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Minutes of Board of Commissioners’ Work Session Wednesday, September 5, 2012
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Deschutes County Board of Commissioners
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MINUTES OF WORK SESSION
DESCHUTES COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 5, 2012
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Present were Commissioners Anthony DeBone, Alan Unger and Tammy Baney.
Also present were Erik Kropp, Interim County Administrator; Sheriff Larry
Blanton; Ken Hales, Community Corrections; Susan Ross, Property &
Facilities; David Givans, Internal Auditor; Mark Pilliod, County Counsel; Joe
Stutler and Ed Keith, Foresters; seven members of the Sheriff’s Office and
several other citizens including media representative Erik Hidle of the Bulletin .
Chair DeBone opened the meeting at 1:30 p.m.
1. Update on On-Site Employee Health Clinic.
Dave McLarnen, Executive Director; Curtis Smith, Executive Vice President,
and Philip Seger, Founder of MedCor came before the Board.
David Inbody said that the current contract is expiring and they went out to bid.
There were four bidders plus the current provider, HealthStat. The process was
significantly better this time around. The panel reduced the number to two plus
HealthStat. They did on site visits, and a thorough background check. The
sense was the connection with MedCor was significantly better, and they have
long established relationships with other organizations. They clearly identified
what they can and cannot do.
Ms. Connor stated that MedCor was her first choice when the clinic first
opened. Erik Kropp said the next formal action would to bring a
recommendation to the Board.
Commissioner Baney asked about the types of services and how those would be
different; and what things they do not do. Mr. Smith said they do not anticipate
a lot of changes in the patient to provider relationship. A good job has been
done getting a clinic started.
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Much of what they bring to the table is behind the scenes efficiencies, so that
more resources are delivered to the patients. There is a high level of
automation, feedback and reporting loops and accountability. They do not think
a huge change will be seen, but steady improvement will.
Ms. Connor indicated they will not be taking away services, but just do not
over-promise. Mr. Inbody added that most companies are ready to promise
anything, but they may not be able to deliver.
Mr. Smith stated that the vetting process was very thorough. They want to
make it clear they will not be everyone’s medical home. There are good
community resources available, and they hope to collaborate. They want to
move forward the health risk appraisals and other programs.
Commissioner Unger asked how the 3,000 insureds through the County
compares to others. Mr. Smith stated that they have a wide range of clients.
They have an obligation to provide health care. Target Company has 300,000
employees; some are stand-alone like the San Diego Zoo with 5,000 employees.
The 2,000-5,000 range per clinic is typical to them.
Mr. Seger added that they try to customize things. They realize health care is
local and varies according to the group and situation. There is no cookie-cutter
approach due to the numerous variations.
2. Jail Expansion Discussion.
Sheriff Blanton explained that they moved forward with finalizing some interim
plans for the jail expansion project, based on an August 6 conversation with the
Board. They investigated competitive bids to come up with firmer numbers.
Susan Ross stated that they came up with two cost estimates of $7.8 million and
$8.1 million. An estimated contingency amount was added, for specialized
equipment for the control room, medical facilities, sewer improvements and
SDC’s, resulting in a total project amount of about $10 million.
There would be $350,000 in SDC’s and permits. On the previous project, it
was about $500,000. Therefore, this amount was pro-rated based on a scaled
down project.
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Commissioner Unger asked about servicing the bonds. Ms. Ross computed a
25 and 30 year bond; $633,000 for 25 years; $573,000 for 30 years. The overall
cost of the bonding process is about $100,000.
The interest rate assumption is 4%. This number won’t be firm until the bonds
are sold. This is a conservative estimate, likely higher than it will be.
Chair DeBone envisions this will be rolled into the general fund; some
buildings will be rolling out of bonds and other things may be included. Mr.
Kropp stated the current jail had a bond at 13 cents based on assessed value,
then it goes down to 9 cents; then to nothing. Ms. Ross stated that those were
voted on. This would be full faith and credit but not a tax increase. As elected
representatives, the Board can make this decision.
In regard to the medical unit, it is in existing space in th e jail and will be
remodeled. Sheriff Blanton stated there would be an expansion of the current
space. Ms. Ross said this would cost about $360,000. Sheriff Blanton stated
that some would be used for medical segregation and mental health care. Mike
Espinosa explained that remodeling the dorms frees up some additional space.
Ms. Ross stated they need to have cells that are ADA accessible.
Commissioner Baney said she did not understand the concept of jail beds, but
now knows more about the classifications needed. There are a variety of issues
such as mental health, chronic health problems, etc. You have to have not just a
number of beds but also the right kind of beds. Sheriff Blanton stated that there
are risk management issues to deal with every day.
Chair DeBone said that $10 million had been discussed and that appears to be
where it sits. It is an enclosed facility and more secure, rather than utilizing a
different building.
Commissioner Baney noted that the conversation of jail expansion has go ne on
since 2006. The question is what they have now and what is needed, and what
can be paid off. A building discussed several times was the juvenile facility. It
is secure and underutilized, and is not at its potential. It is not at capacity due to
efforts towards restorative justice, keeping the population low. Deschutes
County is known nationally for its work in this regard, and is a model for
keeping these numbers low.
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She said she can’t go forward in good faith at this time to support the jail
expansion. She wonders if there is something in place that can be used instead
for juveniles. The discussion involves keeping the juvenile facilities to cover
needs for many years. The cost associated to run the juvenile facility is not
commiserate with the number of juveniles. The conversation goes to a policy
direction regarding juvenile offenders. They have never had this conversation
that she recalls during the past six years.
There is an opportunity to acknowledge this hard work and look at options. She
knows this is not a perfect situation for the Sheriff’s Office.
Chair DeBone stated this conversation was expected but they have not talked
about this as a Board before now. The worst thing that could happen is to not
let people know they have done good work. This is about what is there and
what is needed.
Mr. Hales said the objective is to increase jail capacity for immediate and future
needs. It has to be efficient to operate. Another objective is to have Juvenile
needs met as efficiently as possible. Commissioner Baney said she couldn’t
answer the juvenile question. She wants to know where this is going for the
next twenty years regarding facilities.
Mr. Hales stated he can provide expert analysis on what the population trend s
might be, descriptions of programs and services such as mental health, logistics
that impact the court (satellite or not), and the cost to build a facility if needed.
Commissioner Baney asked about ideas for the juvenile facility. She feels that
part juvenile and part adult won’t work. That is a lot of change for not much
gain.
Ms. Ross said using the juvenile detention facility would provide about 88 beds
for adults. The Sheriff would have to close down minimum security as he can’t
operate in three locations. They looked at options of splitting the space but it
won’t be efficient for the Sheriff’s Office. They also looked at opening up the
downtown former juvenile facility, which would accommodate seven or eight
beds maximum. The basic space and code requirements can be met.
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There would need to be a minor remodel, adding a control room and more
electronics and hardware. It was constructed originally for juvenile medium
security purposes. They looked at swapping juvenile facility with minimum
security (the work center). It is not suitable for that. All options were
investigated.
Commissioner Baney asked about the average daily population. In the short-
run, they are contracting beds with other jurisdictions to offset costs. The
priority is the juveniles. Average daily numbers for mandated is about seven.
Mr. Hales said when school starts, the number changes and goes up. They have
to analyze this more. The trend has been in the low teens. He commented that
it is true the size of the cells meet standards. The size of the day room is right,
but it is a sub-standard facility. There is no classroom, no office for mental
health, no visiting room, just the basics. There is no natural light except in a
few locations. It has a number of drawbacks.
Court is also a problem since satellite court is elsewhere. There is a staffing
issue for this. There is no classification opportunity, no mental health room,
and they would have to kick out visitors to do intake. It might have the minimal
required size and be brought up to Code, there will be no room for programs. It
would only have seven beds and they would have to triage if they got more.
Commissioner Baney said that there is an issue with these things and she does
not want the juveniles hitched with the same situation where they are. The
facility needs to be right sized. They will have either jail issues or juvenile
issues.
Mr. Hales stated that there are two needs to satisfy. Do you do both or just one?
What is the preferred solution to take care of the needs? This has to be pursued.
It all costs money.
Commissioner Baney stated the juveniles cost about $250,000 each. There are
25 FTE for the detention facility. In the short term, they may need to triage.
They need a vision to get closer to lower operational costs and a smaller
facility.
Mr. Hales would like a new facility, which would be perfect. Operational costs
moving to the other site may save a few FTE. The jail would have to increase
FTE's to operate a second location. It won't provide capacity for either group,
and won't be efficient either way.
Commissioner Baney said the best use is not the work center. If that was closed
and the juvenile facility used, staff could be transferred over. Sheriff Blanton
stated that over time, whether 144 beds or more juveniles, no matter how the
space is used, there might need to be more staff to handle more population.
That would not happen immediately.
Commissioner Baney said there needs to be a policy discussion regarding the
juveniles. Restorative justice principles have had a positive impact. Another
option is that some counties are getting out ofjuvenile detention altogether.
There are only ten in Oregon. Perhaps they could contract beds rather than
having a facility. She sees short-term pain but wants to look at this as a viable
option.
Commissioner Unger feels that the committee looked at these things carefully.
A path to move forward was found. He is okay with revisiting these. A short
period of time might be appropriate to reevaluate. However, this should not
take a long time.
Mr. Kropp stated that there are the capital costs and operations. One approach
is to look at the options and fill in the blanks. Look at a new juvenile facility
both ways as well.
Commissioner Baney said that they need to decide whether to contract beds,
and how much area or pods are needed. The overhead is high. She wondered
how many are mandated or what classification is needed. Mr. Hales said if
there is no detention center someone has to drive three hours.
Sheriff Blanton stated he is tired of pitching things around. They have had to
use mattresses on the floor, with high liability, and no mental health facility. It
costs $36,500 a year for an adult inmate, $250,000 for a juvenile. He has put
his personal and professional life on the line, stressing quality of life issues, not
turning out people when they should not go out, and over time matrixed 1,000
people when the levy failed. Some of those should have been released.
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Chair DeBone said there is a problem with the cost of juveniles. Long-term
costs and problems at the jail is the main driver. He sees the $10 million
expense. Operations can be controlled, and it would not be multi-site. He’d
rather be clear about building it. In the scale of things, is $10 million
appropriate. How long will this carry things. He does see doing the building
project but there are some big issues. He is glad there is a positive trend with
juveniles, but that’s a different issue.
Commissioner Baney said that it will be closer to $15 million with the long-
term cost of money. Chair DeBone stated they have been asked to support this
for a lot of reasons. The number is known and the need is there. He does not
want to change course.
Commissioner Unger asked if this decision needs to be made today. A lot of
this is new information. He feels it is more cost effective to do what has been
proposed; however, he is not clear on the juvenile facility part. It may be an
opportunity to use some of this information. He wants to think it through and
bring it up in a week.
Commissioner Baney said that a meeting would have to be on Tuesday
afternoon.
Sheriff Blanton asked what will be discussed next week. They need 144 beds.
They worked hard to come up with a plan that is acceptable to law enforcement
in the area. They have to make decisions about other things based on this. It
has been stalled for too long and they have run out of options to protect
inmates, the public and employees. Judges are called all the time to get
conditional releases. Part of the frustration is thinking there is just an
inconvenience when it is serious. He wants to know, are they getting 144 beds
or not. The juvenile issue is not his issue.
Commissioner Baney said the problem is the operation of two facilities. Chair
DeBone said it involves a scenario of using part of the juvenile space. Ms. Ross
said the minimum facility would have to be closed. Sheriff Blanton stated that
the bottom floor of juvenile could be used but he would have to close the work
center. He would not add staff at that point. There are 90 beds in the work
center, which is too many, but they need the space. He said he will take
whatever he can get.
Commissioner Baney said the recreation area might hold beds. A long-term
decision might be to close one recreation area and use it for beds. Sheriff
Blanton said there may be some potential out of ADA space. When the jail
study began in 2005, the Omni Group tried to determine what might suit jail
needs. The work group looked at this space again.
Mr. Hales stated they want the best long-term solution. The 144-bed expansion
is the best solution for the Sheriffs Office. If there has to be a right sizing of
juvenile, they can look at that, but it still is not the best solution for the Sheriff.
Sheriff Blanton said that no one can do anything until something is decided. By
spring, they may be able to start work. This is an interim phased approach to
the bigger Omni master plan. There is risk now. They are not adding on to
laundry, the kitchen or booking. This just talks about beds. This work is
already 18 months away. Every delay flies in the face of safety.
Chair DeB one likes the idea of the package after looking at it. This is the
cleanest solution.
Commissioner Baney stated she is not willing to spend $15 million as long as
the problem with Juvenile exists. She has supported all of the prevention
programs. Every budget looks at making Juvenile run leaner. Mr. Hales said
he is sensitive to this. Sometimes there is more than can be accommodated in
one pod but too few to fill two. One pod won't work because of variables.
That has less adverse impact on the justice center. They have the counseling
space, booking and other necessary spaces. If they move out, they have lost
capacity if needed.
The best he can say now about contracting with others is that it would be seven
now, but it was thirteen this time last year. It could go up to that again this fall.
Most are there pre-trial. Some are awaiting placement. He would estimate no
lower than twelve average. You don't build for the smallest number. So far
sentenced would be seven, but a year ago it was thirteen.
Sheriff Blanton said that there is 2417 staffing necessary in the Sheriffs Office,
Juvenile and 911. It is going to take so many staff regardless of how many
inmates. Law enforcement is expensive. There is a point when you can only
get so lean. They have fifteen a shift, but usually just twelve are there due to
court, vacations and other issues.
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Mr. Hales suggested two alternatives to make things less expensive. They
could rent more vacant beds out or close a pod. He is not ready to pull the plug
on the pod. You can’t lay off that many people, though, as staffing has to be at
a certain level..
Commissioner Unger said he understands the frustration. He is where Chair
DeBone is. The 144 beds makes sense. They look at how they need to spend
money and have not been able to discuss this completely. He wants this
continued until next Tuesday. Commissioner Baney feels this is needed.
Sheriff Blanton asked what will be decided. Commissioner Unger said he has
not been a part of the committee and needs to do some due diligence. He wants
to be sure this is the right way to do it.
Commissioner Baney is concerned about the expense of Juvenile, and she wants
to do just what is mandated. They could contract with another facility.
Mr. Hales stated if there is no detention center, there would be no place for the
kids to go when brought in. Jefferson County brings them to Deschutes. This
is the only detention center on this side of the mountains. Redmond or Bend
Police Department would have to travel 3 hours each way. They’d have to
negotiate capacity at other facilities, some of which are going to be full.
Logistics are difficult.
Sheriff Blanton stated that they are renting jail beds now, and this can change.
It is also expensive. You can’t count on someone else to house needs. He
asked again what they will talk about on Tuesday. He does not want to attend
another meeting just to kick things the same things around.
Commissioner Unger said the beds are needed but they need to figure out how
to handle this, including Juvenile. If one Commissioner has an issue with
something, this should be accommodated. One week is not too much to ask.
Commissioner Baney said the committee did not talk about Juvenile much,
which is why she is bringing this up now.
Sheriff Blanton said he hopes Tuesday will mean a decision whether to move
forward.
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Commissioner Unger is not clear on how the Juvenile situation will be handled.
He does not take the $10 million decision lightly. He wants to consider this but
evidently Juvenile is now part of the equation. He wants to look at this for a
few days since he came to this part of the discussion cold today.
If Juvenile moves back to the old facility, it is a step backwards and is
inadequate, and does not function well. He wants to learn more, though. He
wondered if there might be a cost savings by using part of the current juvenile
area. He wants a little time to make a sound decision. It was clear to him until
this issue was raised.
Commissioner Baney feels this needs to be fully vetted. The Committee did not
discuss it much, and this option was not brought up. Sheriff Blanton said some
plans for Juvenile were brought in but were from one end of the spectrum to the
other. Commissioner Unger wants all to be on the same page.
Mr. Kropp said that if the Board wants to move forward, they should discuss
options. Then they need to approve a resolution to go forward with selling
bonds.
3. Other Items.
Joe Stutler said that OEM is offering some funding for administrative costs due
to budget classification adjustments. More funding was thrown in to transfer
the oversight to the Oregon Department of Forestry from Oregon Emergency
Management. They had a conference call today to confirm this. Their role was
clarified, and there will be an intergovernmental agreement between OEM and
ODF. ODF and the County are working on this now. The relationship will
allow the County to get funding; some would go to Crook and Klamath
Counties under an intergovernmental agreement. OEM’s only role will be to
write a check.
There are some other questions, such as up-front funding and a timeline. The
letter from the County as subgrantee to FEMA and OEM clarifies the intent and
relationship. FEMA would be the responder. The answers need to be in print.
The 2007 grant has been reconciled and finance should handle it. The 2008
grant has been submitted, and Mr. Stutler feels it should go through since the
contested 10: 1 ratio has been approved.
UNGER: Move approval of the letter.
BANEY: Second.
VOTE: UNGER: Yes.
BANEY: Yes.
DEBONE: Chair votes yes.
Regarding a request for the reading of a proclamation, Oregon Days of Culture,
it was declined as there did not appear to be a local sponsor and the request
seemed to be sent out en masse.
County College starts next Tuesday. Mr. Kropp, Anna Johnson and Chair
DeB one developed the agenda, which was then reviewed. They hope to get
people thinking, especially on the basis of running the County like a business,
and give examples. One exercise is to come up examples where this is being
done and how or when it can't be done under public law.
Another is to explain how the State and County function, what services they
provide, and how and when they can work together.
Commissioner Baney said that the City of La Pine wants to rename Highway 97
through the city in honor of Ashton Eaton, Olympian who used to live in La
Pine. The Olympic Committee said that they did not have the permission of
ODOT. This is being pursued.
Mr. Kropp said he is ready for a press release with the five candidates for
County Administrator listed. All have agreed to interviews. Background
checks are in process.
Executive Session, under ORS 192.660(2)(b), a personnel issue and (e), real
property negotiations
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Being no further discussion, the meeting adjourned at 5:20 p.m.
DATED this ?-~~ Day of ~k . 2012 for the
Deschutes County Board of Commissioners:
Anthony DeB one, CHhir
Alan Unger, Vice Chair
ATTEST:
issionerTammy Baney, Co ~~
Recording Secretary
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Deschutes County Board of Commissioners
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WORK SESSION AGENDA
DESCHUTES COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
1 :30 P.M., WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 5,2012
1. Update on On-Site Employee Health Clinic -Dave Inbody, Ronda Connor
2. Jail Expansion Discussion
3. Other Items
Executive Session, under ORS 192.660(2)(e), real property negotiations
PLEASE NOTE: At any time during this meeting, an executive session could be called to address issues relating to ORS 192.660(2) (e), real
property negotiations; ORS 192.660(2) (h), litigation; ORS I 92.660(2)(d), labor negotiations; or ORS 192 .660(2) (b), personnel issues.
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TO: BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
FROM: DAVE INBODY & RONDA CONNOR
SUBJECT: ON~SITE EMPLOYEE HEALTH CLINIC
DATE: 8/3112012
l CC: ERIK KROPP I
Background on Deschutes Onsite Clinic (DOC) 1 On February 3, 2011, the Deschutes Onsite Clinic (DOC) began providing health care for
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J County employees and their families at no cost. Instead of relying on the fee-for~service
model for delivery of health care services, an organization was contracted to operate the
DOC for a monthly administrative fee with all other costs being passed through to the
County. The notion is that such a model allows the County to save the health benefits
plan expenses provided an adequate number of patients are seen at the DOC. Since the
costs are fixed, the more patients seen at the DOC, the more savings are incurred by the
DOC.
Healthstat, Inc., based out of Charlotte, North Carolina, was selected to operate the DOC.
The primary reasons the selection committee gave for selecting Healthstat to operate the
DOC were their experience with clinics similar to the model Deschutes County had in
mind and their having established clinics for other city and county governments. A two
year contract was signed with Healthstat.
Initial estimates indicated that Deschutes County could feasibly breakeven within the first
year and experience annual savings of at least $250,000. The DOC actually broke even in
eight months and, saved the County $534,415 in the first 18 months. Employees saved
$258,583 during the same time period. The DOC had 7,399 office visits, conducted 4,228
labs and wrote 6,615 prescriptions, 2,569 of which were filled at the DOC's
pharmaceutical dispensary in the first 18 months. The DOC saw 1,399 different patients
at least once, representing about half of all covered lives on the health benefits plan, and
about 70% of all employees.
2012 RFP Process
With the Healthstat contract expiring on December 31, 2012, an RFP process was
initiated in June 2012 for operation of the DOC. Although the County had the option to
extend the existing contract with Healthstat, it was believed to be in the best interest of
the County to compare the current fees and service delivery to other vendors in the field.
Eight proposals were received in response to the RFP. A committee was formed to
review the proposals and provide a recommendation to the Board of Commissioners for
approval. The committee consisted of the following members:
• Ronda Connor -Health Benefits Coordinator, responsible for overseeing the
DOC
• Dave Inbody Assistant to the County Administrator, responsible for overseeing
the DOC
• Erik Kropp -Deputy County Administrator
• Timm Schimke Director of Solid Waste and Employee Benefits Advisory
Committee Chair
• Kate Moore -Program Manager in Health Services Department and Registered
Nurse
• Therese Madrigal -County Wellness Coordinator
• Jennifer Floyd -Senior Web Applications Developer in the Information
Technology Department and member of the Employee Benefits Advisory
Committee
• Kelly Elzner Employee of Central Oregon Intergovernmental Council
After reviewing the proposals, the committee selected five vendors to make
presentations. Through this process, two additional vendors were eliminated. The
remaining vendors were Medcor of Chicago, CareHere of Nashville and Healthstat.
Medcor and CareHere were provided follow-up questions, current and former clients
were contacted, conference calls were scheduled and site visits were made to examine
each vendor in greater detail. This resulted in Medcor being selected unanimously to
operate the DOC. Some of the reasons identified by the committee for selecting Medcor
were the commitment they placed on building a strong relationship with the County, a
clear explanation of the services they can and cannot provide, an understanding of the
County's vision for the DOC, and the consistent and attentive service provided to their
current clients.
Transition Plan
During the next three months, the County will work closely with both Healthstat and
Medcor to transition operation of the DOC. Medcor provided a detailed transition plan as
part of their proposal (attached). Through the RFP process, the committee identified
several components of the transition that will be critical to its success. Continuity with
staff, hours of operation and services provided will be imperative to ensure employees'
health care needs are still being met. A transfer of electronic medical records will also be
necessary. Fortunately, both Healthstat and Medcor use NextGen as their EMR software,
which should make the process run more smoothly. Finally, communication with
employees regarding the transition will be important. Medcor will meet with departments
to introduce themselves and their philosophy for operating the DOC.
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MEMORANDUM
DATE: September 10,2012
TO: Dennis Sigrist, Oregon OEM; Jeffrey Markham, FEMA RIO;
Chris Jonietz-Trisler, FEMA RIO
FROM: Deschutes County BOCC
RE: 2010 FEMAlOEM Pre-Disaster Mitigation Grants for Deschutes,
Crook and Klamath Counties
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Thank you for the email correspondence regarding the proposed resolution of the issues
associated with the pre-disaster mitigation grant for our counties. We are pleased that the
Oregon Office of Emergency Management and FEMA recognize the "high risk" potential for
wildland fire and the proven track record in central Oregon of providing mitigation through both
education and fuels treatment.
Based on the three proposed solutions offered, we accept the alternatives and are looking for
clarification and direction on both how to proceed and the timeliness.
1. The current 2010 Deschutes County wildfire project is PDMC-PJ-10-0R-2010-oo1"2010
Central Oregon Wildfire Mitigation" for a Federal Share of $2,882,350 and nonfederal share of
$1,048,950 =total project cost of $3,931,300. The project is cost shared at approximately 73.3%
and 26.7% (with some rounding taking place). Response: We agree with the proposed numbers
and percentages.
2. FEMA HQ is allowing the subapplication to be amended to allow the subgrantee (Deschutes
County) to maximize the available 5% subgrantee management costs. The cost estimate does
not appear to include subgrant management costs for Deschutes County. If the Region confirms
that the subapplication does not include subgrantee management costs then the county is
allowed to add $117,650.00 to the Federal share of the project cost making the Federal share of
the project $3,000,000 (the Federal share CANNOT exceed $3,000,000 for anyone
subapplication/subgrant). The total project costs would also need to be modified showing the
nonfederal share for subgrantee management costs. The cost estimate from the subapplication
is below. PLEASE NOTE that FEMA is highly encouraging the subapplicant to include the 5%
maximum management costs to allow them to do the best management job possible.
Response: We will amend the subapplication to reflect the management costs and will need
assistance to submit the amendment. Specifically, is the amendment forwarded to Oregon
OEM or directly to FEMA R-l0? We are assuming that Dennis Sigrist (OR-OEM) and Jeffrey
Markham (FEMA R-l0) will remain our contact, is that correct?
3. FEMA HQ is allowing the State of Oregon to submit a state management cost subapplication
up to 10% of the total project cost of PDMC-PJ-l0-0R-2010-oo1 "2010 Central Oregon Wildfire
Mitigation". FEMA has determined that due to the "high risk" designation being placed on
Deschutes County'" that special consideration should be made to allow the submission of a State
management costs subapplication although it is not customary for FEMA to allow the
submission of a new subapplication after the application deadline. The Federal share for the
State management costs subapplication would be expected to be $300,000 if the State chooses
to submit the sub-application. "'(OEM:djs -largely driven by the mitigation activity and footprint
of the overall project; it would be appropriate to discuss opportunities w / ODF in a collaborative
way for a significant piece of the management costs). Response: Deschutes County has
worked with the Oregon Department of Forestry at the local District and State levels and ODF
is agreeable to this alternative. Additionally, there is a conference call scheduled with the
principals (OEM, ODF and Deschutes County) on September 5,2012. The primary purpose is
to again understand how the application can be amended, who will take the lead, timing of
the application, and most importantly the role/relationship between OEM, ODF and the
counties implementing the grant.
Cost Estimate from PDMC-PJ-l0-0R-2010-001 "2010 Central Oregon Wildfire Mitigation"
300.2 -Vegetation Management -Wildfire Federal Share: $ 2,882,350.00
Forester Wages
Contractual Personnel 570.00 Hour $ 35.00 $19,950.00
Project Wildfire
Coordinator
Contractual Contractual 1.00 Each
$
21,375.00
$ 21,375.00
Deschutes County
Forester Benefits
Contractual
Fringe
Benefits
570.00 Hour $17.50 $ 9,975.00
Property Owners
and RFPA In-Kind
Contribution
Contractual
Other (In-Kind
Time/labor)
3,150.00 Acre $ 333.00
$
1,048,950.00
Vegetation
Removal Contract
labor -Private
Contractual Contractual 3,150.00 Acre $ 667.00
$
2,101,050.00
land
Crook County
Project
Coordination and
Contractual Contractual 1.00 Each $
50,000.00
$ 50,000.00
Support
Klamath County
Project $
Contractual Contractual 1.00 Each $ 50,000.00
Coordination and 50,000.00
Support
Vegetation
** Once we receive direction on how to amend the application and add the suggested
Removal Contract $
Contractual Contractual 630.00 Acre
labor -Public 1,000.00
land
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management and grant administration costs, the total costs and appropriate categories will be
added to budget.
Additionally, the counties have other questions and a few specific requests as we proceed:
1. When will the Environmental Assessment process begin in order to expedite the work
on the ground?
2. Is there an opportunity to draw up front money against the grant value rather than
100% reimbursement after work has been completed?
3. What are the specific monitoring requirements for "sweat equity" work performed by
property owners?
4. Will the 10 cubic yards equivalent to 1 acre treated still be a viable metric in the 2010
grant?
5. SpeCifically how do we proceed, or what is the process for amending the application for
inclusion of management cost for both Deschutes County and the Oregon Department
of Forestry? Who takes the lead and what is the CountyjODF jOEMjrole with this
process?
6. Before, during the and after the environmental assessment work is complete, it will be
imperative for FEMA, ODF, OEM and the counties to meet face to face and agree on the
following:
a. The exact environmental footprint and project areas.
b. Process for scope of work revisions for on-ground accomplishment.
c. Specific monitoring requirement for the soft match from sweat equity work
performed by property owners.
We appreciate the willingness of FEMA and OEM working with the counties to resolve the issues
associated with the 2010 Grant. Joe Stutler will continue to be the lead and point of contact for
Deschutes County on this issue until the EA's are complete and agreements are in place before
the work begins.
Sincerely,
Anthony De Bone
Chair, Deschutes County Board of County Commissioners