HomeMy WebLinkAbout2011-02-10 - Planning Commission MinutesI. CALL TO ORDER
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MINUTES
DESCHUTES COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION
DESCHUTES SERVICES CENTER
1300 NW WALL STREET, BEND, OREGON, 97701
FEBRUARY 10, 2011— 5:30 P.m.
Meeting was called to order at 5:30 p.m. by Chair Merle Irvine. Members present were:
Vice Chair Chris Brown, Ed Criss, James Powell, Bill Rainey, Todd Turner, and Richard
Klyce. Staff present were Nick Lelack, Planning Director; Peter Gutowsky, Principal
Planner; and Sher Buckner, Administrative Secretary.
II. PUBLIC COMMENTS
None.
III. DELIBERATION: — An Ordinance Amending Title 18 of the Deschutes County Zoning
Code Regulations for Small Wind Energy Systems — Peter Gutowsky, Principal
Planner.
Commissioner Turner asked about violations of public meeting rules in connection with
emails. Peter said that if there are more than three exchanges, it would constitute a
quorum and require a public meeting. The emails Commissioner Turner references were
just providing information and no discussion took place.
Commissioner Powell asked Peter if he had any recommended changes to the ordinance.
Peter said there will probably be some substantive policy discussions this evening. One
issue is that our current draft prohibits lighting unless you are in an airport overlay zone
and subject to FAA requirements. Another issue is that the aesthetics provision contains a
reference to a paint palette that was lifted from a telecommunication towers provision, but
Peter felt that the panelists we had in attendance previously made a good argument that
the manufacturers do a good job of selecting colors, so perhaps we should strike that
language.
Commissioner Turner discussed trying to determine the appropriate scale. Wind energy
associations base it on 100 kW. But our previous discussions concentrated on a 3 kW to
20 kW size as recommended by the panel, so the question becomes more one of height.
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Vice Chair Brown felt we needed a three-step process — one level where it's so small that
if someone could put up a barn, a wind turbine would be permitted; a second level where
notification and/or approval are required (or some other protective mechanism); and a third
level involving commercial use with permits, etc. In Deschutes County, 71% of the parcels
are three acres or less. Having a "base level" makes this much easier to deal with, and we
should not regulate things that may not be problems.
Commissioner Powell had looked at Department of Energy recommendations (80 meters
above ground). The highest wind speed is at Paulina, around 24 mph at 80 meters. If you
use the Energy Trust figures, the only places that will meet their criteria are Terrebonne,
Smith Rock, Deschutes River Woods, parts of Ward Road and a few others east of town
that are all 11-10 mph. Everything else is below that and would not qualify for the Energy
Trust. La Pine is only 7 mph. Sisters is only 8. Commissioner Turner felt that our
consideration probably should not include economics. People who are ham operators, for
example, spend a lot of money to build their antennas. People who want to put in a wind
facility are doing it for other reasons besides economics such as making a statement,
getting back some of their costs, etc. It's a no-win economic situation. Commissioner
Powell said he had also looked at blade sizes. If you go to 12 kW, it requires a 22 -ft
diameter. One to two kW is around 12 feet. Maybe we should look at 3 kW for a start if
71 % of the lots in the County are small.
Commissioner Klyce mentioned seeing a single wind tower along the road and felt that
one is not intrusive to an area at all — but a large group would be different. If the towers
aren't allowed where physics indicates they should be, there is no point in putting them up.
Commissioner Powell wondered about putting one up in Woodside. There are 2.5 -acre
lots, CCNR's that prohibit them without a subdivision waiver, and you'd have to go up
60 feet. If we were going to allow 3 kW or less outright, up to a certain number of feet, and
there would not be site plan review, would they need a waiver from the neighbors? How
do you make sure people work with their neighbors?
Commissioner Klyce spoke about submitting a plot plan for building a house. There is a
reference in the Code to having a licensed professional do this, which he feels is not
necessary and adds expense. If he builds a pole barn, it has to be engineered so it does
not fall down, and it can be put right up next to the setback. Do we need a different type of
setback for wind towers? If we use drawings that aren't site specific, maybe we do not
need this. Commissioner Turner said that he did not think the setback is a safety issue.
He sees the setback more as a neighbor issue, more of a noise issue, than a building (or
in this case tower) safety issue. There are places in the County that are 6,000 feet versus
places that are 2,000 feet with different load conditions due to weather, ice, etc. In his
business, an Oregon stamp is required so that someone from out of state does not use
canned information.
Commissioner Klyce felt it would be easy to site towers in a place like Woodside Ranch. If
you have a 70 or 80 -foot monopole due to the trees, the tower would blend in. If you use
1.5 times the tower height as a setback, a 2.5 -acre lot is about 225 feet across. When you
throw in the setback requirement for that, you've eliminated using a tower. Commissioner
Powell mentioned that the residents of Woodside, for example, would not like towers. We
should be able to come up with some reasonable requirements. Vice Chair Brown agreed
with Peter that we should remove the restriction of color from the proposed ordinance.
Commissioner Turner agreed except that maybe we should simplify it so that someone
does not use a kaleidoscope of color. Vice Chair Turner discussed using language from
Jefferson County.
Commissioner Turner suggested we instruct staff to use as a guideline 431.4 paragraph 8,
Visual Impacts, from Jefferson County, specifically (b) regarding colors. The other
Commissioners all agreed.
Commissioner Klyce said he would be happy with 10-20 kW being permitted outright;
Commissioner Criss talked about 50-100 kW being a commercial level. Nick and the
Commissioners discussed 0-10 kW being permitted outright and greater than 10 kW
requiring site plan review. Commissioner Powell wondered if we could tie part of this to lot
size. If someone has less than five acres, they could go up to 3 kW without site plan
review; if you have ten or more acres, you could go up in kW and height as well — without
site plan review unless it is over a certain height, needs a lattice versus a monopole, etc.
Vice Chair Brown wondered if it would be better to use a setback rather than lot size — if the
tower is 50 feet tall and the setback is 100 feet, the lot would have to have at least 100 feet
in all directions to the property line, for example. Commissioner Powell thought that the
smaller lots were going to be in platted subdivisions where there is more population density.
Larger lot sizes would solve the problem with density. Commissioner Criss said he had
spoken to an insurance agent and asked about the liability insurance requirements for a
tower. There is no threat because a tower failing is such a rare occurrence — insurance
companies do not consider it a risk, and a tower does not increase insurance costs.
Commissioner Rainey felt that setbacks are important so that a tower does not impinge on
neighbors' views — a neighbor could put one in a setback so that it does not interfere with
his own view but which might bother other neighbors. Commissioner Klyce spoke about
the advantage of putting a tower closer to the house due to power loss with increased
distance. Chair Irvine felt that setbacks would help the process of reducing the amount of
regulations. Commissioner Turner felt that connecting tower height to setback provides a
lot more flexibility; there are a lot of differently -shaped parcels. Peter said that the current
setback is 1.5 times the height of the wind tower to the nearest property lines. Vice Chair
Brown felt that the guy wires should not be included in the setback. Commissioner Turner
asked if there was any consensus about the noise — can we go with 60 dB at the property
line? The other Commissioners agreed.
Commissioner Klyce wanted to delete (C)(7)(b) regarding using a design professional for
the site plan, page 1 of Exhibit B. If a site plan by a design professional is required, this
adds to the cost of the system. A licensed professional isn't required for a site plan for a
house/barn/garage now. Peter mentioned that 7(a), (b) and (c) were recommended by our
Building Division, so we would check with them and convey a difference of opinion to the
Board. The Commissioners agreed that this was not necessary for a tower. Chair Irvine
felt it would be necessary to have a licensed professional for the tower foundation but not
the site plan. The Commissioners agreed with Commissioner Klyce.
Chair Irvine suggested permitting 0-10 kW outright if a tower meets other criteria, and a site
plan be required from 11 kW up. The Commissioners agreed. Commissioner Klyce
suggested requiring a conditional use permit for 100 kW, and Commissioner Turner
suggested 50. Peter asked if we would be requiring a site plan as well as conditional use
and Nick said yes. The Commissioners discussed requiring a conditional use permit for 50+
kW to 100 M. Commissioner Turner added that height and noise limits would be
constraints, as well. The Commissioners discussed how to measure height — whether it is
blade height or tower height, and how it relates to setbacks. Commissioner Klyce discussed
lot sizes and restricting the majority of the properties in the County since they are under
three acres. It is written into the Comp Plan that we need to consider alternate types of
energy, so we should not be restrictive. Nick suggested using different ratios for setbacks —
under 10 kW would be .5, for example, over 10-50 is 1.0, and above 50 would be 1.5 times
the tower height.
Commissioner Klyce and Commissioner Turner wondered whether the word "commercial"
should be used, when people would be selling power back to the power company in a
residential situation. Commissioner Turner wondered about people who are off the grid
and want to generate electricity for themselves and their neighbors, charging a reasonable
fee. Are they considered commercial? What if the neighbors have access to the grid but
choose not to use it? Nick and Vice Chair Brown spoke about other height limits in the
County for ham radio antennas, cell towers, etc. Peter discussed land use distinctions in
the Code.
Commissioner Criss spoke about tower height in relation to wind speed and productivity.
Chair Irvine requested that staff propose a matrix and also come back with some
examples of setbacks. Peter and Commissioner Turner considered the .5 height/setback
ratio, which may allow towers that are very tall on smaller lots.
IV. PLANNING DIVISION WORK PLAN UPDATE — Nick Lelack.
Commissioner Rainey asked if South County was happy with the Board's decision to wait to
start their plan. Commissioner Criss said they discussed this last week both with the CAG and
a number of private citizens who were all fine with the concept. Vice Chair Brown asked about
the Board's direction on event venues. Nick said in mid to late March/early April, staff will
prepare a matrix of options to give us direction as to what they would like to see in a draft
ordinance. Staff will draft the ordinance, issue the 45 -day notice and during that time we will
have work sessions with the Planning Commission (no public hearings). They can review the
ordinance, forward it without changes, make recommendations, etc., and then hearings will be
conducted with the Board.
Vice Chair Brown asked if code enforcement cases were proceeding, and Nick said that had
been the Board's direction but we can raise it and see if it is the same now that we have a new
member.
V. PLANNING COMMISSION & STAFF COMMENTS.
Nick said that the draft Comprehensive Plan is now on the website. Chair Irvine asked
what we are submitting to the Board. Nick said there is now only one version and anything
that staff did not agree with is shown with brackets (there are not many). Chair Irvine
requested a hard copy of what is being submitted to the Board. Vice Chair Brown
suggested only printing pages that showed changes. Commissioners Criss and Powell
said they did not need new copies.
Commissioner Rainey asked if we needed to have public hearings about the changes in
the wind energy ordinance. Nick said we did not but could if we wanted to. Commissioner
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Rainey felt it might be good practice if there are substantial changes, and Nick mentioned
that it would go to the Board for public hearings.
Commissioner Criss mentioned the draft legislation regarding Sunriver and wondered if
staff or the Board had anything to do with drafting the legislation. Nick said no in both
cases.
VI. ADJOURN
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned.
Resp ctfully submitted,
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Sher Buckner
Administrative Secretary
NEXT MEETING — March 10, 2011, at 5:30 p.m. at the
Deschutes Services Center, 1300 NW Wall Street, Bend, OR 97701