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MINUTES
DESCHUTES COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION
DESCHUTES SERVICES CENTER
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MARCH 28, 2013 — 5:30 P.M.
I. CALL TO ORDER
Meeting was called to order at 5:30 p.m. by Vice Chair Chris Brown. Members present were
James Powell, Todd Turner, Ed Criss, Hugh Palcic and Matt Lisignoli. Absent: Chair Bill
Rainey. Staff present were Nick Lelack, Planning Director; Peter Russell, Senior
Transportation Planner; Will Groves, Senior Planner; and Sher Buckner, Administrative
Secretary.
Minutes of March 14, 2013 were approved.
11. PUBLIC COMMENTS
None.
111. PUBLIC HEARING: Planning Division Work Plan 2013-2014 — Nick Lelack, Planning
Director.
Nick discussed the work plan, and Commissioner Criss and Nick discussed unincorporated
communities — in Deschutes River Woods (DRW), this only includes an area around the
store. Commissioner Powell and Nick considered staff reductions related to the work plan.
Public Testimony
Melissa Steinbach showed a map of DRW and the surrounding area. Vice Chair Brown
asked about a population count, and Melissa said the 2010 census was a little over 5,000.
She received information from American Title of 4,000+, and there are over 1,000 people per
square mile. Woodside Ranch is maybe 580; DRW is about 3.83 square miles. River Bend
Estates is not included in that.
Jackie Pennoek testified about the history of DRW and their desire for a community plan.
Commissioner Powell asked about the vision for a community plan — are covenants desired,
rules that people abide by, etc. Jackie said there are quite a lot of issues in DRW, and they
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need help from governmental agencies. She sees problems such as zoning and needed
road improvements.
Tim Breedon also spoke about DRW and said there is no open space for bike trails, etc. There
are easements along the canal, but they run across people's properties. There are accesses to
recreational areas at the south end. One of the continuing issues is access via Baker Road.
They would like to keep development heading towards a residential area, not industrial or
commercial. The area south of the railroad tracks would be a good industrial area and would
not require another access from Baker Road. DRW also needs natural gas. Right now the
locals burn trash, wood, whatever they can get. Gas would be a great improvement and would
benefit the citizens greatly.
Greg Houton and Joyce Faltus testified and said they shared an identical land use issue at
Crooked River Ranch, which is split into Deschutes and Jefferson counties. There is a
problem with the number of livestock per usable acre and conditions for animals are really bad.
Joyce said the biggest problem is that Deschutes County residents are not recognized unless
they pay homeowners' association dues. They live next door to 14 horses on 3 usable acres
and have to stay indoors. Jefferson County has all kinds of rules and they say they will start
looking into Deschutes County codes. The CCNRs should include the area as a whole, not
Jefferson vs. Deschutes. Joyce has two potential neighbors building homes now who are
rethinking whether they want to move there due to the smell. She is concerned about the
waste from the animals seeping into their well. There are no farms. Greg agreed about the
odor and said he and his wife cannot go outside without smelling horse manure. Something
has to be done — maybe an amendment to the Code allowing one horse per acre - Jefferson is
unlimited. Commissioner Turner asked Nick about properties located in Deschutes County.
Don't Deschutes County rules apply? Nick said yes — their Board is primarily controlled by
Jefferson County, but the land use rules depend on where the land is located.
Commissioner Turner and Nick discussed the timing of the annual report draft. Vice Chair
Brown asked about the Commissioners' roles with livestock limits and animal abuse
complaints, and about carryover projects and the regulations on dock construction. Are we
spending time on something we have no say about? Will Groves said there are a set of rules in
the floodplain code relating to the construction of docks, but they are outdated. Other
departments such as Fish & Wildlife do not have the ability to enforce the codes and have been
unwilling to enforce things they would like to see, such as the use of untreated wood and
surfaces that will let in light. The County gives a conditional use permit for docks and gets
comments from the Department of State Lands and Fish & Wildlife. FEMA requires the County
to issue permits, so we are where the buck stops. We have gotten as many as ten requests a
year, now around five. The Army Corps only gets involved with certain types of large projects.
Commissioner Turner suggested closing the oral record this evening. Commissioner Powell
asked about public health rules for problems with animals and insects, and Nick said he
would look into them; we could leave the written record open until April 16.
Motion: Commissioner Turner motioned to close the oral record and leave written open until
April 16. Seconded by Vice Chair Brown. Motion passed.
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IV. DELIBERATIONS: TA -13-1, Amend Deschutes County Code 18.04 and 18.113 to
Change the Ratio of Overnight to Residential Units in Destination Resorts — Will
Groves, Senior Planner.
Will mentioned that the Board would like to hear the related item on Title 19 separately.
Commissioner Turner said he has worked on projects in Eagle Crest and Pronghorn as an
architect in the past but is not working with them currently. There were no conflict of interest
challenges.
Commissioner Powell said he has no difficulty with the applicant or Caldera Springs, but he is
concerned about the text amendment. He is currently on the side of not supporting it,
because the County has bent over backwards for the applicant over the years that the entity
has been in existence, both in terms of the timing of building overnight units, allowing some
flexibility into what constitutes an overnight unit, and in changing the vehicles which assure
the economic commitment on the part of the development itself. Commissioner Powell does
not see any of this changing, whether this goes through or not. Commissioner Palcic said he
sees the ratio as one additional bar that exists to make someone really think before they
apply for a destination resort. Lowering the bar puts more pressure on the conceptual master
plan. Commissioner Criss said he has some problems with the proposal — as we reduce
rentals we seem to be going against the original intent of the ratio. This would allow
changing of master plans already in place with the current ratio. When destination resorts
are built, developers get Goal 11 exceptions and whatever they need to build. Vice Chair
Brown wanted the rules to be clear, applicable and fair for all. Some of these destination
resorts are in place, and will they come back for revisions if this goes through — will they
change their master plans? This is an economic decision and that is not a bad thing. Just
because the state says it's okay does not mean it's okay for us, too. Deschutes County has
its own set of circumstances. He would vote yes at this time.
Commissioner Powell confirmed with Nick that the 50 overnight units have to be built first.
Commissioner Lisignoli confirmed with Nick that developers can still build to the 2:1 ratio,
even if it changes to 2.5:1. Commissioner Palcic asked what happens if they can't build 50
first, and point to economic conditions as the reason? Things continue to change.
Commissioner Turner said that with the direct involvement he has had with the resorts, the
difference of the ratios makes no difference in their quality or the overall impact on the areas
around them. This current scenario may even decrease impacts on the area. Decreasing
overnight housing decreases traffic, and destination resorts are a true economic engine for
this county.
Commissioner Powell said EDCO makes these points but we also have a legacy here. Most of
the people who move to central Oregon, according to EDCO, come to Sunriver, not Pronghorn;
and that is what motivated them to buy houses in the area. There is the question of whether to
put resources into a resort community or into something like the Big Look. He understands the
economic engine and taxes, but this is what drove people out of places like Aspen — the workers
couldn't live there. This is a policy question and not just a text amendment. Commissioner
Turner said he respects that duality. He knows a number of people in the Portland area with
vacation homes in Sunriver and does not see that as bad. He is more concerned about urban
sprawl than a destination resort that is master planned and scrutinized.
Commissioner Palcic and Vice Chair Brown discussed whether the 2.5 change is negligible and
the use of resources from visitors versus permanent residents — whether we are decreasing
overnight units or increasing permanent units. Commissioner Palcic gave an example of a
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developer taking a risk, which the current ones all have, and now we are being asked to throw
a life raft to them, in some respects. Entrepreneurs throughout the ages have all taken risks.
Commissioner Lisignoli felt that we need to accommodate developers to survive.
Commissioner Palcic felt we may be singling out one industry when others need help, too.
Commissioner Criss said that we have the most destination resorts of any county in the state.
We do want them to successful, but if we have so much of an impact with all of these homes —
an area back east was built out to 20% part time residents and 80% full time, which ended up
swapped and had a huge impact. Commissioner Palcic said he is trying to figure out how this
benefits the community at large.
Commissioner Turner asked if there had been any arguments or testimony in opposition. Will
mentioned Paul Dewey's letter on both proposals and the concern about these functioning as
rural subdivisions. Vice Chair Brown felt this will not change the building capacity of the
property. Commissioner Powell spoke about transportation impacts and that they can build as
many overnights as they want — they just can't currently go below 2:1. The current ratio is an
economic barrier that has to be crossed in order to have another destination resort. If you
lower that barrier, are we encouraging more resorts? When you saturate an area, and if the
true economic incentive comes from young entrepreneurs who would like to use outside
amenities, and you saturate that with tourists, will the locals move somewhere else, like what is
happening in Aspen? Vice Chair Brown felt that it was a different type of area — Deschutes
County is much more spread out and varied.
Commissioner Criss and Will discussed the maximum density per acre. Commissioner Palcic
commended Commissioner Powell on his starting of the discussion.
Motion: Commissioner Turner motioned to forward TA -13-1 to the Board with a
recommendation of approval. Seconded by Vice Chair Brown. Vote was tied.
Commissioner Powell noted that Chair Rainey, who is not here this evening, was in favor of
the amendment.
Commissioner Turner said he would like to make it clear that members of the Commission
who testify before the Board or other groups in Salem are representing themselves and not
the Planning Commission.
Will indicated that the Board will hear TA -12-3 on April 15.
V. PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF COMMENTS
Nick mentioned the reception for candidates for County Administrator next week.
VI. ADJOURN
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned.
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