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MINUTES
DESCHUTES COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION
DESCHUTES SERVICES CENTER
1300 NW WALL STREET, BEND, OREGON, 97701
JANUARY 6, 2011 — 5:30 P.M.
I. CALL TO ORDER
Meeting was called to order at 5:30 p.m. by Chair Chris Brown. Members present were:
Vice Chair Ed Criss, James Powell, Merle Irvine, Bill Rainey, Todd Turner, and Richard
Klyce. Staff present were Nick Lelack, Planning Director; Peter Gutowsky, Principal
Planner; Terri Payne, Senior Planner; and Sher Buckner, Administrative Secretary.
II. PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA
None.
III. CONTINUED DELIBERATION: Ordinance 2011-003, Comprehensive Plan Update,
Discussion About Adding a Preamble - Terri Hansen Payne, Senior Planner.
Commissioner Turner asked about staff's position regarding a preamble, and Terri said
that staff had tried to include balanced statements per the public's request during our
outreach meetings. Commissioner Rainey spoke about the last preamble he had received
via email (Commissioner Powell's) and said had attempted to make some revisions to
make it more understandable.
Commissioner Klyce spoke about his proposed preamble and said he had written it after
he had noticed, early on in the Comp Plan process and while attending meetings in South
County, that a lot of people said they wanted protection for their property rights. When we
started working on the Comp Plan, there were 21 references to property rights. There
were another eight or so references to preserving economic value of property. He
remembered many times when we struck a phrase which protected property rights from
the goals and policies, with the intention that we would later cover it in a preamble. So the
phrases mentioning property rights dropped to just one. During the last four weeks of
testimony from the public, about 24 out of 60 indicated they wanted language in the Plan
protecting property rights.
Commissioner Powell said that his submittal was an attempt to reflect what was happening
— there certainly is an interest in protecting property rights, but there is also an interest in
balanced protection of resources and rights. He did not want to see language in a
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preamble that would predetermine an outcome. He felt that Commissioner Klyce's
suggested preamble might predetermine biased decisions based on property rights.
Commissioner Rainey said that he thought that Commissioner Powell's submittal
represented a fair and balanced approach, and he had just revised the language a bit. He
supports a balanced approach.
Commissioner Irvine felt it was important to bring out property rights, and they should not
take a back seat to anything else. He felt that Commissioner Powell's and Commissioner
Rainey's versions might be a little long, and perhaps only the second paragraph of one or
the other should be included. Chair Brown said he supported Commissioner Irvine's
comments about the length of the preamble. He has shortened both versions and
removed the historical information, which left a fairly short document in both cases. We
are dealing with a large document in the Comp Plan, and someone opening it up needs a
clear picture of what is going on, right at the beginning. He felt that the preamble should
explain the purpose and intent of the document. He has looked at other various Comp
Plans from around the state and drafted another version for our document.
Chair Brown asked Commissioner Powell for his opinion of the first sentence in
Commissioner Klyce's proposed preamble, and Commissioner Powell said he did not have
a problem with it. Commissioner Klyce wanted to draw attention to the first sentence of
the second to the last paragraph under his Preamble #2, which said that this Commission
recognizes the fundamental right of government to regulate land use. He felt there is no
question as to the right and duty of government to regulate land use. Commissioner
Turner said he came to this meeting questioning the need for a preamble at all. There is a
statement about community vision that might be taken for a preamble, but he would like to
recognize the work on the proposed submittals. He agrees that the first paragraph of
Commissioner Powell's submittal may not be necessary. He feels that Chair Brown's
preamble sounds more like a disclaimer.
Chair Brown said he wanted to be sure there is general agreement. Vice Chair Criss
thought that this was a very tough issue. There are many issues in South County
involving land rights. He feels that the preamble should describe the basics of the
document, and we need to have balance. He agreed with Commissioner Klyce's point
about how many times property rights were mentioned in the original document, and
perhaps the best place to mention property rights is in the preamble. He has also
explained to people in South County that the goals and policies in the document are not
ordinances or set in stone. We need to try to put something in this preamble that lets
people know this is a living document.
Chair Brown and Nick discussed the weight of this section of the document compared to
goals and policies. Nick said that the preamble would be used to guide decisions. People
will refer back to the vision and to see whether an ordinance is consistent with the
preamble and the goals. The preamble is the underlying vision of the document. Terri
said that our value statement had gone out to the public a number of times, and we
received input that they wanted a balanced approach. Peter said that he looks toward the
future, when we start addressing challenging work programs, and land use planning is
going to require collaboration and strategic partnerships. He is concerned that if the
preamble is inconsistent with the goals and policies, this may provide opportunities in
future work plans for those who don't want to collaborate to go back to the preamble and
use it to undermine an approach. It could be relating to wildlife habitat, commercial events
on EFU or many other issues, but he doesn't want to see the preamble undermine
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partnerships and mutually beneficial solutions. Land use in the future will be a challenge,
requiring extraordinary collaborations.
Commissioner Powell asked about the definition of property rights. Chair Brown
mentioned an individual's right to quiet enjoyment of his/her land and to use it for things
that are not in contravention of the law. Commissioner Turner wondered if the Comp Plan
is the place to have a property rights battlefield. When we talk about adding statements
regarding protection of property rights, does that mean they are more important than
environmental issues, for example? Most of our discussions and the public input have
centered around balance. We all have differing opinions, and this Comp Plan belongs to
the entire County. He questions how seven people can write this and come up with a
definition of real property. He would like to get public input about the preamble if we revise
it. Commissioner Klyce spoke about the public being able to comment during the Board
hearings. He also was referring to "real property" as compared to personal property.
Terri said the question of private property rights is the heart of what we are talking about.
Most people want to do what they want with their own property but restrict their neighbor's
activities if they interfere. We all agree that land use laws are important, and the question
is where the line is located. We tried, in the community vision statement, to capture the
public's sentiment (page 8). Vice Chair Criss felt it was important to have a mission
statement or preamble at the beginning of the document. Commissioner Raney read a
short preamble from Benton County that he felt summarized the intent of the document.
Chair Brown suggested that he present his version of a preamble to the Board at a later
date. He also recommended that the other Commissioners let Commissioners Powell and
Klyce know what parts of their preambles meet with their approval and what points of view
do not, and then we can discuss this again at the next meeting. Commissioner Powell did
not agree — he said he had submitted concepts and was discussing language with
Commissioner Klyce. He agreed that his first paragraph could be eliminated.
Commissioner Irvine said he had re -read the second paragraphs of Commissioner Klyce's
and Commissioner Powell's preambles. He agrees that we need a balanced process for
different viewpoints. Commissioner Turner said he agreed with the second paragraph of
Commissioner Powell's and Commissioner Rainey's preambles.
Commissioners Klyce, Rainey and Turner discussed further language revisions. "The
Deschutes County Comprehensive Plan is a statement of issues, goals and policies meant to
guide the future of land use in this County. The Comprehensive Plan is intended to promote
a balanced, practical approach wherever possible, recognizing the expectations and rights of
property owners and the community as a whole." Commissioner Turner and Terri discussed
following this language with the community vision statement. The Commissioners will vote
on whether to send the Plan forward to the Board at their next meeting.
IV. PLANNING COMMISSION & STAFF COMMENTS
The Commissioners, Peter and Nick discussed the grandfather clause and risks raised by
Legal. Chair Brown discussed the "sunset" date of January 11. Peter said a LUBA
decision is expected in March, and we will look at any necessary revisions at that time.
The Board will likely not close any hearing until after a LUBA decision is issued. Peter
summarized the issue for the new Commissioners — last summer the County adopted two
ordinances - one for lands being added to the destination resort map, and a procedural
ordinance to describe how an applicant can submit a request. There was a grandfather
clause stating that the owners of lands becoming ineligible (due to the other ordinance)
could submit a request to remain on the map. The question is whether the
Comprehensive Plan needs to reflect that grandfather ordinance. Commissioner Rainey
wondered if this would be a question for legal counsel. Peter said that Legal had made
the decision that it was not a policy but rather a procedure. This Commission has the
ability to recommend it as a procedure in the Comp Plan.
Commissioners Turner and Rainey wondered why we are discussing this if it expires
tomorrow. Peter said that LUBA will decide in March if it is a legitimate and acceptable
practice before the Comp Plan is updated. The current Comprehensive Plan, in place
today, and as amended this summer, does not have the grandfather clause.
Commissioner Powell asked if this could be put into the text of this Plan and carry the
same weight, if it is not a policy. Commissioner Klyce said he had been talking to Dave
Hunnicut of Oregonians in Action about this issue. Dave feels that if we do not support the
grandfather clause in the new Comprehensive Plan, it is entirely possible that the 700+
people who want to retain their mapping status can lose it on legal challenges in the
future. Terri said we have amended one of the policies in the Plan and read that language
to the Commissioners.
Election of Chair and Vice Chair
Commissioner Turner nominated Commissioner Powell to become Chair, and
Commissioner Klyce nominated Commissioner Irvine. Commissioner Irvine was
elected Chair.
Commissioner Klyce nominated Chair Brown as Vice Chair. Chris Brown was elected
Vice Chair.
Nick spoke about the Board's business meetings being televised and upcoming changes to
the meeting room setup. He also mentioned the recent decision issued on the pink building
for Deschutes Junction. The Board will be calling this up and holding a public hearing.
Also, Nick said that next Wednesday during the afternoon, there will be a work session
with the Board on elements of our work plan for the remainder of the fiscal year. We will
be awarded another $30,000 to keep the regional economic opportunity analysis project
moving forward, if the Board authorizes it. Nick indicated that this is a three -county issue.
Peter and the Commissioners discussed elements of the work plan. Nick also provided
information on the laptop computers requested by the Commissioners.
V. ADJOURN
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned.
Res ctfu"' submitt ,
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Administrative Secretary
NEXT MEETING — January 13, 2011, at 5:30 p.m. at the
Deschutes Services Center, 1300 NW Wall Street, Bend, OR 97701