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MINUTES
DESCHUTES COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION
LA PINE SENIOR CENTER, 16560 VICTORY WAY, LA PINE, OREGON
OCTOBER 25, 2012 — 5:30 P.M.
I. CALL TO ORDER
Meeting was called to order at 5:30 p.m. by Chair Bill Rainey. Members present were Vice
Chair Chris Brown, James Powell, Matt Lisignoli, Ed Criss and Hugh Palcic. Absent: Todd
Turner. Staff present were Nick Lelack, Planning Director; Peter Gutowsky, Principal
Planner; and Sher Buckner, Administrative Secretary.
Minutes of August 30, 2012 were approved.
II. PUBLIC COMMENTS
None.
1111. PUBLIC HEARING: Newberry Country — A Plan for South County — Peter Gutowsky,
Principal Planner.
Peter gave a Power Point presentation, summarizing the project background and purpose.
Chair Rainey and Peter clarified that people could testify here and/or at the next meeting in
Sunriver, they can submit written testimony until a specified date, and the Board will also be
holding a public hearing and accepting oral/written testimony.
Mike Hanrahan came from Grants Pass and said he was here with some people who own
property along Highway 97 near the transfer station, adjacent to BLM and Forest Service
roads. They are not familiar with the zoning overlays such as F2 and would like more
information. Because the property is across the highway from the solid waste transfer
station, they do not see a lot of discussion about solid waste in the Plan. They would like to
know where the additional solid waste will go as development proceeds and whether the
transfer station will be expanded, which will affect property values. Also, the property is badly
in need of fire treatment. The owners are interested but have gotten very high cost estimates
upon investigation, somewhere around $1000 per acre. How do they address fire hazards at
this cost? Peter said he could speak to Mike and respond to several of the zoning questions
after the meeting.
Quality Services Performed with Pride
Mike Waggoner testified as a resident of rural South County and was concerned about Policy
1.4.1, page 15 of the Plan, under natural hazards. It relates to evaluation of emergency
shelters and alternatives. He doesn't recall this being discussed at any of the meetings and
would like to know where it came from. Peter said the Planning Commission suggested in
the draft that it would be beneficial to have a broader discussion about emergency shelters,
and it was a policy that was worth introducing to see if the community supports it. Chair
Rainey said he may have been responsible for the policy addition, since he and his wife have
been very involved in preparedness in the Sisters area and work as Red Cross volunteers.
Marilyn Waggoner felt the preamble of the Plan is extremely important. She would like to ask
for transparency concerning partnerships. What are all of these partnerships doing in the
Plan, and what do they mean? There should be caution and openness in the process. She
is not in favor of the County arbitrarily listing agencies and implying directly or indirectly that a
partnership exists. We need to know more about organizations and what they stand for. In
Goal 16, page 16, she requests that the names of organizations be deleted from 16, 16.1 and
16.12. Policy 16.1 alone lists five agencies that South County needs to coordinate with. The
names should be left out and the policy written without them. They need to decide whether
they want to partner with that organization.
Debbie McQuary said she received her property taxes this week and wants to know how much
this is going to cost. She cannot afford any more money added to her tax bill. Peter said that
this document is not a regulatory document and it does not mandate activity and will not cost
anything — we are trying to identify new opportunities. The Board of County Commissioners
decided to spend $9000 to send rural residents postcards announcing this public hearing to get
the maximum amount of participation, to get feedback on a document that tries to identify
opportunities for this area. Will they will get to vote on each item, do they have to attend all of
the meetings, or does the County get to make decisions? Peter said the Plan was developed
with input from residents and we will have as many hearings as necessary to get feedback on
the Plan. The Board will likely hold more than one more public hearing to get even more
feedback. A majority of residents could decide they do not like the document, but many who are
attending this evening had input and were very involved in the development of the Plan. Nick
added that if an item in the Plan is something over which the County has jurisdiction, public input
will be sought before any decisions are made. One example would be working with the Central
Oregon Intergovernmental Council on transit opportunities. Some decisions would not be made
by the County at all.
Anne Gregersen questioned the use of the Plan for guiding decision making and the use of
the word "should" versus "will" in some places.
Wendell Evers testified that he lives in Newberry Estates. He questions support for COIC
and feels it should be omitted from Policy 10.1 and replaced with a collaboration with a
501(c)(3) private entity. He feels a local entity would be more responsible. He knows of a
501(c)(3) that would consider taking on this responsibility. He does not have anything against
COIC but they have their fingers in three counties and are very busy. South County is very
different, and for 2014 and 2015 they would prefer collaboration with a 501(c)(3). People ask
where their tax dollars are going. He provided a handwritten note to Alan Unger, who gave it
to Karen Friend. Karen said it would be provided to COIC and they would give Wendell the
requested documents. He has asked for copies of budgets and quarterly reports for 2011
and 2012 as well. Mark Pilliod sent a letter saying that for $158 he would provide the
documents. The problem is that Wendell has contacted COIC (the CEO) who did not
understand what was wanted. There are a multitude of emails with attachments but no
grants on instructions on how the grants were to be used. The Transportation Administrator
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then called asking what documents were requested. He finds it frustrating that he cannot
obtain the documents he wants. If you look on page 31 of the South County Plan, it says
COIC has six trips going into Bend. They have cut back to three. There are four grants
involved here. The COIC is too big to deal with South Deschutes County, so please remove
language regarding collaboration with them.
Pat Murphy commented that the wording in the proposed document that classifies everything
outside of urban growth development as a rural incorporated community is currently titled a
rural unincorporated area. He thinks the Planning Commission should change the wording to
"rural unincorporated community" to qualify for grants. The bus line here is severely restricted
due to lack of funds. He also wanted to know how many of the Planning Commissioners live
outside the incorporated urban development areas, or out in the country. Nick said that
Planning Commissioners, as volunteers, are not required to divulge where they live. Several
Commissioners indicated they do live in rural areas. Pat also asked if the County belongs to
the International Council for Local Environmental Initiatives, and if they are forming partnerships
with any organizations that do belong to it. Peter and Nick indicated we do not. Pat asked if
the County is a member of the National Regional Council and Nick said we are not.
Monte Harmon asked who the Commissioners are going to present this document to, to sign
into a rule, or whether the people of South County get a chance to vote on it. Peter said it is
a planning document, with no regulations, which tries to identify projects. The Planning
Commission will take testimony tonight and in Sunriver, then close the hearing and make a
recommendation to the Board. The Board will hold a hearing, take testimony and then make
a decision. Monte said we have been through this before and had a referendum vote which
threw it out. We are right back there now. Peter said there is no reference to the Local Rule
in this policy document. We can mail anyone who requests it a copy of the draft Plan to
make sure these references are not included. Monte said he does have a copy of the Plan.
The referendum vote took a decision on water away from the County. Goal 9 is still in this, so
what good is it? He wants to get rid of Goal 9, because the County has been told by the
voters to leave it alone. He knows the DEQ does not have a Gestapo that can enforce
anything.
Pam Cosmo said she is concerned about the Oregon Conservation Strategy mentioned on
page 38 of the Plan. She does not remember hearing anything about it at any of the
meetings. The map she has been given has a big yellow rectangle from Burgess Road to
Klamath County, and her house is in the middle of it. Is the introduction of the OCS an
attempt to limit what the area's owners can and cannot do on their land? Is any other part of
the County affected by this conservation strategy? Peter said that the OCS was developed
by the Oregon Dept. of Fish & Wildlife and identified an area of Whychus Creek outside of
Sisters as being environmentally significant. The Comprehensive Plan Update recognizes
this, and the ODF&W does not intend to be regulatory. Peter read the language from page
38, and said ODF&W is trying to raise awareness of habitats that provide areas for the
spotted frog, bull trout, various birds, etc., so that various communities can look at ways to
improve habitat on their own. It is just an attempt to identify conditions, not regulatory. Pam
also would like to see language about the sovereignty of the area not being able to be
compromised by anyone who is not an elected official. She also likes the idea that no Plan
should support any entities by name, as they can be co-opted by special interests. Who
knows what will be motivating these groups in the future? Organizations that we think are
good now may be very different in ten years. There also should be a mention of more public
access to waterways in the County.
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Liz Harmon said that on Page 1, it says the South County Plan encompasses the rural areas
South of Lava Butte, excepting Sunriver and La Pine. The map does not agree with this.
Peter said it should be consistent and the map should also delineate Lava Butte.
Ron Sharbaugh testified that he feels this process has been extremely positive. On page 28, a
very important point is underscored about the 12,000 high groundwater lots platted in the
1970's. Many of these lots should not have been platted. He is pleased with the policies set
forth in the Plan and feels they represent an honorable approach. The ultimate wastewater
treatment options are owed to the owners. The land swaps, etc., under 5.1(b) are also owed to
the landowners. On page 22, he would like to see a line modified and the word "onsite" added
and "thereby prohibiting residential development" deleted. He also discussed a USGS report
that does not contain enough scientifically justifiable evidence. See written testimony. On
page 36 it is unclear as to what the contaminated area would be. "High nitrate levels" are also
not defined. Uninformed citizens outside this area may be led to believe that all of the drinking
water in this area is bad.
Ellen Currie thanked the Commissioners for all of the opportunities for input on the Plan. She
appreciates all of the maps, tables and background information and it seems to be a very
comprehensive document. She commented on the goals and policies and is concerned
about the use of the word "encourage" on page 8, for example. What does this mean? What
kind of action will come out of that? On page 9, Policy 2.5 also uses the word "encourage"
regarding organizations and web pages, and this is unclear. She is also concerned about
2.6a and feels the example about providing new residents information about unpaved roads
is not needed. Something about our rural lifestyles or an example of public transportation
being limited would be more appropriate. We do not have any 24-hour health care here, and
mentioning this would be more appropriate. Also, the mention later of partnering with the
DEQ does not reference an ongoing assessment of alternative treatment systems'
efficiencies. Some of her colleagues say they have not been able to find any research as to
what an effective ATT system is and how to measure it.
On page 16, when potential sources of pollution are mentioned, other things besides roads
should be mentioned such as controlled burns and any industrial projects if added to the
area. In 16.11, the needs of the residents along the river must be considered. On 10.1(a),
rural outlying neighborhoods are mentioned. With what has recently happened with respect
to transportation and the money flowing to COIC, and how that was handled, there is
potentially a problem if the current situation is duplicated when this is implemented. When
the decision was made to cut routes outside the City of La Pine, no residents were included
in the discussion. Ellen asked if the Commissioners have a feel for which priorities will be
established, since there is not enough money to do all of these things. Nick said we will send
a copy of the Plan to all of the partner organizations that might have a role in implementing it,
once it is in final form, so they know what the issues are and that the residents want to be
involved. Regarding projects that the County would be involved in, we go through a public
process with the Board each spring to prioritize projects and add them to the work plan.
Chair Rainey mentioned that the South County Plan was moved to the top of the priority list
by the Board ahead of other projects.
Judy Forsythe said she was very encouraged by the testimony this evening and thanked staff
for their work. She agreed with Marilyn Waggoner that the preamble is very important and
was glad that Peter clarified this is not a mandatory document. We also need a designation
of rural unincorporated community here. We are so heavily platted that we deserve a
different designation. She agreed with Ron Sharbaugh that staff's approach to Policy 5.1 is
honorable. She would like to see Hayner Park issues in Section 36 taken care of. Once the
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Plan has been adopted, the County needs to address Goal 5 in Page 11 and designate the
area as a rural unincorporated community. In Policy 5.1(b) land swaps need to be seriously
considered. She asks that Goal 5 be prioritized following the completion of the South County
Plan and that the area be designated a rural unincorporated community. Also, could the land
swaps acquisition option potentially facilitate ways to create access to the rivers?
Commissioner Criss mentioned the upcoming hearing in Sunriver on November 8. The
hearing process is also open for written testimony, so please email us with comments. He
lives at the end of Burgess Road and understands the concerns of the area.
Several members of the audience and Peter discussed meeting notifications and postcards
that were sent.
Motion: Commissioner Criss motioned to continue the hearing to November 8. Seconded
by Commissioner Palcic. Motion approved.
IV. WORK SESSION: Destination Resort Housekeeping Amendments — Peter Gutowsky,
Principal Planner.
Peter discussed the amendments and said we want to insert the background text, goals and
policies, formatted with no changes, into the new Comprehensive Plan so that we have a
clean copy. We need to bring this matter before the Commissioners as a legislative
amendment, but it does not need to go before the Board. There is no change in the text
whatsoever, just reformatting.
V. UPDATE: Executive Order 12-07, A Pilot Program for Regional Farm and Forest Land
Conservation — Nick Lelack, Planning Director
Nick spoke about this program for three counties to develop definitions. Douglas County
would like additional rural residential opportunities in some type of small wood lot
designations such as one, two or four -acre lots. Jackson County has other, totally different
interests as does Josephine County. This program might do a big fix to correct mapping
errors for areas that have changed over time and warrant new designations - for example, to
non -resource. There could also be a new definition for agricultural land. One of the things
required for this project is to determine new, non -resource land designations — what
resources to they allow, property sizes, and potentially affected acres. The counties feel this
would take a long time — public processes would be involved, etc. The compromise might be
to apply criteria or definitions to some sample areas and then extrapolate to see if that works
for the counties.
There are three phases to the program — create a petition to the DLCD and DCLC with
options to pursue and amounts of land specified. In phase two, special rules would be
applied to the counties and put into state law through administrative rules, then added to
comprehensive plans and updated development codes. A steering committee of six
members, two from each county, oversees this — one Planning Commissioner and one
Planning Director. The Rogue Valley Council of Governments will be the depository for the
data, so for us the COIC would be the local entity. Nick has submitted the draft work program
to the Commissioners this evening.
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Commissioner Criss asked if some changes could cross county boundaries. Nick said there
is one pilot project so there may be forest definitions, for example, that satisfy all three but
are only used by Douglas County. Chair Rainey asked how and when this would impact us.
Nick said this is step one; Commissioner Lisignoli said that if something is designated high
value farmland, but the only high value is how many rocks you have to move, it is unfair to
the landowner. Vice Chair Brown felt this process may have a long gestation, and he does
not want to wait that long. There was something we were doing "back door" and he had
commented that we were doing the process that way rather than asking for the state to give
us a program they approve. It seems that the best way to handle this is to cooperate with
Jefferson and Crook Counties, and go to the state as a group. Nick said the state has been
hesitant in the past to use a regional process. Commissioner Lisignoli said the farmers in the
valley do not want to lose land to wetlands, but it is not a problem in this area. It's night and
day between here and the valley.
Nick said that one of the big disagreements is that there are soil complexes on these
properties, and it is not just one type of soil but a complex. Some could be Class 6 (in eastern
Oregon, soil classes from 1-6 are agriculture, 7 and 8 are not, unless they are irrigated in which
case they are designated a 6). One complex, for example, could have three types of
classifications. Our current understanding is you look at, say 200 acres, 50% are Class 6, 35%
are Class 7, and 15% are class 8, that's the final 30 acres. An opponent to this says the
majority (over 50%) should be Class 6, so the whole 200 acres are Class 6. This testimony
was submitted in a rebuttal and we need to re -open the public record and hearing to hash this
out. The hearing will probably be at the end of November, before our Board.
VI. PLANNING COMMISSION & STAFF COMMENTS
Vice Chair Criss asked about Tom's appointment as Interim County Administrator and
whether Peter or Nick will be the Planning Commission liaison. Nick said that it will still be his
role. Commissioner Powell felt that Peter handled this evening with a great deal of aplomb.
Commissioner Criss said he had attended the flood plain meeting last evening. There should
be more concern for people living along the river. Commissioner Powell added that the
whole river has a flood plain and if it was allowed to be natural, none of the buildings would
be there. The expectation that nothing will happen if one develops along a river needs to be
addressed during the process — there seems to be very little understanding of how a river
meanders. In Japan, it's all concrete troughs in populated areas, and debris is cleaned once
or twice a year. That is not what we want.
Nick said we will be receiving an application to amend the Code to increase the ratio of
residential units to overnight units for destination resorts. It is in Title 19, regarding Tetherow,
so it would be 2.5:1 if approved. We also have to coordinate with the City of Bend for
anything in Title 19.
VII. ADJOURN
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned.
Re ectfully submitted,
Sher Buckner
Administrative Secretary
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