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MINUTES
DESCHUTES COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION
DESCHUTES SERVICES CENTER
1300 NW WALL STREET, BEND, OREGON, 97701
MAY 13, 2010 - 5:30 P.M.
I. CALL TO ORDER
Meeting was called to order at 5:30 p.m. by Chair Chris Brown. Members present were
Vice Chair Ed Criss, Merle Irvine, Keith Cyrus, Todd Turner, Richard Klyce and new
Commissioner James Powell. Staff present were Nick Lelack, Planning Director; Peter
Russell, Senior Transportation Planner; and Sher Buckner, Administrative Secretary.
II. PUBLIC COMMENTS
None.
III. PUBLIC HEARING (continued): Terrebonne Community Plan — Staff.
Commissioner Turner mentioned that his firm is working on the school addition, but he
does not feel this will be a conflict of interest. Chair Brown and Nick Lelack discussed
procedures.
Public Testimony:
Billy Hardin spoke about the difficulty of excavation in the area, both for commercial and
residential interests. The area is not favorable for increased population density or
intensive commercial use.
Tom Gelker reiterated that the feeling is strong in Terrebonne, with citizens not wanting
any changes in zoning. They cannot afford the cleanup costs from developers after they
leave, either.
Larry Wiehr said that during the 1997 period Comp Plan review, residents of Circle C
submitted a request, which was granted, to be removed from the boundaries. Since 1997,
no additional properties have been annexed into the Terrebonne community. There could
be light industrial and commercial. At this time no use is planned, but since this plan is for
20 years, it could be a possibility.
Quality Services Performed with Pride
Steve Henderson discussed supporting the community plan and people who like the area
the way it is. There is no sewer system, and they are not interested in any expansion that
would cost money. Circle C opted out because of one man who ramroded it through.
Today may be different situation. Boundaries are for zoning purposes and do not exclude
anyone who lives outside the community. He also asked if the Commissioners are
interested in the rules as they work, or interested solely in individual property rights?
Some people have participated since the beginning, made suggestions, made
recommendations that some land be zoned commercial, etc., but they do not want to see
properties divided into small lots.
Steve Myrin spoke about the clinic he built in 1995, with a plan to zone the property as
commercial eventually. He did not build a commercial building on property that he did not
intend to have as commercial, and it has been used that way for 30 years. It is next to an
unused post office that has been vacant for 15 years. He has been told he is using the
property legally now, but it is not fair that he has to sell his clinic as a house or conforming
use in a residential area when he retires. Commissioner Klyce asked what happened and
why the property was not rezoned. Steve said there were several community meetings
during which it was mapped to be changed, but at a final closed door meeting it was
decided to keep it residential.
Gerry Soto said she represents herself and 10-12 of her neighbors. They want things to
remain exactly as they are. There are enough commercial sites and also enough vacant
residential sites without adding more. When the present vacant lots are filled, capacity will
already be stretched. They choose to live very simply and would like to remain that way.
They do not have city values and choose to live individual lives. When developers want to
make a profit and meet up with a community that wants to keep things the same, the
developers need to look elsewhere and leave people free to live their lives.
Jerry Sherman agreed with Gerry Soto. The people who live in Terrebonne like it the way
it is. The vet clinic where Steve Myrin is located should be changed to commercial zoning,
but there are already buildable lots for others who wish to do so. There are 29 lots for sale
on their own internal sewer system - there are plenty of buildable lots available.
Mike Walker submitted a petition for zoning on the west side of Highway 97. It says that a
described area is viable for commercial properties and shows that the west side is much
more desirable for septic systems. Peter Gutowsky sent him a map of undeveloped lots in
Terrebonne. Mike spoke about the difference between buildable lots versus those that are
just undeveloped. He started checking on the shaded areas of the map, and there are
houses and septic systems on many of the lots. There are a total of 48 lots in the
Terrebonne area to build on. The map is not accurately indicating what is and what is not
available. Peter's notes indicate lots that are not buildable. The school district just
expanded and received DEQ approval for septic last week. Commissioner Klyce
submitted another map and had questions about the map Peter had provided.
Kay Walters represented herself and other residents — the people have already spoken.
We have had many meetings and people do not understand why they need to go to
another meeting. The County is going to make the decision it wants to — but she feels it is
still important to state an opinion. She hopes that the Commissioners will take people's
opinions very seriously. They know that the Commissioners are volunteers, but people will
be talking to those who are elected. They are not ready at this time to have the burden
that developers are trying to put on them. The developers do not live there. They want to
sell the property, do what they want and leave. People are sick and tired of their counties
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being run by money for construction and development. There is one slumlord right now
who is not taking care of his septic system. He told his renter he will not do anything about
it, and it is a major health issue.
Mike McFarlane spoke about a piece of property he purchased. His kids went to
Terrebonne schools, and he did not know he would be unable to sell the property. He
does not want to do anything right now but may want to in ten years. There are many
ways to get water, if people are concerned about that. There are small lots around him
and he's tired of everyone telling him they like his big open space. He wants to sell it
sometime.
George Ortman, a board member of the Circle C water district, said they opted years ago
to be out of the Terrebonne community. Their main concern for their water district is to
protect this asset. If Terrebonne residents choose to expand, it is not Circle C's concern,
but they want to protect their water. They have a series of four wells all hooked into one
system. Most are in the 200-240 foot range. One well which was drilled three years ago
went 400 feet and is tapped into a good aquifer, but the water table in their other wells has
dropped. At this time they are only using two wells with two backups.
Dennis Hanson testified in opposition to the development. They fear that development is a
real threat to ruralization.
Dave Molony said he understood the Planning Commission can set policy for this County,
and the Commissioners are appointed to carry out the wishes of the County. He sees the
planning staff, particularly Peter Gutowsky, as anti -growth. He spoke about the school
having its own onsite septic system and about the cross -traffic situation which creates a
problem. There is a need for development on both sides — the west side is not all
residential, although that is the picture that has been painted. The water district, Christian
center, fire station and school are there.
Chair Brown spoke about whether the record could be closed/deliberations held and asked
the other Commissioners for their opinions. Commissioner Turner said he was
comfortable closing oral testimony and leaving written open for some time to allow people
to submit comments. Dr. Powell deferred to the other Commissioners as it was his first
meeting. Vice Chair Criss agreed with Commissioner Turner. Some commercial and
some development could be allowed — what does the community want? He would like to
hear from some people who are in the middle of the road and others in the community.
Commissioners Cyrus, Irvine and Klyce agreed.
Motion: Commissioner Klyce motioned to close the public testimony and leave the written
open until May 20. Seconded by Commissioner Irvine. Motion passed unanimously.
Nick mentioned that the Commissioners could choose to deliberate at the end of May or at
the meeting in June. This body makes a recommendation to the Board, so there will also
be other meetings.
IV. DISCUSSION: Deschutes Junction Community Plan — Peter Russell, Senior
Transportation Planner.
Peter summarized the process, community input received to date, and the future schedule.
Most residents do not think there is a need for a community plan, although there is
disagreement about the level of development or whether there should be any development
at all. We are looking at the policies in the Comprehensive Plan. Commissioner Turner
asked if there was any identification of boundaries back when Deschutes Junction was
designated as a rural service center. Peter said that Terri Payne had looked for some
maps; the state changed the definitions in the 1990s and Deschutes Junction did not fit
the definition of an unincorporated community. Chair Brown mentioned that in 1979, when
Deschutes Junction was examined by the Board for zoning, the bottom half of the purple
area is now there solely because he testified about it. He held an option on the property
from COI and wanted to protect the industrial status. He has not had any interest in it
since 1980 or 1981, so he does not consider it a conflict.
Peter spoke about the specific policies on Page 4 of the Memo to the Commissioners.
Chair Brown mentioned the 19th Street discussions and the lack of information regarding
Juniper Ridge. Is there any new information? Peter said there is nothing new except talk
about a soccer field land use application which we have not seen yet. Commissioner
Turner asked about commercial activities north of Deschutes Junction in the ag zone.
Peter said he understands they are pre-existing nonconforming uses. Commissioner
Powell said he did not think there was a map produced in the original plan for Deschutes
Junction, as there was for the other service centers. There have been discussions of
changes along the old Deschutes Market Road to link Redmond to Bend. Is there
anything going on with that? Both Redmond and Bend are pushing growth toward
Deschutes Junction. He wonders about the impact of those changes.
Peter also said hearings have been held to add 19th Street, which has been approved in
concept but denied as to the specific alignment by the Planning Commission. The Board
has approved it. A second reading is coming up which would take effect in 90 days, if it is
not appealed to LUBA. Commissioner. Powell asked if there would be any changes in the
proposed Plan amendments if 19th Street and Juniper Ridge did or did not go through.
Peter said no — 19th Street was a transportation issue and Juniper Ridge would involve
land use changes. Policy 4.9.4 addresses this and suggests it may have to be revisited in
the future.
Public Testimony:
James Lewis spoke about an email he sent today. He feels that in the past year and a half
of working through this process, we still have policies that do the same thing. What
happened to all of the testimony submitted, and why haven't the opinions been taken into
consideration? He questioned policy 4.9.2 - why wait to do this? Also, Policy 4.9.4 says
we will "plan to plan." At the last stakeholders' meeting, everyone wanted a plan. Inner
and outer boundaries could be created within a % mile of the interchange. Policies could
be put into the Comprehensive Plan to provide protection of the neighborhoods and
control growth. We need specific policies.
Janice Elrod has lived in the area for 55 years. She felt that the meetings regarding
19th Street provided a meaningful dialogue. The survey is a little troubling to her — it is not
evenly divided between those who do and those who do not desire development. It turns
out that employees also submitted comments, which tilted the results. She feels like the
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City of Bend wants certain things to happen as does Redmond, but Deschutes Junction is
in the middle and does not get much thought. She would like to see their involvement.
One group wants 30 acres changed to industrial directly across from them; their air has
already been degraded. She is concerned about growth. It is all rural on the east side of
the track.
Nick mentioned that the zone change is pending before a hearings officer and has been
continued to June 8. Peter said that the zone change is only for storing aggregate
materials, not new industrial operation, so it has an overlay zone. Janice said they are
already operating on the land, and Chair Brown said this could be taken up with the
hearings officer.
Hal Keesling said the May 13 memo is misleading and does not do justice to the process.
There are no numbers and issues seem to be jammed together from meeting to meeting.
There was a vote at one of the meetings and groups of people are saying different things.
The Commissioners should get those numbers at the meetings and they should be part of
the public record. This has been an informal process, so there is no record. Regarding
19th Street - if it gets built, DSL has a legal mandate to request thousands of acres from
BLM. BLM will give that land to the state, and it will comprise a large block that can be
sold for industrial development. He would like to see the current character of Deschutes
Junction maintained. Commissioner Turner asked if Hal considers himself a Deschutes
Junction resident, and he said he did.
Dan Rider testified against growth. He is having second thoughts about a purchase in
Boonesborough. A small group of owners wants to change the zoning of land for profit,
and over 300 homeowners' concerns may be ignored. How do we stop the influence of a
select few?
Tony Aceti said he owns property around the interchange. He wants to do something with
his land and wants to compromise. He would like to see a rural service center and
provided written testimony in support. He wants to serve the people living in the
community. Let's keep the outer area rural. People enjoyed the overpass when it was put
in. There are 1700 homesites within a two-mile circle, and until there was an overpass
there was maybe 60% buildout. Once there was safe access it changed everything.
There are ways to defend what he wants to do while keeping some areas rural.
Commissioner Powell asked when Tony acquired his property. Tony said in 1995, just
after Highway 97 became four lanes and Deschutes Junction became an issue with cross
traffic. He was led to believe that putting a new road through farmland required an
exception at the time, and he was threatened by ODOT. He had already taken out a
permit for a second barn.
Lisa Harris said the overpass impacted Deschutes Junction. This is a benefit for the local
people to have services and jobs available. Planning for inevitable growth is responsible
and necessary. The outer residents want to remain residential and have the core
considered for the change, which would benefit everyone who uses the interchange. A
plan should be developed to benefit everyone, unlike the situation with 19th Street.
Dan Young indicated that James Lewis has summarized what Dan would like to say.
There is a general County attitude - in Deschutes Junction in particular — "not in my
backyard." In order to live in one of the fastest-growing areas of the nation, everyone
needs to be in on the process of planning. He is a non-professional and would like the
Commissioners to plan ahead for expansion. The cat's already out of the bag and
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changes have occurred. One by one, there are and will be applications. Deschutes
Junction will be rezoned and, without planning, not in the best interests of the area.
Robert Fair spoke about the 1979 boundary from Tumalo Road to 61St. He got zoning for
a rural service center before purchasing his property and has letters from the Planning
Commission approving it. A lot of money was spent and there have been nothing but
problems for the last few years. Regarding 19t`' Street, they were told that a frontage road
would be put in and 19t" Street is taking the funds. Secondary access from Pronghorn
needs to be looked at.
Marion Woodall wanted to encourage the County to avoid adding more sprawl. There is
no reason to create the sprawl that will result if businesses are added to Deschutes
Junction. More commercial development will add inevitable sprawl, and hundreds of
residents do not want it in this part of the County.
Chair Brown and Nick discussed the future schedule. Nick suggested starting the public
hearings in August due to having to issue the 45 -day notice. Commissioner Irvine asked
about the adoption of these policies and whether it has to occur before the Comprehensive
Plan and hearings are finished. Nick said the community plans do not have to be
completed before the Comprehensive Plan is finalized. With Tumalo and Terrebonne as
unincorporated communities, we are updating those sections. Chair Brown felt that if
there is a way to complete these before the final Comprehensive Plan, we should do it so
we do not miss anything, even if the schedule is a little more difficult. Commissioner
Turner agreed and thought that the second discussion could be held in June. Nick
discussed having one meeting with oral testimony and keeping the written record open.
Chair Brown thought that we should try to do it in one hearing if possible.
Vice Chair Criss had to leave at this point in the meeting.
V. DISCUSSION: TA -09-7 AND TA -10-3, Minor Changes to Deschutes County Code for
Guest Ranches and EFU Zoning (by statute not requiring a public hearing) - Paul
Blikstad, Senior Planner.
Nick spoke in Paul's absence. The intent of the amendments is to make County Code
consistent with state law. Chair Brown and Nick spoke about guest ranches and small
destination resorts. We have four guest ranches in Deschutes County, more than any
other county in Oregon. One proposed change to state law is to allow fractional interests
as it is very difficult for farmers to afford the entire investment. Nick and Commissioner
Irvine spoke about the language regarding community centers, and Nick said that Paul
may need to answer some questions about that. Chair Brown thought that this was
actually an information session, since the Board can do it without input. Commissioner
Powell said he had noticed that permitted uses under "Q" included geothermal, oil and
gas. In the next section it says "conditional uses," and under "G" he is reading the same
references. It caught his eye because of fracking. If there was a way for the County to be
able to get its two cents' worth on fracking - if a gas company wanted to do that, rather
than having them just come in and potentially contaminate the aquifers, it might be
something if they could choose between an outright and a conditional use.
Commissioner Turner asked about guest farms and wondered if a ranch involves a hay
operation, is it a ranch or an agricultural operation? Chair Brown spoke about his
communications with the Extension Service. Commissioner Turner also thought that there
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was an assumption of an ongoing livestock operation and wondered whether the event
venue issue could be involved. Could someone obtain 160 acres and use those for an
event venue operation under the guise of a guest ranch? Chair Brown mentioned that he
could operate his produce stand as long as no more than 25% of the revenue is from non -
produce activity. This may be where the EFU issue is going. Commissioner Unger has
also proposed a licensing process. Commissioner Powell asked about problems with
guest ranches. He was thinking of Donna Gill's which has been here forever and has
been an event center. Have there been any difficulties with that, and are there any
lessons that we could learn from the existing ones that need to come in here? Nick said
he is not aware of any problems; that would be under Code Enforcement. One of the
issues could be that one of the differences between event venues and guest ranches is
the minimum lot size of 160 acres. That issue was raised with the work group as to how
we want to tackle these. Guest ranches are only approved via a conditional use. In
18.16.037, guest ranches are defined under conditional use. In this case, Deschutes
County is not more restrictive than state law - unlike destination resorts where we are a bit
more restrictive. Nick also mentioned that we do have bed -and -breakfast operations on
EFU land in the County.
Commissioner Klyce asked if the County has any high-value farmland. Nick said that as
far as he knows, according to state law we do not; however, we will check further. High
value farmland was discussed. The group decided to have Paul at the next meeting to
answer some questions. Commissioner Klyce wondered whether we should just move on
to the Comprehensive Plan Update at the next meeting, since the Commissioners were
not making a decision on this issue.
VI. DISCUSSION: TSP Update — Peter Russell, Senior Transportation Planner.
Peter said that the County received a $150,000 grant to update the 20 -year TSP (the last
one was done in 1998). ODOT is doing a transportation model. We are having a series of
open houses in the communities. In Sisters, the main issues are about cycling and a
group wants to pave Sisemore Road which does not pencil out. You can currently bicycle
the route. The County currently has a moratorium on maintenance for new roads.
Commissioner Cyrus asked about winter deer range if Sisemore was paved. Peter said
some of the roads are subject to seasonal closures, and Sisemore is not gated.
In Terrebonne, there is some concern about bioswales. The main concern was about the
Lower Bridge Way intersection and the number of trucks using Smith Rock Way.
Commissioner Klyce asked about the trucks. Peter said they usually come out of the rock
sites in the County, and Smith Rock Way has less curves than O'Neill Highway.
In Tumalo, many people are interested in the intersection on U.S. 20. Peter said that most
of the traffic movement would not be changed. Commissioner Klyce wondered about
future licensing fees for bicycles to help cover costs. He also thought that shoulders
should be added to Lower Bridge before cycling signs went up.
VII. DISCUSSION: Possible Water Questions for Kyle Gorman — Nick Lelack, Planning
Director.
Chair Brown mentioned asking about aquifers, runoff, etc., and said he had asked if Kyle
was available to answer any and all questions. There is a Comprehensive Plan meeting
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scheduled on that date, so we should try to prepare questions ahead of time. Chair Brown
also said someone from the Extension Service could come in to answer questions about
agritourism during the same meeting. Chair Brown and Commissioner Powell discussed
possible questions to be submitted to staff by next Thursday for forwarding to Kyle.
VIII. AG SUMMARY COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS (note this is an additional agenda item).
Chair Brown and Commissioner Turner discussed expectations of the Comp Plan update.
Commissioner Turner said he expects staff and the County Commissioners to have their
own ideas about what should be in it, and the Commissioners would be providing edits to
assist. Chair Brown said his expectations were to do some things to repair the process,
and the Comp Plan has a lot to do with that. Nick said that communities handle all types
of different things — some of our changes echo the Lane County Plan. One thing Terri
wanted to see was for Goal 3 to cover protecting agricultural lands and not the industry.
The subzones are unique to the County and allow significantly smaller parcels than State
law allows. If we are going to change the subzones, there needs to be a basis to do that.
Commissioner Cyrus discussed changes in agricultural practices.
Commissioner Turner and Chair Brown discussed possible language changes regarding
tools to determine appropriate uses in agricultural land and the definition of agriculture.
Nick indicated that state law is much more restrictive than the County's. Chair Brown
suggested that we do not want to go against the state. Nick said it would just be leaving
the door open for future possibilities. Nick suggested that the County could suggest a
definition but not pick a fight. Commissioner Cyrus mentioned problems with what used to
be cash crops and having less options for making a living on the land. Nick said a section
could be added indicating we would like to lobby for a change in State law for the definition
of agriculture, due to the County's unique characteristics. Commissioner Klyce felt there
needs to be a change in policies regarding agriculture. Commissioner Powell and Chair
Brown discussed smaller farming practices in other countries.
VIII. PLANNING COMMISSION & STAFF COMMENTS.
Nick talked about a recent decision from the Court of Appeals dealing with converting
farmland to other uses and also the upcoming budget hearings. Our work plan will be
heard on Wednesday, May 26. Nick has not heard back from the Board regarding re-
appointing Commissioner Klyce and whether to extend Commissioner Cyrus' term. Two
trials are coming up for event venue Code violations on June 8 and June 10.
Commissioner Turner asked about mediation attempts. Nick said the topic came up in
November and that everyone thought- Oregon Rush Soccer was going to propose event
venues and submit an application. We had hoped that the application would go through a
hearings offer and a decision would have been made by now. There are ongoing
discussions about other avenues and how to proceed, but most is happening through legal
counsel. So far neither side has moved forward to resolve the issue.
The destination resort work group subcommittee will meet on May 24 and June 14. The
full destination resort work group will meet next door on July 16 and will tour three resorts
in the morning, followed by a three-hour meeting. There are 12-15 people in the work
group, but there could be a lot more for this meeting. The Board will deliberate on May 26
concerning destination resorts.
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Chair Brown mentioned discussing representation of the Commissioners before the Board
and meeting with County legal counsel. It was recommended that when we have a tough
issue going to the Board, we can authorize one or two members of the group to answer
questions. There is some latitude.
Commissioner Klyce and Nick discussed a recent case under RLUPA about banning
churches within a UGB. Nick said that the settlement was for DLCD to address it through
rulemaking.
IX. ADJOURN
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned.
Respectf Ily submitted,
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Sher Buckner, Administrative Secretary
NEXT MEETING — May 27, 2010, at 5:30 p.m. at the
Deschutes Services Center, 1300 NW Wall Street, Bend, OR 97701