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Minutes of Board of Commissioners’ Work Session Monday, October 31, 2011
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Deschutes County Board of Commissioners
1300 NW Wall St., Suite 200, Bend, OR 97701-1960
(541) 388-6570 - Fax (541) 385-3202 - www.deschutes.org
MINUTES OF WORK SESSION
DESCHUTES COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
MONDAY, OCTOBER 31, 2011
LOCATION: Road Department, 27th Street, Bend
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Present were Commissioners Tammy Baney, Alan Unger and Anthony DeBone.
Also present were Erik Kropp, Interim County Administrator; Nick Lelack,
Community Development; George Kolb and Randy McCulley, Road Department;
Chris Bell, County Counsel; media representative Hillary Borrud of The Bulletin;
and five other citizens.
Chair Baney opened the meeting at 1:35 p.m.
1. Discussion of Wilderness Designation Areas.
Chair Baney said she sat in on the open house regarding the Whychus
Wilderness Study area. There were a lot of concerns regarding emergency
access out of Crooked River Ranch, and enforcement of the wilderness
designation. There was no compelling argument regarding how this being a
wilderness area would result in the changes the community wants. She feels
they are not at all related. She said they spoke about an emergency access road
and lining this up with a wilderness designation and BLM land, but to say you
get one with the other is not related. This is not the proper approach regarding
the access road.
Commissioner Unger said this may have to do with attempts to encourage
federal legislation, but the access road was supposed to have been supported by
the BLM and they were to help move it forward.
There are three wilderness areas proposed for the area. Commissioner Unger
said he keeps coming back to whether the BLM does a good job of maintaining
their lands today, and if there an advantage to changing the designation. He
prefers to allow for adaptability, appreciating the natural aspects and let ting the
BLM manage it as appropriate.
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Chair Baney said it takes an Act of Congress to take it out of the study area.
What is proposed is the actual wilderness designation. Commissioner Unger
stated that these study areas have been on the books for so long that the BLM is
probably trying to find ways to clean those up. They want to bring this to
closure.
Commissioner DeBone said that just being a study area locks up the land also.
He is not motivated to have a permanent designation, but likes the way it is
handled already.
Chair Baney said Joe Stutler, the County Forester wants the County to remain
more neutral. There is also a request to oppose the Whychus designation.
There needs to be transparency. She sat in the presentation by ONDA, and
would be hard pressed to change her view by a presentation, but if the Board is
going to move forward taking a position to oppose, there needs to be an open
process before that happens. Both sides of the issue need to be examined.
If the County wants to remain overarching, they can basically say no change is
needed.
Commissioner Unger said ONDA presented to the Watershed Council. He
abstained at the time but did hear their comments. He would be hard pressed to
support this, because a wilderness area could be pieced together with a lot of
private land included.
Commissioner DeBone said he was briefed last year, and he is concerned about
the farming in the area and the pressure on them to possibly change farming
practices. He feels someone who is trying to farm should be empowered to
keep doing what they are doing. He does not feel the need to open discussion
with ONDA at this point.
Commissioner Unger would like to take a stance at a higher level . Jefferson
County made the point and he does not feel Deschutes County needs to do the
same.
Chair Baney asked for decision points, either via a letter or a vote. The federal
government needs to provide more enforcement in the areas in any case. The
issues such as mud bogging, trash dumping and other problems have to be
addressed. If they are going to have rules and laws, they need to enforce them.
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Commissioner Unger stated this is an issue ever ywhere on federal property.
Even though this is a study area, it is obviously not monitored closely enough at
this time.
Commissioner DeBone said the federal government can be asked to do more,
but that is unlikely to happen. Chair Baney stated the community seems more
concerned about not necessarily a designation, but good management of the
land. Some people feel the designation will get this closer to protecting this
land. Commissioner Unger stated that the Board should talk to BLM about this
first. Commissioner DeBone wants to be sure whether the Board is even being
asked to make a decision or take a stand on this. Chair Baney stated that
Jefferson County did so, and the citizens of Crooked River Ranch are asking
Deschutes County to do the same.
Commissioner Unger indicated a letter to the BLM ahead of time would be
good in order to give them a heads up that this is a discussion point. Chair
Baney wants them to be aware of the access road situation.
Chair Baney asked if the other Commissioners are purposefully being vague
regarding the Whychus-Deschutes issue. In her experience, the Congressional
delegation tends to stay clear of anything that does not have community
support. Commissioner DeBone feels comfortable opposing a permanent
designation. Chair Baney said it is already a study area, so it won’t be locked
up as much as it would be as a designated wilderness. Commissioner DeBone
stated they need clarity on all study areas.
Commissioner Unger, in regard to Whychus, feels that the proposed wilderness
area does not mean there are strict boundaries. There are too many privately
owned parcels within the study area, making it unworkable. Chair Baney feels
there is not a lot of support for current practices because there is not much
enforcement. Commissioner Unger said there has to be a plan in place to
manage these lands, but he’d like to know what that is. Most of the land with
wilderness value is located in Jefferson County. He does not support
wilderness designations overall in the County.
Commissioner DeBone would like to indicate no support of this designation.
Chair Baney indicated it would be a good idea to talk with BLM and find out
more about their plans and practices. However, there is probably not a great
deal of support for this outside of a core area.
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2. Joint Cooperative Purchasing Membership Agreement for Road
Equipment.
Randy McCulley and George Kolb came before the Board. Mr. Kropp said
they are not looking for Board action, but wish to discuss a joint purchasing
agreement that may save the County some money.
Mr. McCulley explained that the National Joint Powers Alliance is a public
agency that has members through intergovernmental agreements.. There are
about 35,000 members in the country, so this gives national level pricing
breaks. They advertise for contracts locally and each contract would need to be
reviewed.
For example, the purchase of a motor grader would be subject to an invitation to
bid. It takes about 100 hours of time to build a contract. It is then put out to
bid, and the best value is decided upon (based on maintenance factors, local
dealership support, price, etc.). With the NJPA contract, this is handled at a
company level (not the local dealership); the structure is about the same but at a
higher level.
The County can piggyback on contracts with the State, but sometimes ends up
with more equipment than needed, or perhaps they don’t have equipment with
the same specifications available. This gives the County some freedom to stay
within specifications that make sense.
Chair Baney asked how it is determined when purchasing is the only option,
rather than leasing or sharing equipment with another entity. Mr. McCulley
said that they do share equipment with the cities . However, some equipment is
highly utilized and there is no real opportunity to share them.
George Kolb said the road study group seems primarily concerned about
operations costs, and not the purchase of specific equipment.
Chair Baney asked what happens if there is an appeal. Mr. McCulley said that
there would be no basis for an appeal to the County as long as it is properly
advertised. The manufacturer could work with the NJPA to be part of that
process. There are also agreements with other companies that may give
discounts. There is no cost to being in this program, but it does allow another
option. The normal process might be used to purchase specialty equipment that
NJPA does not handle.
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The NJPA is funded through a contract with the manufacturer. They are a
public agency and no membership dues are charged. The cities of Bend and
Salem use this process, as do many others. It is a viable way to purchase to get
what is needed.
Commissioner DeBone asked questions about servicing the various makes and
models. Mr. McCulley said they typically do some exploration before deciding
on a particular type of equipment.
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Commissioner Unger asked for feedback from Mr. McCulley and Mr. Kolb on
how the road study group is doing. Mr. Kolb has been working with Todd
Taylor, who chairs the group. He said that if there have to be cuts, it would
likely be in services, but it is difficult to decide which ones. In the private
sector employers can lay people off when there is no work. Roads are an asset
that needs to be maintained; they are not just projects. There are also labor
issues. It comes down to working on the PCI and deciding which projects to
eliminate or cut back. You cannot forecast with the PCI program, but they are
looking at the program the City of Bend is using. It may not be a free upgrade
due to the expertise needed.
Alternate funding sources need to be found. Mr. McCulley said they are
working on charging out equipment and tracking this information better. He is
relatively new to his position, but feels that everything is well utilized, based on
his experience working for an equipment dealership as a field mechanic and
service manager for about ten years.
Chair Baney said that when things are examined, you can come up with
problems but can also find that things are being done well. Mr. Kolb said there
are also safety considerations, for example, a dead deer in the road causing a
road hazard, or weeds on the parkway that can contribute to line of sight
problems. He realizes they can’t go to the public to ask for more money until
they know they have cut back whatever they can. They may end up having to
look at a lower PCI or at using different materials and technologies. For
instance, they had to get coring done that cost $900 for three core samples.
They bought a coring machine for $1,200 and it has been used more than a
dozen times, resulting in significant savings..
Mr. Kolb said he hopes the next road study group meeting will come up with
some recommendations for the Board to consider.
Commissioner Unger would like to see a unified voice and exact
considerations. Mr. Kolb would not like to see the group dissolved, but kept
intact to advise on future events or needs. Certain bridges have been tagged by
ODOT as needing some work. These must be prioritized as well as the roads.
They need to address bicycling issues as well. Commissioner Unger said that
cities have committees for this type of thing. Mr. Kolb stated they have to
realize that the roads take precedence over bike routes, even though there are
economic reasons for having good bike lanes. This is an unfunded mandate that
needs to be not only set up, but maintained over time.
3. Upcoming Meetings.
None were discussed.
4. Other Items.
Being no further discussion, at 2:40 p.m. the Board went into executive session
under ORS 291. 660(2)(h), pending or threatened litigation.
DATEDthis q~ Day of ~ 2011 for the
Deschutes County Board of Commissioners.
Tammy Ban y, Chair
Anthony DeBone, Vice Chair
ATTEST:
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Recording Secretary
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WORK SESSION AGENDA
DESCHUTES COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
i:30 P.M., MONDAY, OCTOBER 31, 2011
LOCATION: Road Department
1. Discussion of Wilderness Designation Areas
2. Joint Cooperative Purchasing Membership Agreement for Road Equipment
Road Department
3. Upcoming Meetings
4. Other Items
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property negotiatioos; ORS 192.660(2) (h), litigation; ORS 192.66O(2)(d), labor negotiations; or ORS 192.660(2) (b), personnel issues.
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Date: October 25,2011
To: Board of County Commissioners
From: Erik Kropp, Interim County Administrator
Re: Wilderness Area Designation
The Board has been asked to take a position on the proposed designation of the Whychus
Wilderness Area. Commissioners have asked to have a broader discussion about wilderness
designation areas. This item is scheduled for your October 31, 2011 work session.
Community Development Department
Planning Division Building Safety Division Environmental Soils Division
117 NW Lafayette Avenue Bend Oregon 97701-1925
(541)388-6575 FAX (541)385-1764
http://www.co.deschutes.or.us/cddj
MEMORANDUM
FROM; Terri Hansen Payne, Senior Planner
MEMO DATE: July 29, 2011
SUB..IECT: Wilderness Designations
BACKGROUND
Harney County Judge Steve Grasty has initiated a phone conference to discuss a news release
from the Bureau of land Management (BlM) inviting local governments to contact the BlM
regarding potential wilderness areas. Judge Grasty is interested in knowing which counties are
going to respond to this request and wants to discuss a strategic approach. He does not intend
this discussion to be a debate on the concept of wilderness. This memo provides some limited
background on wilderness and the areas under discussion in or adjacent to Deschutes County.
Wilderness areas are those where man and his works do not dominate, rather man is a
temporary visitor. Previous to the passage of the federal Wilderness Act in 1964, the lands
managed by the Forest Service were required to balance recreation, timber, grazing, watershed
and wildlife needs. The Wilderness Act allowed the preservation of identified untrammeled
federal lands as wilderness areas in the National Wilderness Preservation System. Originally
national forest areas with specific existing classifications were deSignated wilderness and a few
federal agencies were required to review other potential areas under their jurisdiction for
possible deSignation. In 1976 the Federal lands Policy and Management Act (FlPMA) required
the Bureau of land Management (BlM), which had not been listed in the original legislation, to
inventory road less areas for possible wilderness designation.
WILDERNESS AREAS
Wilderness areas are designated exclusively through an act of Congress and must be at
minimum 5,000 acres. They are managed by the federal agency controlling the lands when
deSignated (e.g. Forest Service or National Park Service).
Uses not permitted in wilderness areas:
• Commercial enterprises
• Permanent roads
• Temporary roads or mechanical transport (except as required to administer the lands)
• Structures or installations
Uses permitted in wilderness areas:
• Public purposes of recreational, scenic, scientific, educational, conservation and
historical use
• Non-motorized recreation, including hiking, hunting, fishing, camping, horseback riding
• Some already established prohibited uses, with restrictions
• Uses required to administer the land or for health and safety (e.g. fire or insect control)
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• Other specified uses, some site specific, have been added over time
State or private landholdings surrounded by wilderness
• Are granted access rights
• Can be traded for federal lands elsewhere in the state
• Can be purchased if the owner concurs and Congress authorizes and funds the
purchase
CENTRAL OREGON WILDERNESS STUDY AREAS
BlM Wilderness Study Areas (WSA) are those lands identified by the Bureau of land
Management as potential wilderness areas. They are generally managed to preserve
wilderness characteristics, but are not regulated as wilderness areas. The BlM is soliciting local
government input to determine which, if any, WSAs have broad local support to become
wilderness areas. WSAs with strong local support will be added to a bill the Interior Department
will propose to Congress this fall.
There appear to be three WSAs in or just outside Deschutes County. There is some interest in
adding these sites to a wilderness bill. The non-profit organization Oregon Natural Desert
Association (ONDA) has taken a leadership role in promoting one of these areas as wilderness.
• Deschutes Canyon/Steelhead Falls WSA: This area is located at the border of
Deschutes and Jefferson Counties near the Crooked River Ranch. By itself, the WSA is
3,192 acres, less than the required 5,000 acres. ONDA has created a proposal to
combine this WSA with adjoining National Forest lands for a 15,234 acre wilderness
centered on the convergence of lower Whychus Creek and the Deschutes River. ONDA
has been meeting with local landowners since 2009 to discuss this proposal and has a
community meeting set up at the Terrebonne Grange Hall on August 2 from 7-9
p.m. An editorial in the Bulletin in December, 2010 expressed some concern regarding
the proximity of the proposed wilderness to the Crooked River Ranch community and
subsequently published a guest column and a few letters to the editor in support of the
proposal.
• Hampton Butte WSAlCougar Wells WSA -two separate WSAs in Deschutes and Crook
Counties totaling 29,035 acres. ONDA recommends combining the two separate WSAs
into one protected area. There has been one letter in the Bulletin supporting this idea.
GENERAL EXPRESSIONS OF SUPPORT OR CONCERN
Support:
• Preserves special lands intact for future generations
• Promotes economic development through increased tourism
• Provides for quiet recreation and solitude
• Potentially better land management leading to a healthier ecosystem
Concerns:
• Harder to access, so may limit use to the young and healthy
• Limits economic development through prohibiting grazing, mining or timber cutting
• Prohibits off-roading
• Potentially greater fire danger because of no timber harvest
STATEWIDE WILDERNESS PROPOSALS GETTING LOCAL PRESS
• Crater lake
• Various areas around the John Day
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October 7, 2011
Deschutes County Commissioner Toney DeBone
1300 NW Wall St. Suite 200
Bend, OR 97701
Re: Opposition to Wychus-Deschutes Wilderness Proposal
Dear Mr. De Bone,
During recent Annual Elections, the property owners at Crooked River Ranch responded to a
survey regarding the Wychus-Deschutes Wildemess PrtJpOSal with 66% of those
responding voting in opposition to the proposal. In response to this vote, the Board of
Directors has unanimously passed a resolution supporting its members' opposition to the
Wilderness Proposal which is included for your review.
Also included is our press release expressing concern over the potential negative Impact a
"Wilderness" designation could have on fighting wildfire in the areas included in the proposal
adjoining Crooked River Ranch. That concern was heightened by last week's Alder Springs fire
which approached to within two miles of the Ranch. It was controlled only by timely and robust
action that we are concerned may not be allowed in a "Wilderness" designated area. Our
primary concern is for the property and safety of the residents and ranchers who reside next to
the proposed wilderness area.
We are hopeful that once you review the facts as we have, you will stand with us in opposition
to this Wilderness Designation Proposal. Please feel free to call us at Crooked River Ranch at
541-548-8939 or the Crooked River Ranch Rural Rre District Rre Chief and Board at 541-923
6776.
Sincerely,
Ben E. Johnson, President
Crooked River Ranch Club & Maintenance Association
RESOLUTION
2011-09-19
A Resolution Opposing the Proposed Whychus-Deschutes Wilderness
WHEREAS, the Crooked River Ranch Club and Maintenance Association
(Association) is a Class I Planned Community according to ORS 94.550 (3): and
WHEREAS, the Association's purpose for organization is to promote the
mutual health, safety, welfare and benefit of tts members; and
WHEREAS, the Board shall exercise for the As~ciation all powers, duties
and authority not vested in or reserved to the, membership; and
WHEREAS, in response to a written survey of the property owners of
Crooked River Ranch conducted during the 2011 annual elections of the
membership and which resulted in sixty-six percent of those responding opposed
to the creation of the proposed Whychus-Deschutes Wilderness, the Board, on
September 12. 2011 voted unanimously to support member opposition of the
proposed Whychus-Deschutes Wilderness; and
WHEREAS, the Fire Chief of the Crooked River Ranch Rural Fire District in
agreement with the Fire District Board which voted unanimously to oppose the
Wilderness proposal has stated "for the safety of Crooked River Ranch residents
and their property, Crooked River Ranch Fire & Rescue does not support turning
the proposed area into a designated wilderness area"; and
WHEREAS, the Association has a population of approximately 4,600
residents covering an area of 12,000 acres (18.75 square miles) with many
dwellings in close proximity to the proposed Whychus-Deschutes Wilderness;
and
WHEREAS, the proposed Whychus-Deschutes Wilderness is within the
three-mile wildland urban interface as defined by the Jefferson County
Community Wildfire Protection Plan, May 2011 which document has been
reviewed and approved by the Jefferson County Board of Commissioners, the
Jefferson County Fire Chief and the Department of Forestry, State of Oregon;
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, the Association and tts Board
stand in opposition to the proposed Whychus-Deschutes Wilderness.
Funke.. Resolved the Board hereby approves this resolution against
the proposed Whychus-Deschutes Wilderness as set forth, and sh~II::peG.9I1l~'··",~;",+,.:·
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PRESS RELEASE
66% of Crooked River Ranch survey responders voted NO on the Whychus
Deschutes Wilderness Proposal during August Association elections. In response,
on Sept. 19, 2011 the Board of Directors passed a resolution, and is issuing a
position letter in support of member opposition to the proposed Wilderness Area.
Of gravest concern is the ability to effectively fight wildfire in areas that border
Crooked River Ranch. For example, the Alder Springs Fire which broke out 22
September came within 2 miles of the western border of the ranch and provided
a stark reminder of that threat to all that watched its rapid progress into the night
and its reawakening two days later. We have heard the arguments from both
sides about limits on fighting fires in designated wilderness areas. But, the
bottom line is that we cannot be certain the timely and robust effort that checked
the advance of this threat to our homes would be allowed in a "Wilderness"
designated area. In concurrence with the positions of the Crooked River Ranch
Fire District Board and our Fire Chief, we believe the risk to a residential area
adjoining a Wilderness Area is too great to ignore.
Ben Johnson, Board of Directors President, Crooked River Ranch Club &
Maintenance Association.
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