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MINUTES OF WORK SESSION
DESCHUTES COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 28, 2009
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Present were Commissioners Tammy Baney, Dennis R. Luke and Alan Unger.
Also present were Dave Kanner, County Administrator; Tom Blust, Road
Department; Tom Anderson, Teri Payne, Kristen Maze, Peter Russell and Peter
Gutowsky, Community Development; Erik Kropp, Deputy County Administrator;
Planning Commissioners Brenda Pace, Christen Brown and Keith Cyrus; Laurie
Craghead, Legal Counsel Hillary Borrud of The Bulletin and approximately a
dozen other citizens.
The meeting was brought to order at 1:55 p.m., following an executive session.
1. Update on Foster Road – Acceptance for County Maintenance.
Tom Blust gave an overview of the history of the moratorium on the County
taking over the maintenance of roads. The local improvement district was put
in place after the moratorium was established, and members of the Special Road
District were aware of this.
They have come to the Board to seek maintenance after learning that the forest
funding was increased and the State put into place an additional gasoline tax.
However, the forest funding is being reduced and the County will not get much
from the gas tax increase.
He said that about 70% of the traffic through the development is from the
development. Part of Foster Road is not improved and generally impassible
much of the year. The gravel portion is maintained by the Deschutes
Recreation Homesites Unit #6 Special Road District. Most of the access roads
are County-maintained.
Mr. Blust said that the Beaver Special Road District maintained the road prior
to and after its improvement.
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Robert Dryden, past president of the District, said they went into negotiations
with Oregon Water Wonderland #2, regarding a project that benefited all of
Oregon Water Wonderland, which made all of their lots buildable. His group
could have demanded funding for part of the road paving. It comes back to
before that land was provided to Oregon Water Wonderland, the County took
over the right of way from the Forest Service. There are four properties on that
road with access. Foster Road does not have many driveways on it, so should
be brought up as a collector or arterial. It took a long time to get to the process
to that point, at which time other local improvement districts were in the works
and were allowed to go into the system. There has been an extension of the
forest funding, and some of the local improvement districts did not happen after
all, so the County did not have to take them all in.
Mr. Blust said that most of Foster Road goes through BLM land. The USFS
and BLM do not have public road authority. Typically, rather than doing
easements for access, they prefer to grant it to a public entity. The County
accepted those rights of way.
Commissioner Unger asked if collectors and arterials are accepted. Mr. Blust
said the first resolution did not allow any to come in to the County. The most
recent version left this at the discretion of the Board. Foster Road is classified
as a collector on the transportation system plan. The thought was that as funds
allow, it would be improved.
Commissioner Unger said a collector is classified as a road that does just that.
Mr. Blust said it is serving a large area, but based on traffic counts at this point,
it serves primarily local needs and not at the collector level.
Mr. Dryden asked when the count was done. He said someone was there to do
it when most of the part-time residents were gone for the season. He counted it
five years ago and the count was higher.
Commissioner Luke said the road was paved in 2008 and the road district
agreed to keep maintaining it. He asked what has changed since.
Charlie Jones, current president of the District, said they are looking for a
change that would validate the use. They have a relatively limited budget, but
would like to further improve the condition of the roads there. Drainage and
upkeep is a constant problem. The other change is that they built it to County
standards.
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Bruce Standolf added that one big expense is snowplowing, which takes at least
a third of the budget, often more.
Mr. Dryden asked about the first resolution. The latest one talks about adequate
funding; about 18 miles were to come in and it ended up being less than two
miles, so that should make it possible to take in Foster Road.
Commissioner Unger said they have to put funds into capital improvements but
not necessarily maintenance, as there is some funding available for a few years;
however, the problem is not going to go away.
Chair Baney stated that this is a unique situation, which is why they are here at
this time. Mr. Blust said this is the only LID that had been started but was not
completed when the moratorium was put into place.
Commissioner Unger said there are reasons why this should be accepted, as a
collector or arterial. These roads need to be maintained for fire, law
enforcement and other reasons, as well as for school buses and local traffic.
Mr. Jones stated that the schools would not send buses until it was improved.
Chair Baney asked if the Road Department feels this is beneficial, and if there
are concessions that can be made. Mr. Blust said that a new paved road has low
maintenance costs for about five years. The main cost the first few years is
plowing snow. Mr. Dryden stated that not much maintenance would be
required for eight to ten years, and there should be funding by that time.
Mr. Blust explained that whoever does the maintenance, it would be low cost
for at least five years with the road paved. If funding issues have been resolved,
the County could take this over, but that is not known at this time.
Commissioner Luke asked if the road stopped at the subdivision, should
maintenance be provided. There is about 30% of traffic that comes from other
places. Commissioner Unger stated that he would like to work with the road
districts to figure out how to handle these situations in the future. Perhaps
traffic counts can be done to help develop a policy as to how much assistance
should be given. Chair Baney said that the existing roads are not being handled
now, and it will not get better.
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Commissioner Luke stated that ODOT was not going to do any new projects for
two years until the gas tax increase came about. The County is already talking
about which roads to let go back to gravel. There are options. There can be
shared maintenance and plowing to save money. Some work can be contracted
out. Other options should be explored.
Chair Baney asked if the District could go to its membership and talk about
how this responsibility can be shared. Commissioner Luke observed that there
are other road districts that complain about pass-through traffic.
Chair Baney asked about similar situations. Mr. Blust said that Lazy River
Drive was similar, but this one is called out as a collector. Chair Baney asked if
there are other collectors that are not being maintained. Mr. Blust said that
there are a few in the area that might fit this description.
Mr. Dryden said they would discuss it further and are okay with this situation as
long as they can keep talking with the County and come to some kind of
beneficial resolution.
At this time, recording equipment was put into place to audio record this next part
of the meeting.
2. Comprehensive Plan Update.
Teri Payne showed the board displayed at the home show regarding destination
resorts. Ms. Lelack said they also talked about generating power through the
use of wind, which got a lot of public interest. Approximately 70 to 100
attendees at the home show took the time to give a “vote” on these issues.
Other outreach was a community meeting in Terrebonne. Kristen Maze said 65
people turned out, mostly from inside the community. Four stations were put in
place, for land use, boundaries, transportation and other ideas. Several options
and questionnaires were presented and the public indicated their preferences.
Overwhelmingly the people wanted little or no change there.
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Another community meeting was held in Tumalo, with about 20 attendees.
They were interested in establishing a sewer district, to enhance property values
and to allow more and better commercial areas. Most people were those who
live outside of the town area but identify with the town. Mr. Lelack said the
sewer district would be within the rural community boundary.
Ms. Maze said that the people seemed to appreciate the event. One more is
scheduled for Deschutes Junction on October 29. Mr. Gutowsky said there was
a mix of expertise at these meetings and he felt his department was able to
provide a lot of answers.
Ms. Maze stated that they will put together a draft community plan for each of
the areas, and that process should bring up any issues that are not yet apparent.
Both Terrebonne and Tumalo have fairly active community groups.
Ms. Payne said another meeting was held in Brothers, with 23 people attending
from the area. They started with what was heard last week, what was
incorporated and what was not. The major issues are agricultural lands; the
large acreages that they are required to have are too unmanageable, with
interspersed public lands and public trespass, and conflicts with wildlife
agencies. A new inventory was given regarding wildlife plans from the public
agencies, along with new recommendations. There was a lot of talk about
keeping a balance.
This would not change the big game habitat, but will affect the bird sites per
ESEE. There is a section that would look at the Goal 5 inventory. Peter
Gutowsky added that a committee would be convened to work on these specific
issues.
Commissioner Luke said that State laws about private land impose restrictions
that people will not accept. He asked how this can be addressed. Ms. Payne
said that they do not take this lightly and there is discretion.
Under Measure 49, government entities could be subject to the just
compensation provision. Mr. Lelack said these decisions do have an impact.
The review period is to hear all of the concerns.
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Climate change and piping canals were also discussed. Ms. Maze asked
whether to include action or just leave it at goals. They have heard from the
Farm Bureau, Land Watch and others. Most liked the concept, but felt it was
too big and cumbersome. The Farm Bureau had some information regarding
farm uses. They would like to see the wildlife section removed completely,
since there is plenty of public land available. Land Watch felt the action items
were not complete. They are looking for funding sources. At this point, they
are taking in all this information and tracking it.
The Planning Commission expressed concern over the interagency report. They
have considered implementing this before, and asked that it now be included.
They wan to try to find a balance.
They offered to create a matrix showing goals, policies and actions. They have
heard that it is too lengthy, and just should include basic goals. They are
incorporating what DLCD requires as well.
Commissioner Luke said that it should be general, giving guidance and
guidelines. The Planning Commission expressed that they do not think
revisions will be easy enough and want more outside of the plan. Ms. Craghead
said that there should not be a loss of actions in the comprehensive plan or
ESEEs that might be required.
Peter Gutowsky stated that the detail plan is complicated, but was reduced
down to 90 pages. The scorecard will allow a manageable document that will
allow modifications or changes. The source documents are also included, as
most did not come to them in any other way. This will help prove certain
things.
Mr. Lelack said that there are a lot of action items, and there is a tendency to
make it too long.
Commissioner Unger asked where does it land when the population information
is considered. Ms. Maze said that Oregon land use is supposed to discourage
growth outside of the cities. Commissioner Unger noted that balance is a key
issue. There will be growth.
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Ms. Payne replied that they may not be allowed to have any more than that.
Commissioner Luke said that if the past rate of growth had continued, there
would not be much left in the rural areas in the future. Commissioner Unger
stated that they should listen to those living in the country, as perhaps things
can change so that family farms can be supported.
Peter Gutowsky noted that the plan is aspirational in that way. They want
people to think big, and consider the next twenty years. There is a piece on the
‘big look’. They have to work with the legislature on the ‘big look’ to achieve
balance. Ms. Payne said that if funding becomes available, agricultural lands
could be examined.
The Board indicated that they would like to see the public provide input and
then the issues narrowed.
Planning Commission:
Keith Cyrus, Chair of the Planning Commission, said they are not yet there as a
quorum, but have their opinions. He personally takes this undertaking very
seriously, as they have lived a long time with the original. It will be hard to
stick with the current timeline, if there is thorough review. There might even
need to be Saturday sessions. They are having trouble getting direction. They
will deal with the less controversial issues first. Fish & Wildlife’s interagency
report mandates some things be included that are contradictory to other
sections. With 80% of land public, those agencies should take care of their own
back yards before pressuring private property owners.
He said he has a feeling that the report should not dictate what private
landowners can or cannot do. Perhaps they can compensate or buy properties
for their purposes. No one wants to rubber stamp the plan unless it is fully
understood.
He presented a copy of a letter from Richard Kylce.
Susan Quatre would like to hear all of the public comment first, and then handle
the document line by line. She wants to see things go easier and mean
something to people. A lot of new residents need to know the history and
background. She knows there have to be action items to give direction. There
also have to be links between where you come from and where you want to go,
how to get there and how often this should be reevaluated.
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Chair Baney asked about handling the documents as action items.
Ms. Quatre said she would like to see columns with the action items that can be
analyzed carefully. Public input should come first, and then they can grind
through the document.
Mr. Cyrus said the last meeting was a hearing, and there was public there,
which did not allow enough time for much analysis.
Christen Brown said he is looking for a complete replacement of what is on the
books now. All they want is some guiding action. If there are too many pieces,
it becomes a free for all, as they can find many contradictions. For instance,
regarding farm stands – some state agencies want it in, others say no. There
needs to be generic language, and supporting or action items are a problem.
Reviewing and prioritizing is a huge problem. This should not be a part of the
document. They cannot have the comp plan be everything to everybody and
make them all feel good. It needs to be more general. They are looking to
Commissioners to know how this should be pursued.
Commissioner Luke said that having public hearings on the actions items could
produce a mix. The question of how to do things will split people up. It can get
too complicated.
Ms. Maze stated that the document is too large and cumbersome. There need to
be supporting documents on the side and not part of the document.
Chair Baney noted that action items can be used against it also. They are
depending on the Planners’ expertise. Then there is zoning to consider.
Commissioner Luke said that the Board was presented with a timeline, but he
has no problem if it takes longer.
3. Discussion of Tumalo Irrigation District’s Appeal of the Historic
Landmarks Decision regarding Fencing and Landscaping at Shevlin Park
Dam.
Kristen Maze said there is considerable history with this appeal, being
considered since 2005. She gave an overview of the item. An exception was
given regarding fencing, which brought it back to the Historic Landmarks
Commission.
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An appeal was made in 2007, but the applicant asked that it be put on hold so
the landscape plan could be reevaluated. In December 2008, the Historic
Landmarks Commission (HLC) held another hearing. The plan was then
denied again. Tumalo Irrigation District wants to reactivate the plan.
There are a lot of issues. The fence was put in after the work was done for
safety reasons, and was required. The HLC said it was put up before
permission was granted. Laurie Craghead said that it was supposed to be
reviewed by the HLC before installation.
Commissioner Unger asked if the owner can choose to be off the landmarks list.
Ms. Craghead said that the area where the fence is has no jurisdiction by the
HLC to deny the plan. The appeal for the Board is whether they have
jurisdiction to deny the plan. Only the headgate is a historic site. The new
headgate was approved and a plaque put up acknowledging that an old one was
there in the past. It is unreasonable to deny this because there is nothing
historical to consider now.
Commissioner Luke asked who legal counsel is for HLC. Ms. Craghead said
they can speak as a Commission but cannot file an appeal. Only an adjacent
property owner could file an appeal. The HLC could express an opinion but
have no right to appeal. It is unknown whether there is an opponent at this
time; that could come up at the time of the hearing.
The Parks District owns the land that the fence is on; Tumalo Irrigation District
has an easement through it. In Goal 5, it clearly calls out the headgate but not
the surrounding area.
Commissioner Luke stated that it appears that negotiations will not go
anywhere.
Ms. Craghead said in 2005 they did not have legal counsel and went in with a
fencing plan that was denied. They appealed that. In the meantime, they
submitted a plan for what they are going to do with the fish ladder and
something different with the headgate. That portion was approved but not the
fencing or landscape plan. Only the landscaping plan, with the fence, is coming
before the Board. This was the original appeal.
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Commissioner Luke asked why it went to the HLC in the first place. Ms.
Craghead said the fence was an addition for safety reasons. HLC went beyond
its authority, however. The staff person at the time was on the HLC and
thought they had authority to do so.
The request would be to approve the landscaping and fencing plan since there
was no authority of the HLC to deny it, and if there was, it was unreasonable to
do so. There are property owners who oppose the fencing but may not have
standing. They may be basing their opposition solely on the HLC’s opinion.
Commissioner Unger said that the HLC needs to be clear on their scope and
where they are going. They can be difficult to work with. They should be
supported, but their mission needs to be clear.
Ms. Craghead said she will work with the City’s attorney to see if a meeting can
be coordinated to perhaps provide some training to the HLC members.
4. Other Items.
Mr. Kanner said that a request has been made to approve an application for a
competitive grant for intensive drug treatment. Ken Hales found it would take a
lot of up front funding to apply and they may not even get it. However, Judge
Brady really wants to pursue it. Ernie Mazorol, the Court Administrator, and
Judge Sullivan asked Mr. hales to get the Board to agree not to apply for the
grant. The grant would provide about half of the daily cost of treatment.
LUKE: Move that if the Courts want to pursue the grant, that the Courts
agree to provide funds required to cover any shortages that might
arise as a result of obtaining the grant.
UNGER: Second.
VOTE: LUKE: Yes.
UNGER: Yes.
BANEY: Chair votes yes.
Being no further items addressed, the meeting adjourned at 5:15 p.m.