make a pesticide application to your crop, the applicator
and business must be appropriately licensed by ODA.
For more information about pesticide products and licensing,
visit the Pesticide and Fertilizer Program.
Scales: What kind of scale do I need?
Selling marijuana items, whether the sale is between a grower
and a processor or a retailer and a customer, must take place
using an ODA licensed commercial scale. All points of a
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commercial transaction must take place on a licensed
commercial scale.
It is important to remember that not any scale will work.
• The scale must be National Type Evaluation Program
(NTEP) approved.
• The size of the transaction will also dictate the capacity of
the scale needed. For example, a scale used to sell large
batches of flower to a wholesaler may not be appropriate
for selling a small amount of flower to a retail customer.
• Cannabis and commercial scale licensing handout 1L
For more information about ODA licensed commercial scales,
visit the Weights and Measures Program.
Resources
Business Readiness Guidebook for Oregon
Recreational Marijuana Operations
This document is intended for establishing OLCC licensed
recreational marijuana businesses.
Business Readiness Guidebook a�
Cannabis & Food Safety Information
Information on food safety licenses and cannabis.
Cannabis and food safety license handout J
Cannabis & Water Quality Information
Cannabis and water quality handout ,r
Cannabis & Weights and Measures
Information
Cannabis and commercial scales handout
Cannabis email subscription
Sign up to receive email when new information is available
from ODA on cannabis.
Subscribe
Cannabis rules & regulations workshop
materials
From the Oregon Farm Bureau and Oregon Association of
Nurseries workshop held October 14, 2015.
Website
Oregon Cannabis: Cultivate Your Business
with ODA
ODA administers many programs that affect agriculture
producers and processors. These programs could apply to
your cannabis business.
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The Oregon Department of Agriculture (ODA) is now
accepting applications for the 2017 annual registration to grow
and handle industrial hemp. We will begin accepting
applications for the 2018 annual registration in mid-
November.
A registration is needed for growing or handling industrial
hemp. An additional registration is needed for those wishing
to produce or handle agricultural hemp seed.
• Grower registration fee: $1,300
• Handler registration fee: $1,300
• Agricultural hemp seed production registration fee: $120
o The agricultural hemp seed production registration
must accompany either a grower or handler
registration.
Growers
Industrial hemp growers registration
application (2018)
Use this application to apply for growing industrial hemp and
handling agricultural hemp seed.
Registration application for growing industrial hemp
Industrial hemp registration change request
form
Use this form to revise information that was initially reported
on your industrial hemp registration.
Change request form )1,.
Industrial hemp sample request for growers
Use this form to request an official sampling from the ODA or
an accredited laboratory.
Sampling request for industrial hemp ,
Production information: Insects and mites
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Contact
Market Access and
Certification
635 Capitol St. NE
Salem, OR 97301
Phone: 503-986-4620
For more information:
industrial-
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Ron Pence
Operations Manager
Commodity Inspection
rpence@oda.state.or.us h.
Phone: 503-986-4557
More info from ODA
Find issued hemp
licenses
Cannabis (marijuana)
information
Cannabis and pesticides
information
Oregon Department of Agriculture: Industrial Hemp
associated with hemp
Info from Colorado State University on all of the "bugs"
(insects, spiders, mites, etc.) that might be found in a hemp
field.
Hemp insects identification website
Handlers
Industrial hemp handlers registration
application (2018)
Registration application for handling industrial hemp ),
Laboratories
ORELAP (Oregon Environmental Laboratory Accreditation
Program) accredited laboratories who have completed training
with ODA:
• Accu Labs
• Cascadia Labs
• ChemHistory
• CS Laboratories
• Evio Laboratories
• Green Leaf Lab
• Iron Laboratories
• Juniper Analytics
• MRX Labs
• OG Analytical
• Pixis Labs
• Rose City Labs
• SC Laboratories Oregon LLC
• Synergistic Pesticide Laboratory
The Oregon Health Authority's full list of ORELAP accredited
labs
Industrial hemp pre -harvest testing: Sampling
protocol & process
All sampling must be performed by personnel employed by a
laboratory or ODA.
Industrial hemp sampling protocol
Industrial hemp on-site sampling form ;44
Industrial hemp pre -harvest testing: Testing
protocol
All testing must be performed by personnel employed by a
laboratory or ODA.
Industrial hemp testing protocol ,}
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Oregon Department of Agriculture: Industrial Hemp
Industrial hemp pre -harvest: THC report
This form is for laboratory use for reporting total
Tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) in pre -harvest tests of industrial
hemp.
Industrial hemp pre -harvest THC report ,L
Test results notification form for industrial
hemp
Test results notification form s`
Laws and rules
Chapter Law 71 - Updated in 2016 legislative
session
Replaces ORS 571.300 - 571.315 Industrial Hemp Growers
and Handlers
Chapter Law 71 - relating to industrial hemp ),
Oregon Administrative Rules - Division 48:
Industrial Hemp
OAR Division 48, 603-048 ).
Testing rules for industrial hemp
There is a reporting requirement for failed tests on
consumable commodities or products by a laboratory.
Testing rules are based on requirements provided by the
Oregon Health Authority (OHA).
OAR 333-007 Marijuana Labeling, Concentration Limits, and
Testing
OAR 333-064 Accreditation of Laboratories
Industrial Hemp Rules Advisory Committee
(RAC)
The Industrial Hemp Rules Advisory Committee is comprised
of varied industry experts, depending on the topic of focus, to
help develop rule changes. Please contact ODA if you have
additional questions regarding this committee, the members,
and their work.
• Industrial Hemp RAC meeting minutes from August 8,
2016
Industrial hemp email list
Register to receive email correspondence regarding industrial
hemp industry implementation and regulation.
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