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MINUTES OF WORK SESSION
DESCHUTES COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
MONDAY, APRIL 19, 2010
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Present were Commissioners Dennis R. Luke, Alan Unger and Tammy Baney.
Also present were Dave Kanner, County Administrator; Erik Kropp, Deputy
County Administrator; Dave Inbody, Assistant to the Commissioners; David
Givans, Internal Auditor; Marty Wynne, Finance; Susan Ross and Teresa Rozic,
Property & Facilities; and Hillary Borrud of The Bulletin.
Chair Luke opened the meeting at 1:30 p.m.
1. North County Campus Financing & Feasibility.
Dave Kanner explained that the State pays $1.42 per square foot for leased
space at four different locations, and the leases expire next year. Central
Oregon Intergovernmental Council is also leasing at this time. Both agencies
are willing to work with the County on a new location to consolidate their
services. The building would be need to be about 40,000 square foot, with
room for future expansion.
Therefore, if something is to be done in conjunction with the State in regard to a
new facility, this is the time to act. Bond rates are very low and it is, in general,
a good time for this kind of endeavor. It puts local residents to work and will
benefit Redmond. The real question is whether the County can do this.
Commissioner Luke asked about the differences between building new or
buying and remodeling. Commissioner Unger replied that some has to do with
traffic impacts and location. The employees are already affecting the system,
so SDC’s would be the difference.
Commissioner Baney said that some are interested in the Evergreen School site.
Mr. Kanner stated that the City of Redmond might be interested in this location,
in conjunction with a private developer.
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He said that funding has been set aside for a north County campus for some
time, as it was a stated Board goal. (He referred to a handout regarding the
Projects Fund and Cash Flow Projections.) There would be about $1.5 million
available for this project. COIC would also like to occupy the building. With
that lease and those of the State agencies, about $5.25 could be bonded. It
would cost about $8 million, so approximately $1.25 million would need to be
borrowed. (He provided a handout with loan and debt assumptions.)
Commissioner Unger asked if perhaps the State employment agency could be
included along with the Department of Human Services, as they have a
synergistic relationship with State employment.
Mr. Kanner stated that the County needs 15,000 square feet, and an additional
15,000 or more within 20 years, depending on the economy.
As is the case with other buildings the County shares with the State, over time
the State picks up more of the cost, which reduces the debt quickly. Mr.
Kanner said that the information shows clearly that the County can afford to do
this.
Commissioner Luke stated that when 1300 Wall Street and the OSP/911
buildings were built, times were much better. He said that he has a problem
with putting in new buildings in competition with the private sector. The
County will have to find and purchase ground for this purposes before the State
will commit.
Susan Ross said that if a State agency partners with another agency, they no
longer require a full competitive process. Mr. Kanner stated that they do not
have to go out to bid if they are leasing. Commissioner Baney asked if $1.42 a
square foot is too high in the current economy. Ms. Ross said that the State
likes to partner with the County and wants to consolidate their departments, as
does the County. Mr. Kanner suggested that there are some properties that
might work already, based on a previous solicitation, and they could be asked to
provide a formal document.
Commissioner Unger feels there is only one building that is big enough to
accommodate all of this. Otherwise, the County will have to build. Ms. Ross
stated that there are advantages and disadvantages to one or two story buildings,
whether to remodel or build, and so on.
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Mr. Kanner said that his goal is for the County to pay in cash and repay itself
over time. Finance Director Marty Wynne prefers to borrow it all in case
something else comes up that requires cash. He said that something might
come along years from now and the time might be good then to do something
with cash rather than borrowing.
Commissioners Unger and Baney support moving forward. Commissioner
Luke said that he has a problem with competing with the private sector, where
there is a lot of vacant property. He understands, but feels that everyone should
just get by at this time. He feels the money may be needed for operations.
Commissioner Unger stated that it is a positive, adding jobs and infrastructure.
If they are looking at a downtown location, now is the time to do it while there
are adequate choices and the prices are low for labor and materials.
Commissioner Baney said that she wants to proceed with moving forward.
Mr. Kanner stated that they could look at what is out there to satisfy just the
needs of the County, and also look at the larger picture. Also, instead of
borrowing, they could use project development funds. However, the Board had
already considered that for offsetting jail bed expenses.
2. Health Benefits Trust Projection and Recommendations.
Mr. Kanner said that there are an infinite number of scenarios regarding this
projection. (He referred to a PowerPoint presentation at this time.) If charges
are not raised and they have another challenging year like last year for several
years, the negative amount could be bad. A similar year of claims costs is not
likely.
“Scenario D” was discussed at this time. The worst-case scenario is that no
payments change and there are no savings, and claims remain high. Mr. Kanner
said that the average nationwide increase in health costs is about 9% a year.
Mr. Wynne stated that at one time the fund had to be subsidized. It was
determined that it would be budgeted at the average stop loss amount, plus
about 30%. Mr. Kanner said that the plan is not a Cadillac but a Chevy. They
would raise departmental charges by 8%, but that would be partially offset by
PERS. There are a couple of funds where there would be a small increase.
At their first meeting in January, the PERS board changed how to determine the
rate. They limit rate increases in each biennium. There just has to be enough in
reserves to get the County through four years.
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The other element is that raising the health benefits amount does not get it to the
right place.
He would like to use $65 as s the wellness incentive amount. If someone does
not enroll in the health wellness program, it stays there instead of going down to
$50. They will establish health assessment programs, which will push people to
be more responsible with their health.
Mr. Wynne said that Scenario D reflects an 11% increase annually in claims,
and the wellness program and on-site clinic are included. This evaluation
should take place every year, projecting out five years.
If the employee increase were raised 8.3%, it would be on line with other
agencies. (Mr. Kanner presented a comparison study of what other
jurisdictions are paying.) Discussion occurred about what percentage the
employees pay and what the deductibles are. There is a variety of programs and
it is hard to compare the different plans.
Mr. Kanner noted that the three-month run-out means you have to have enough
to cover three months. More will be presented tomorrow at the EBAC meeting.
3. Audit Committee Appointments.
David Givans reviewed the recommendations. One position is required, and
two others would be optional. The Commissioners like the idea of having all
three on board. (Chris Earnest, Jean Pedelty and Jennifer Welander).
UNGER: Move that all three be appointed.
LUKE: Second.
VOTE: UNGER: Yes.
LUKE: Chair votes yes.
4. Update of Commissioners’ Meetings and Schedules.
Commissioner Unger said he is working with COIC regarding transportation
issues. The latest proposal is a partnership with COIC and Redmond to
establish a maintenance facility for Cascade East Transit and the City. This
would consolidate operations.