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MINUTES OF WORK SESSION
DESCHUTES COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
WEDNESDAY, JUNE 2, 2010
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DeArmond Room
Present were Commissioners Dennis R. Luke and Alan Unger, and by conference
call later in the meeting, Commissioner Tammy Baney; Dave Kanner, County
Administrator; Joe Stutler, County Forester; Erik Kropp, Deputy County
Administrator; Mark Pilliod, County Counsel, and approximately 25 other citizens.
No representatives of the media attended.
Chair Luke opened the meeting at 1:30 p.m.
1. Presentation by COCC Capstone Students.
Joe Stutler gave an overview of the Forest Resource Technology Capstone
project, now in its fifth year. Instructor Mick Sears, and students from various
Oregon towns, Michael Mann, Jon Galvin, Becky Ryan, Ian Lasslett, Kevin
Johnston, Jamie Helms and Mitch Surplus gave a presentation on the work they
have been doing, and their recommendation on how to address the future of the
county-owned land known as the Hurtley Ranch Property. (A copy of the
presentation is attached for reference.)
After the presentation, Erik Kropp asked whether the smaller diameter juniper
trees have any commercial value. He was advised that these trees can be
chipped and used for biomass fuel, but any profit would be minimal.
In regard to fencing the property, the Board was advised that this would present
various problems, such as driveways, public access and wildlife corridor
obstructions.
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Commissioner Luke asked if any thought was given to removing the juniper
because they tend to use a lot of water. He was told that some of the trees have
been there for over a hundred years, and are an important part of the established
ecosystem of the area.
Mr. Kropp asked who the major stakeholders are in this project. He was
advised that most of the adjacent property owners would like to see the land
stay as it is now. The College has an interest, as it is part of the annual student
project.
Commissioner Unger asked about carbon credits and how that would work. He
was told that the U.S. Forest Service created a baseline and computes how
much carbon certain trees absorb. Carbon credits are not applied to
conservation efforts, but even if this were considered, the amount in the dry
parts of Oregon would be small.
Commissioner Unger asked how they determined how much water is in the
area. He was advised that studies have been done to figure out how much water
is in the different areas.
Commissioner Luke asked about removing noxious weeds and why they did so
by hand. The reply was that hand removal is more efficient than spraying or
using fire, as there are not that many noxious weeds on the site.
Reestablishment of native grasses such as fescue would help. It is almost
impossible to remove cheat grass. A better option would be to minimize its
spread by favoring native vegetation and staying out of the cheat grass areas.
Mr. Kropp asked about fire-resistant buffers. He was told that thinning out the
smaller Western juniper would be a first step. Pruning the lower limbs of the
smaller trees would reduce the ladder fuels. Limiting soil compaction by not
walking or driving on the ground helps with water retention. Commissioner
Unger feels that the normal process of snowfall, freezing, and so on helps to
keep the soil from becoming compacted. The students advised that in some
areas the soil is not that deep, but averages from 16 to 60 inches. There is also
about 200 million cubic feet of cinders.
Commissioner Luke asked what good it does to clean up this property when it is
surrounded by properties that have had little or no treatment. He was told that it
would at least create somewhat of a firebreak.
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Joe Stutler asked about the juniper to be removed, and why a specific size
would be subject to removal. The answer was that there are not a lot of very
small trees, so in order to make nutrients and water available, the larger sizes of
around 13-19 inches would be removed. Defensible space should be at least 30
feet.
Citizen George Chesley asked if they will use thirty feet for a buffer. The
students replied that most of the homes in the area have landscaped yards, and
therefore have eliminated much of the threat of wildfire.
Ed Carollo, who lives off Hurtley Ranch Road, asked who the 14 property
owners are who were contacted regarding the biomass project. He was advised
that his wife was contacted by phone. He wondered why a dump was being
built on the property. Mr. Stutler explained that it was thought to be a good
idea to have a biomass location. It involves only vegetation, not household
trash, appliances, or other materials.
Citizen Dave Highbarger said that there are large junipers along the property
line. He wondered which trees would be removed. He was advised that the
next student group will develop a plan for the future of the site.
Joe Stutler stated that the County’s Fremont Canyon property was subject to a
multi-year plan for its future. The same is being done with this property.
Commissioner Baney joined the meeting at this time via conference call.
2. COCC Request regarding Reversionary Interest on County-Donated Land.
Central Oregon Community College representatives Matthew McCoy and
Charlie Miller, and COCC attorney Miles Conway, came before the Board. Mr.
McCoy said that this issue had been brought up previously. The County offered
ten acres on Awbrey Butte to COCC many years ago, but it was given with a
restriction that it be used only for specific college purposes. Enrollment has
nearly doubled recently, and more room is needed for additional buildings.
Commissioner Luke said that the County property belongs to all of the citizens.
He would be in favor of donating the property for public purposes.
Commissioner Baney stated that many conversations are taking place about a
four-year college rather than just a community college. She wondered if this
would restrict future opportunities. She would also like to see services offered
to students on the site.
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Mr. McCoy said they have contracted with both the County and St. Charles
Medical Center, and now have a dental clinic on site. They hope to break
ground for a health services building in the near future, which would provide
both student training and a location to receive health treatments.
Commissioner Baney stated that opportunities to students in the area and
bringing in more students should be a priority. She wants it to be profitable, but
wants to be sure that there is room for expansion and new ideas. She wondered
if something should be carved out specifically for this.
Dave Kanner reminded the Board that the college already owns the property
outright. There is no reversionary interest. The wording on the deed is a cloud
on the title. Mr. McCoy planned a long time ago for the arrival of a university
partner on the campus.
UNGER: Move approval of issuing a new deed.
BANEY: Second.
VOTE: BANEY: Yes.
UNGER: Yes.
LUKE: Chair votes yes.
3. Update of Commissioners’ Meetings and Schedules.
None were discussed.
4. Consent Agenda and Other Items.
BANEY: Move approval of the Consent Agenda.
UNGER: Second.
VOTE: BANEY: Yes.
UNGER: Yes.
LUKE: Chair votes yes.
CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS:
Approval of County Administrator’s Signature of Document No. 2010-357,
a Right of Entry on County-owned Land for a U.S. Department of
Agriculture Data Collection Project