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MINUTES OF WORK SESSION
DESCHUTES COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 23, 2011
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Present were Commissioners Tammy Baney, Alan Unger and Tony DeBone. Also
present were Dave Kanner, County Administrator; Erik Kropp, Deputy County
Administrator; and, for a portion of the meeting, Tracy Scott, Personnel; George
Read, Terri Payne and Nick Lelack, Community Development; and Laurie
Craghead, County Counsel. Also in attendance was media representative Hillary
Borrud of The Bulletin and eight other citizens.
Chair Baney opened the meeting at 1:35 p.m.
1. Discussion of Endorsement of National Career Readiness Certificate.
This item was presented last week but the Commissioners wanted some time to
review the information.
Commissioner Unger supports the program, as he feels it would help with
making placements more successful. He added that having a diploma by itself
does not necessarily mean the person can do what the job requires. This can
help the employer and potential employee come up with the best match.
Chair Baney feels as long as it is non-discriminatory, she supports the effort.
She would want to revisit it if a fee is attached later.
Commissioner DeBone said that he feels it is an unnecessary layer of intrusion
and does not support it.
UNGER: Move support of the program and endorsement of the certificate.
BANEY: Second.
VOTE: UNGER: Yes.
DEBONE: No. (Split vote.)
BANEY: Chair votes yes.
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Erik Kropp said the County could announce that the NCRC is welcome and
people are encouraged to apply. It could also be offered to employees who
might want this kind of training, but on their own time.
2. Comprehensive Plan Review.
Terri Payne introduced the next part of the Comprehensive Plan review, which
deals with resource lands. The use of these lands is tightly regulated, and the
intent was originally to preserve natural resources through agricultural lands,
and for economic reasons. Urban expansion into rural areas creates conflict,
and the cost is high for infrastructure, etc. There is also a loss of open space
and natural beauty. Incentives were encouraged to mitigate the impacts to the
property owners.
Goal 3 required an inventory of farmland. Soil classes in eastern Oregon are 1
through 6, but the Goal talks about other lands not suitable for agricultural or
property that impact nearby farmland. In 1979, the County did not classify all
lands, but looked at what was being irrigated. If it was not already platted or
developed, and was not forest land, the remaining land was classified as
agricultural. In 1992, a study was done and it was found that irrigation made
the difference, so seven new subzones were developed. The State requires a
minimum of 80 acres for farmland and 160 for grazing, but the County has a
few subzones that are below the requirement for minimum lot size.
Nick Lelack said that a lot of people from other areas point out the difference
and question why the County would want to have properties even smaller in
size.
Ms. Payne stated that the climate and altitude have a lot to do with things as
well. Farming in this area cannot be competitive.
Public input was obtained from large acreage commercial farmers, who say
farming is not profitable in this area. Some had been trying to do so for years.
Small farmers asked for more flexibility in the use of their land. The income
test for farm help is a factor. There is not a lot of support for what they want to
do. Hobby farmers like to grow their own food and like the open space, but it is
not profitable.
The Planning Commission was very involved in this phase and some want to
rethink totally how this is handled. However, legally there is not a lot of
flexibility.
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The policies look first at meeting State requirements. It may be possible for
someone to come in and prove their land is not suitable for agricultural and get
the zoning changed. Supplemental activities were analyzed as well. Agri-
tourism may be one way to supplement farm uses.
Legislation was passed last session that allows people to amend mapping errors.
It has to be done in conjunction with DLCD.
Chair Baney asked how to defend the policies that are decided upon. Ms.
Payne stated it would be the applicant’s responsibility to state that the land was
not accurately mapped. Mr. Lelack stated that it could cost thousands of dollars
just for the process, not including whatever has to be paid to specialists. If the
County initiates the change, there would be less cost involved.
Dave Kanner asked about policy 2.29. Ms. Payne said this does not include
events but other agricultural uses. There is no policy included to support a
study of private parks or events. Mr. Lelack said this is the time and place to
investigate this issue. Commissioner Unger asked about MUA zoning. Ms.
Payne said MUA is considered rural residential. She is not sure of the exact
differences between RR-10 and MUA-10, but knows that MUA counts more
towards residential than agricultural.
Mr. Lelack stated that this is the first county to try to come up with a definition
of agri-tourism. A legislative concept is being discussed at the State level, but
has probably not been introduced. The use would have to be subordinate to the
agricultural use.
Commissioner Unger noted that the ‘big look’ did not get the attention it
needed. He asked if the idea is still viable. Mr. Lelack said that the idea of
allowing counties more flexibility did not make it into the newer version. In
regard to farm worker housing, there are a lot of restrictions under State law.
Commissioner Unger asked how they could help to support generational
farming and keep families on farms. Ms. Payne said that an additional
residence might be allowed, but the criteria are very inflexible. The biggest
issue is that no one can seem to make a profit by farming. The money
generated locally from farming is a small amount compared to other uses of the
land. LUBA has determined that profitability is not a factor in how the land is
used. However, it is hard to not consider economic viability when building this
document.
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Mr. Lelack said that there are a lot of factors to consider, such as the poor soils,
the rocks, and the necessity for irrigation. Ms. Payne said the State wants to
preserve agricultural land in whatever form. There is only so much that can be
done. Mr. Lelack would like to see more flexibility regarding how people can
use their farmland, to keep the land in or available for agricultural use.
Commissioner Unger stated that success is measured by economics within
cities. Ms. Payne replied that the counties are supposed to protect the resources
and support agriculture. The public emphasized that they can only make a
living if they have outside work. State law got very detailed when lobbying
occurred and someone got specific wording put into law. These changes do not
always assist the local farming community. The focus should be how to help
farmers be successful within the confinements of the law.
Commissioner Unger asked if the last twenty years were examined to see if
change is needed. In the debate, a lot of the language was softened to allow
more consideration of potential uses. This is something on which the Board has
already taken a stand.
In regard to forestlands, the language came out mostly from agricultural rules.
Chair Baney said she is hesitant to include language related to Skyline Forest.
Ms. Payne indicated there was a lot of debate when the Skyline Forest
Authority was formed in recent years. Chair Baney asked if it is necessary for
this specific language to be in the Comprehensive Plan. A lot of the language
talks about coordinating and cooperating, but it might not be beneficial. Mr.
Lelack said that it was hard to get agreement within the Planning Commission
as well. He thought they could shorten up the language and be a little more
vague if that would help.
Commissioner Unger asked about the challenges of weeds, and locations such
as the Lower Bridge dicolite mining site. He feels a management plan is
needed.
Ms. Payne said there are two goals that affect water resources; Goal 5 for
wetlands and Goal 6 for land, air and water quality. Goal 6 says that local
entities are tasked with making sure there is no pollution. It is not very specific.
It is the longest chapter and there are a number of issues tied to it. Most of the
debate was on the role of the County, although there was a fair amount of
agreement. Ms. Craghead added that the focus is mostly on the Deschutes
River basin, but there are other locations as well.
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Section 2.5.5 encourages conservation on the part of the County, mostly by
setting an example. Section 2.5.18 has to do with south County; identifying
water quality problems, sewers and similar issues.
Section 2.5.25 has to do with intergovernmental agreements with irrigation
districts and others. They want to know about potential lot line adjustments and
other changes to the land since it can affect how they use their systems.
Mr. Lelack stated that a lot of input has come in from nonprofits and others who
want support when they apply for grants or other funding.
Section 2.6 refers to wildlife, a Goal 5 resource. There is a wildlife combining
zones for migration, animal ranges, and specific sites. The Oregon Department
of Fish & Wildlife was asked for an up to date inventory. They talked to
federal fish & wildlife and the BLM, and put together a consolidated report. It
has been somewhat controversial. The initial idea was to update the inventory
during the comprehensive plan process. The County will have to review
ordinances to make sure they are well coordinated. Fish & Wildlife recommend
adding the spotted frog found along the rivers. The Planning Commission
wanted to ignore the study and felt that these agencies should not be giving
recommendations. The public was divided, with concerns about sage grouse
and wildlife protection in general, but also property rights. Section 2.6.2
addresses this. The Planning Commission still does not support including the
interagency study information.
Mr. Lelack stated that the Planning Commission wanted to refer just to input
from expert sources. They are trying to look at wildlife, fire, water and road
issues. It is a shame to have expert input and not pay attention to it.
The combining zone applies usually along rivers and roads. Staff recommends
the language but the Planning Commission said it is too specific. It was left in
as a placeholder.
3. Update of Commissioners’ Meetings and Schedules.
Commissioner Unger stated that there are nine points of concern over HB 2229,
regarding the watershed council.
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